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This was posted on the schools website, just thought I'd pass it along. Capac Community Information Meeting Sponsored by: Capac Police Department Capac Community Schools Community Mental Health Date: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 Time: 6:30 p.m.- 7:30 p.m. Where: Capac High School Activity Area Presenters: Capac Police Administrative Assistant Sharon Revitzer - Health Update on Chief Hawks St. Clair County Sheriff Dan Lane - Review of the Incident Capac Schools Superintendent Jerry Jennex - Why Lock Down the Schools? St. Clair County Prosecutor Mike Wendling - What Will Happen Next in the Legal Process? CPD Officer Roger Bartram - What Happens If We Need to Call the Capac Police? St. Clair County Community Mental Health Mike McCartan - Why Am I Feeling This Way? This meeting is for all people of the Community of Capac. Parental Discretion is advised for children, Graphic information may be shared.
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Thanks for sharing..Havent seen it anywhere else..
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One of my kids brought home a notice about it and it is posted on the counter at the gas station in town. Other than that, I don't know if it is posted anywhere else.
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Was a good meeting glad I went. Wish there was better news about the Chief, but hopefully power of prayer will work it's magic on him. Was very nice to be able to extend gratitude to the men and women that helped him on that terrible day. From what they said, if it wasn't for the help of individuals coming to his aide, he may not be alive today. Also got the information about Don Burke, and why he entered the hospital. Sheriff Dan Lane said that he sufered at Heart Attack on the way to the jail, and they did a triple by-pass on him.(just my opinion, but they should've drove a little slower to the hospital!) In a question asked by someone in the crowd was if there was any aide to help Don Burkes wife in fixing her house from damage, no was the answer, which I guess is understandable. But a neighbor did stand up and ask everyone to pray for her also. Guess I never thought of it that way, but how terrible to be at work and have the police call and tell you this is going on, as a wife couldn't even imagine the horror! The neighbor did say she has moved out of the community.
Mr. Jennex did a good job talking about the lockdown, and giving a timeline of when the school found out. All in all the school did a good job in the lockdown, for the Middle school it was at an aweful time, they had just dismissed for the day, and some buses were already rounding the corner heading for the highschool and elementary school. For my question I asked why in the world would they leave the bus garage doors open, with scared kids watching all going on. He said that was a ventalation issue, and has been discussed. I do want to say, I think we have a great principal in Mr.Drake heard that he did everything in his power to get kids to safety!! He is one heck of a principal!
I do hope the town does something a little more for those individuals that helped the chief that day, and for the towtruck driver that risked his life to help the officers out. Maybe something at the kick off of Capac Days, something.
I do hope the people of Capac forget about all the petty issues in town, and remember that this is a great town to raise kids, and if everyone works together it can become an even better communtity.
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shame on all those who feel Mr. Burk isnt as worthy of prayer as the chief. From what's been said by his neighbors the chief would never have been in such a predicament if he had stopped harrassing the man. when you trap an individual something is bound to give. The chief has been known for his Duke Hazzard style police tactics. community policing is not in his vocabulary. giving one man power over many can occasionally turn out bad and this instance is proof of such. Tow truck driver? he was only there to get an $80 kickback from the police dept. the vehicle did not need or deserve to be towed it was on its owners property and should have been left there when the man was arrested. note no one came out shooting until the tow truck arrived? hmm has to make you wonder. i speak from exsperience. after the $80 cash was handed over to mike's towin the car would have stayed but no money and then towed away. where is the justice for the burk family and all they have suffered at the hands of the chief. people are often blinded by a badge as has been the case in capac for years. the chief has had numerous reprimands in his file for misconduict yet these are ignored by the town and media. the chief questioned a child at the high school whom who he had no business questioning about a personal matter (not capac police business)(not school affiliated) and yet this child's parents have yet to press charges against him. why? he violated her rights and thier rights and overstepped his boundaries as a village officer. although mr. burk made a very bad judgement, the chief's judgement has been called into question many times prior to this shooting. consider this the straw that broke the camel's back and walk for a minute in mr. burk's life. he obviously felt threatened in some way. i pray for mr. burk and his family. at least now they can be assured there wont be any more harrassment from the local police dept. Karma works in mysterious ways folks and in my opinion the chief has been smacking fate in the face a long time and life finally shot back.
