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Nerd Rage

Chambersburg, PA

#30840 Aug 11, 2012
Romney Hood wrote:
Congressman Ryan vote to bail out the auto industry, to pass the Medicare package to the tune of $400 billion, and to nationalize education via No Child Left Behind?
Paul Ryan on Bailouts and Government Stimuli -Voted YES on TARP (2008)-Voted YES on Economic Stimulus HR 5140 (2008)-Voted YES on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler.(Dec 2008)-Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending.(Jul 2009)
Paul Ryan on Entitlement Programs -Voted YES on limited prescription drug benefit for Medicare recipients.(Nov 2003)-Voted YES on providing $70 million for Section 8 Housing vouchers.(Jun 2006)-Voted YES on extending unemployment benefits from 39 weeks to 59 weeks.(Oct 2008)-Voted YES on Head Start Act (2007)
Paul Ryan on Education Rep. Ryan went along with the Bush Administration in supporting more federal involvement in education. This is contrary to the traditional Republican position, which included support for abolition of the Department of Education and decreasing federal involvement in education.
-Voted YES on No Child Left Behind Act (2001)
Paul Ryan on Civil Liberties -Voted YES on federalizing rules for driver licenses to hinder terrorists.(Feb 2005)-Voted YES on making the PATRIOT Act permanent.(Dec 2005)-Voted YES on allowing electronic surveillance without a warrant.(Sep 2006)
Paul Ryan on War and Intervention Abroad -Voted YES on authorizing military force in Iraq.(Oct 2002)-Voted YES on emergency $78B for war in Iraq & Afghanistan.(Apr 2003)-Voted YES on declaring Iraq part of War on Terror with no exit date.(Jun 2006)-Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq starting in 90 days.(May 2007)
Congressman Ryan supports the United Nations, the World Trade Organization, federal bailouts, increased federal involvement in education, unconstitutional and undeclared wars, Medicare Part D (a multi trillion dollar unfunded liability), stimulus spending, and foreign aid.
UH OH!
President Obama says Mitt Romney has embraced a budget that could throw hundreds of thousands of children out of Head Start classrooms, eliminate air traffic control services in some places, and “ultimately end Medicare as we know it.”
 Obama’s list of popular programs that would be slashed or even eliminated assumes “these cuts were to be spread out evenly.” But the GOP plan does not make across-the-board cuts, so Obama’s examples are largely speculation and based on an incorrect premise.
 Rep. Paul Ryan, author of the GOP plan, insists his plan makes “dozens of specific assumptions to justify our numbers.” But the fact is details are scarce, and the president is mostly correct when he complains that Republicans “don’t specify exactly the cuts that they would make.”
 Obama says that the Republican budget “breaks our bipartisan agreement and proposes massive new cuts in annual domestic spending.” It’s true that Ryan’s plan calls for smaller cuts in military spending, and deeper cuts in domestic programs, than the bipartisan deal struck last year to allow an increase in the debt limit. But that deal called for automatic cuts only if Congress could not agree on another way to achieve the required amount of deficit reduction, or more.
 Obama also attacked the Republican budget’s plan to give seniors premium-support payments and a choice between traditional Medicare and private plans, beginning in 2023. But the president’s claim that the plan would herd older, sicker patients into traditional Medicare isn’t necessarily true. That’s a matter of debate. Ryan’s plan would require private insurance companies to take all comers, regardless of their condition, and it includes risk-adjustments to give incentive payments to plans that end up covering less healthy individuals.
http://factcheck.org/2012/04/fall-preview-oba...

Another LIE

Since: Jul 12

Portland, Oregon

#30841 Aug 11, 2012
The american voters put Obama in the white house and you did not want that, but who cares? Not the true patriot voters. Your boy flipper is doomed to failure
Nerd Rage

Chambersburg, PA

#30842 Aug 11, 2012
Marisa wrote:
<quoted text>Don't forget Obama thinks we have 57 states.
Here's one you don't hear much about.
After Obama drew the troops out of Iraq, he made the comment about sending the Arab translaters to Afghanistan! They don't speak Arab in Afghanistan!!
The list goes on and on.
Good bye Obama...
A big welcome to President Romney!!
Ya they are all over the place. And my point was that both sides make gaffes yet it seems as if it's only a big deal when it's on the right.
They couldn't wait to jump on Romney. I came looking for common ground and all I've seem to get is a lack common sense or the "gotcha" I win game.
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#30843 Aug 11, 2012
Nerd Rage wrote:
<quoted text>
"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." by Barack Obama --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon
You've listed two. How many do you have left? 10? 15?