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You need to get a grip on reaility or something close to that in nature!!! I feel bad for what the wife of Mr Burke is going through. But at a time like this to come out and bash the Chief when he is down like that you are the one who needs help!!! How would you like if you were in the chiefs position right now and some idiots are out there putting you down for doing your job!!! and might I add a Thank less job at that!!! These men and women who chooes to put them seleves on the line day in and day out for the better good of thier communities get nothing but craped on all day long by dumb asses like your self. but let some thing happen to you and who is the first person you will call????? as for the tow on the car lets put it to you this way the man did not stop when signaled by the chief and also was drining in a reckless manner. also the guy took off and did not deal with the chief when he should have and took his ticket and moved on he choese to leave and go into his house the chief has the right to tow the veichale at that time and chooes to do so. What Mr Burke did is not tolleriable and is cowerdly. I hope he does not ever see the light of day Thats all i have to say i have wasted enough time on a looser like your self
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"victim of the chief Gowen, MI " WOW YOUR STATEMENTS ON HERE ARE UNBELIVEABLE!! I HOPE THIS GUY GETS EVERYTHING HE DESERVES AND MORE! CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE I WASTED MY TIME READING YOUR PIECE OF CRAP POST! WHAT A JOKE, CHIEF HAWKS HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREAT WITH THE KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. NO MATTER IF HE WAS HARRASSED, YOU DON'T GO AROUND SHOOTING PEOPLE.. WAKE UP. PRAYERS TO CHIEF HAWKS, AND I WILL PRAY FOR DON BURKE, PRAY THAT HE GETS LIFE IN PRISON, JUST TOO BAD THERE IS NO DEATH PENALTY IN MICHIGAN!
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victim of the chief wrote: shame on all those who feel Mr. Burk isnt as worthy of prayer as the chief. From what's been said by his neighbors the chief would never have been in such a predicament if he had stopped harrassing the man. when you trap an individual something is bound to give. The chief has been known for his Duke Hazzard style police tactics. community policing is not in his vocabulary. giving one man power over many can occasionally turn out bad and this instance is proof of such. Tow truck driver? he was only there to get an $80 kickback from the police dept. the vehicle did not need or deserve to be towed it was on its owners property and should have been left there when the man was arrested. note no one came out shooting until the tow truck arrived? hmm has to make you wonder. i speak from exsperience. after the $80 cash was handed over to mike's towin the car would have stayed but no money and then towed away. where is the justice for the burk family and all they have suffered at the hands of the chief. people are often blinded by a badge as has been the case in capac for years. the chief has had numerous reprimands in his file for misconduict yet these are ignored by the town and media. the chief questioned a child at the high school whom who he had no business questioning about a personal matter (not capac police business)(not school affiliated) and yet this child's parents have yet to press charges against him. why? he violated her rights and thier rights and overstepped his boundaries as a village officer. although mr. burk made a very bad judgement, the chief's judgement has been called into question many times prior to this shooting. consider this the straw that broke the camel's back and walk for a minute in mr. burk's life. he obviously felt threatened in some way. i pray for mr. burk and his family. at least now they can be assured there wont be any more harrassment from the local police dept. Karma works in mysterious ways folks and in my opinion the chief has been smacking fate in the face a long time and life finally shot back. How was Burke harrassed? he was reckless driving when the kids were about to get out of school. Is there a tox report yet? What if he had run over your child, would you call that harrassment?