Get back to us when there are that many BOOKS full of Obama misstatements.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1/191-...
Romneys Circus

West Mifflin, PA

#30844 Aug 11, 2012
The dominant spin is that Mittens is is caving to the Tea Party and right wing pundits in naming Ryan. But I believe Romney is finally embracing who he really is - one of the insanely self-centered plutocrats just like those billionaires who are writing his campaign and associated PACs the biggest checks. Just look at what we know about Romney's private equity path to personal riches while aggressively avoiding taxes to the greatest extent possible - continuing to use off-shore tax havens while he twice runs for president. The Ryan budget and its implications for everyone not in the 1 percent are what these insanely greedy, can't see the forest of national interest and prosperity for the trees of their own narrow self-interest, oligarch wannabes dream of. Workers cost too much and protecting health and safety does too. Romney has come out of the oligarch-centric closet that running for office in his home state of Massachusetts never allowed him to do. Mittens is finally being honest with the American people about his true colors and priorities - its all about the wealthiest 1 percent looking out for themselves with everyone else deemed to be expendable pawns whose well-being just does not matter.
Ted

Johnstown, PA

#30845 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL! I love it when this dipshit proves my point - he can't comprehend plain English.
Just following your line of argument, danny BOY, that begins with your admittance that Obama is a clown.

BOY, you are a dipshit!

Add 'dipshit' to danny BOY's most notorious characteristics: plagiarist, racist and pathological liar.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#30846 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the incentive - nobody wants to be poor. Nobody.
If you believe there is any more than a small, small fraction of people receiving public assistance who WANT to live on it, then you obviously don't know any poor people.
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Dan the Man
(punk liar)
Carlisle, PA

sez

More of this "Democrats have enslaved blacks" bullshit.

Maybe YOU can explain it:

Exactly how is it that Democrats are enslaving black Americans?

How does that happen in a democratic society?

Can you explain the mechanism for this so-called slavery?

..........

Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40 years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems.

More than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty with little, if any, impact on poverty.

Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicans.

In order to break the Democrats’ stranglehold on the black vote and free black Americans from the Democrat Party’s economic plantation, we must shed the light of truth on the Democrats.

We must demonstrate that the Democrat Party policies of socialism and dependency on government handouts offer the pathway to poverty, while Republican Party principles of hard work, personal responsibility, getting a good education and ownership of homes and small businesses offer the pathway to prosperity.
Romneys Circus

West Mifflin, PA

#30847 Aug 11, 2012
They just lost Florida for good.

Count Paul Von Ryan is the Vampire candidate. He invented Vampire economics. He literally wants to suck the blood out of the middle class, and leave their carcass on the side of the road.

Who do the fundies have to vote for? A mormon and an Ayn Rand (i.e. athiest) devotee?

I'm wondering if they'll even hold Arizona. Lots of Mormons down there, but lots of retirees on medicare too.
Dan the Man

Chambersburg, PA

#30848 Aug 11, 2012
Nerd Rage wrote:
<quoted text>
President Obama says Mitt Romney has embraced a budget that could throw hundreds of thousands of children out of Head Start classrooms, eliminate air traffic control services in some places, and “ultimately end Medicare as we know it.”
&#61607; Obama’s list of popular programs that would be slashed or even eliminated assumes “these cuts were to be spread out evenly.” But the GOP plan does not make across-the-board cuts, so Obama’s examples are largely speculation and based on an incorrect premise.
&#61607; Rep. Paul Ryan, author of the GOP plan, insists his plan makes “dozens of specific assumptions to justify our numbers.” But the fact is details are scarce, and the president is mostly correct when he complains that Republicans “don’t specify exactly the cuts that they would make.”
&#61607; Obama says that the Republican budget “breaks our bipartisan agreement and proposes massive new cuts in annual domestic spending.” It’s true that Ryan’s plan calls for smaller cuts in military spending, and deeper cuts in domestic programs, than the bipartisan deal struck last year to allow an increase in the debt limit. But that deal called for automatic cuts only if Congress could not agree on another way to achieve the required amount of deficit reduction, or more.
&#61607; Obama also attacked the Republican budget’s plan to give seniors premium-support payments and a choice between traditional Medicare and private plans, beginning in 2023. But the president’s claim that the plan would herd older, sicker patients into traditional Medicare isn’t necessarily true. That’s a matter of debate. Ryan’s plan would require private insurance companies to take all comers, regardless of their condition, and it includes risk-adjustments to give incentive payments to plans that end up covering less healthy individuals.
http://factcheck.org/2012/04/fall-preview-oba...
Another LIE
Ummm, Factcheck doesn't call Obama's analysis of the plan a "lie."