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getalife wrote: You need to get a grip on reaility or something close to that in nature!!! I feel bad for what the wife of Mr Burke is going through. But at a time like this to come out and bash the Chief when he is down like that you are the one who needs help!!! How would you like if you were in the chiefs position right now and some idiots are out there putting you down for doing your job!!! and might I add a Thank less job at that!!! These men and women who chooes to put them seleves on the line day in and day out for the better good of thier communities get nothing but craped on all day long by dumb asses like your self. but let some thing happen to you and who is the first person you will call????? as for the tow on the car lets put it to you this way the man did not stop when signaled by the chief and also was drining in a reckless manner. also the guy took off and did not deal with the chief when he should have and took his ticket and moved on he choese to leave and go into his house the chief has the right to tow the veichale at that time and chooes to do so. What Mr Burke did is not tolleriable and is cowerdly. I hope he does not ever see the light of day Thats all i have to say i have wasted enough time on a looser like your self really so its okay to bash burke and his family for things no one really knows anything about. its okay to bash burk while he is down? the chief is human like everyone else and people keep putting the man on a pedestal. in effect what i said were bad choices have been made by both individuals. working hard for the better good of the community are we talking about the same chief? you've got to be kidding. the last person id call is chief hawks. the car bewing towed was just another dick chief move to piss the guy off. you speak as though you were a witness to the whole thing! where exactly on lthe street were you during the reckless driving incident. was the man even driving reckless? no one will ever know the truth because the chief makes up his own law and rules and rarely tells the truth. you must really not know the man professionally speaking. he puts on a good front though im glad you have also bought into his charade. I also pray the chief comes home and can live out the rest of his days retired. i pray for the burks they need it more than ever the hell that man must have been through recently to think his only way out was to shoot. think about it. this wasnt their first encounter. to resort to namecalling just shows your intelligence in the matter. you should spend more time reading and less time listening to gossip.
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Hammy wrote: <quoted text> How was Burke harrassed? he was reckless driving when the kids were about to get out of school. Is there a tox report yet? What if he had run over your child, would you call that harrassment? this was not burks first and only encounter with the chief.
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Can you tell us more about Burkes history with the Capac police?
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capacMOMof2 wrote: "victim of the chief Gowen, MI " WOW YOUR STATEMENTS ON HERE ARE UNBELIVEABLE!! I HOPE THIS GUY GETS EVERYTHING HE DESERVES AND MORE! CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE I WASTED MY TIME READING YOUR PIECE OF CRAP POST! WHAT A JOKE, CHIEF HAWKS HAS ALWAYS BEEN GREAT WITH THE KIDS IN OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT. NO MATTER IF HE WAS HARRASSED, YOU DON'T GO AROUND SHOOTING PEOPLE.. WAKE UP. PRAYERS TO CHIEF HAWKS, AND I WILL PRAY FOR DON BURKE, PRAY THAT HE GETS LIFE IN PRISON, JUST TOO BAD THERE IS NO DEATH PENALTY IN MICHIGAN! been great with the kids in shcool? talk a few more high school kids. they talk more than you know about things the chief would be very surprised to hear. The man entered the high school to question a child about a personal incident. a. he had no legal right while in/out of uniform to question the child without her parents present b. he was on village time doing private investigative work that should have been handled by st. clair co as you were saying he's always good to the kids. mr. burk will also receive justice there is no doubt about that. i guess you could say justice has been served in both ends.
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interested wrote: <quoted text> been great with the kids in shcool? talk a few more high school kids. they talk more than you know about things the chief would be very surprised to hear. The man entered the high school to question a child about a personal incident. a. he had no legal right while in/out of uniform to question the child without her parents present b. he was on village time doing private investigative work that should have been handled by st. clair co as you were saying he's always good to the kids. mr. burk will also receive justice there is no doubt about that. i guess you could say justice has been served in both ends. witnessess say he almost hit another car and that is why police were called. please be specific, nobody knows what you are talking about. it is not harrassing someone for the cops to respond to a call of someone driving reckless, it is their job. do you not understand the difference?
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did i insult your thoughts or your musings? must have touched a soft spot. you can consider yourself better educated for having read my thoughts. not everything is always as it appears to be. one should consider the other side of the story. no, shooting or violence is nevver the answer, however the chief often reverts to unlawful methods to prove HIS point which on occassion is not alwys correct. he is highly unprofessional two weeks ago anyone of a number of people in the justice system of st. clair county would have told you, from deputies,m to prosecutors to attorneys. burk has said he `couldnt drive thru town without getting pulled over for something`. he is not the only person to have reported this. his correct choice would have been to get a restraining order against the chief like many, MANY other people in the community have done. may no bad choice ever befall your children in their future. and yeas i am glad there is no death penalty in michigan some day you may be glad too.
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Want to know wrote: Can you tell us more about Burkes history with the Capac police? burk has said in the past that he couldnt drive thru town without getting pulled over. not to trust the news completely but, the news quoted this not being the chiefs first encounter with this man and therefore called for backup. mnay other peopple have had this same problem with the chief in the past. the correct response is to file a restraining order with st. clair co. many have done this and succeeded. chooting is obviously never the correct response. i just think that the chief has often in his own right brought upon anger. burk was in no right justified however the chief has also been unjustified in many of his professional choices.
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Huh wrote: <quoted text> witnessess say he almost hit another car and that is why police were called. please be specific, nobody knows what you are talking about. it is not harrassing someone for the cops to respond to a call of someone driving reckless, it is their job. do you not understand the difference? i completely understand the difference. pulling someone over for reckless driving i understand. towing someones car just to be a bully and put $80 into the tow truck drivers hands i do not. this was completely unneccessary. the chief alwsys calls the same tow company and the guy either gets $80 cash when he gets there or tows the car. in every instanc e ive ever been privy to the car could legally have been left at its residence or driven by another party. however the chief does not allow that to happen until the tow driver is there and drops his lift. why is that? an arrested individual can ask until their blue in the face and the chief will deny the request. then have a change of heart only AFTER he calls the tow driver and you pay for his time. its rude. makes one wonder if mr burk hadnt been thru this same routine before. from what i can see mr burk made a very very bad decision but i have to wonder what led up to that choice and what would push him that far? knowing how the chief operates professionally i have few ideas.
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interested wrote: <quoted text> i completely understand the difference. pulling someone over for reckless driving i understand. towing someones car just to be a bully and put $80 into the tow truck drivers hands i do not. this was completely unneccessary. the chief alwsys calls the same tow company and the guy either gets $80 cash when he gets there or tows the car. in every instanc e ive ever been privy to the car could legally have been left at its residence or driven by another party. however the chief does not allow that to happen until the tow driver is there and drops his lift. why is that? an arrested individual can ask until their blue in the face and the chief will deny the request. then have a change of heart only AFTER he calls the tow driver and you pay for his time. its rude. makes one wonder if mr burk hadnt been thru this same routine before. from what i can see mr burk made a very very bad decision but i have to wonder what led up to that choice and what would push him that far? knowing how the chief operates professionally i have few ideas. so you are saying there are people in Capac with restraining orders against the police chief? you have so much experience with cars being towed, are you someone the chief has busted? hard to understand your motivation for these posts considering the chief is fighting for his life after responding to a call that a driver almost hit another car and the schools were about to be let out. can you prove any of your allegations or are you just a friend of Burkes? or are you his defense attorney, hope not considering your spelling errors.
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What wrote: <quoted text> so you are saying there are people in Capac with restraining orders against the police chief? you have so much experience with cars being towed, are you someone the chief has busted? hard to understand your motivation for these posts considering the chief is fighting for his life after responding to a call that a driver almost hit another car and the schools were about to be let out. can you prove any of your allegations or are you just a friend of Burkes? or are you his defense attorney, hope not considering your spelling errors. yes, there have been people with restraining orders against the chief of police. busted? no but have had my fair share of conversations and confrontations with the chief in the past. didn't realize i should edit my post but will do a better job in the future so as to appease you. friend of burks? no, i consider his actions unjustified but realize simply that one person can only take so much. and how about your allegations? was there a witness other than the chief? seems burk also felt he was fighting for his life, while else would it end this way.
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i guess i do not believe you when you say people have restraining orders against the chief. can you name someone? how can I verify your info? do you think every person out there who shoots a cop has a reason? you are really defending this guy so if you are not a friend how do you have so much knowledge of why he did it? cops get shot everyday just because they do their job. i mean maybe every cop killer feels they are fighting for their own lives and wish the cops would just leave them alone but so what? are you suggesting the criminals should just be left alone? and yes, i heard someone called the police after this guy left the liquor store and almost hit them.
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giving out the names of individuals on such a forum would not only be unwise but unthoughful on my part. I GUESS, part of the problem is believing what you want to believe. not defending burk. but not defending the chief either. do you really think being a cop in capac is anyhow close to being an officer in say detroit. criminals should have justice within the limits allowed by law. continuous harrassment of an individual is a far cry from routine police procedure. oh, so you HEARD someone did you speak with this individual or is this simply here say. I guess we won't know the evidence being presented by both sides until the trial for mr. burk begins. i simply don't believe the chief should have ever been put on a pedestal and this unfortunate occurrance chould not change that fact. mr. burk will recieve justice upon sentencing no doubt. the chief shall also be back home soon, fear not.
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