You are lying when you make that claim.
Romneys Circus

West Mifflin, PA

#30849 Aug 11, 2012
Due to the connection being made tying the Ryan budget to Romney, it will be much easier to tie the same to the house republicans that are up for re-election. Since they all supported it, they must now all own it. The messaging is going to be loud and clear. The reps can now say goodbye to the moderates, independents, seniors (because AARP is going to push this to all of it's members), and many centrist republicans.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#30850 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the incentive - nobody wants to be poor. Nobody.
If you believe there is any more than a small, small fraction of people receiving public assistance who WANT to live on it, then you obviously don't know any poor people.
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"War on Poverty" and healthcare reform

In 1964, upon Johnson's request, Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1964 and the Economic Opportunity Act, which was in association with the war on poverty.

Johnson set in motion bills and acts,[64] creating programs such as Head Start, food stamps, Work Study, Medicare and Medicaid, which still exist today.

“I’ll have those n**-gers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
- Lyndon B. Johnson

These negros, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they’ve never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness.
- LBJ
Nerd Rage

Chambersburg, PA

#30851 Aug 11, 2012
Romneys Circus wrote:
According to Michelle Malkin in 2009,“[Paul Ryan] gave one of the most hysterical speeches in the rush to pass TARP last fall; voted for the auto bailout; and voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede. Milwaukee blogger Nick Schweitzer wrote:‘He ought to be apologizing for his previous votes, not pretending he was being responsible the entire time, but I don’t see one bit of regret for what he did previously. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to let him get away with it’.”
Congressman Ryan: if you don’t like debt, stop voting for debt.
Are you quoting Michelle Malkin for a specific reason? If you hold one one minute i'll find a quote from Hillary that disputes Obama or Rendell that has something racist in it.
Romneys Circus

West Mifflin, PA

#30852 Aug 11, 2012
So, now, what about Ryan's tax returns? Does he release them, or not? If he does, he puts Romney behind the 8-ball. If he doesn't, that will make a complete republican team hiding something from the public. Oh, what a delicious predicament for them. The Democratic party should waste no time jumping on this topic.

Seeing as Ryan received his dead father's Soclal Security when his family really didn't need it (he says he saved up the checks to pay for college)......he now wants to make sure no one else( like himself) cheat the social security system!
Romneys Circus

West Mifflin, PA

#30853 Aug 11, 2012
We (and Obama) have seen this before: A stumbling candidate losing traction with the general public, chooses a VP candidate that only a wing-nut (emphasis on the nut) could love as candidate. It generates lots of churn and energy on the far right, but the general public is, if anything, stiff armed.

Romney was losing traction with the general public this entire last two months, when he was supposed to be tacking to the center to broaden his appeal. It wasn't working with the general public, and the wingnut base was losing interest too. So he picks someone the wingnut base likes, to get them back, but how does Ryan bring more of the General Public to Romney? I don't see how he does.

Romney's in deep VooDoo. Ryan's a Vampire candidate. He's so evil he can't see his own reflection in the mirror.

Older people should be put off and Christian fundies should be put off. Ryan is a devotee to athiest/nihilist Ayn Rand and Romney is a mormon.

Somehow, someway, the Obama people ought to be able to gain traction from these events.
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#30854 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man
Carlisle, PA

sez

Sure did.

And like the majority of voters this year, I will again.

BTW - you really should listen to the speech.

He did not say what you think he said.

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OBAMA IN 2008 PROMISED HEALTH CARE SHOULD

“NEVER BE PURCHASED WITH TAX INCREASES ON MIDDLE CLASS FAMILIES”

By: Jim Hoft

7/1/2012 05:56 PM

At a campaign stop on October 4, 2008, Barack Obama told supporters that health care should not purchased with a tax increase.

Health care should never be purchased with tax increases on middle class families.”

Via Free Republic:

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/07/01/obama-i ...
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#30855 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the incentive - nobody wants to be poor. Nobody.
If you believe there is any more than a small, small fraction of people receiving public assistance who WANT to live on it, then you obviously don't know any poor people.
..........

..........

"War on Poverty" and healthcare reform

In 1964, upon Johnson's request, Congress passed the Revenue Act of 1964 and the Economic Opportunity Act, which was in association with the war on poverty.

Johnson set in motion bills and acts,[64] creating programs such as Head Start, food stamps, Work Study, Medicare and Medicaid, which still exist today.

“I’ll have those n**-gers voting Democratic for the next 200 years.”
- Lyndon B. Johnson

These negros, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they’ve never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness.
- LBJ
Nerd Rage

Chambersburg, PA

#30856 Aug 11, 2012
Romneys Circus wrote:
According to Michelle Malkin in 2009,“[Paul Ryan] gave one of the most hysterical speeches in the rush to pass TARP last fall; voted for the auto bailout; and voted with the Barney Frank-Nancy Pelosi AIG bonus-bashing stampede. Milwaukee blogger Nick Schweitzer wrote:‘He ought to be apologizing for his previous votes, not pretending he was being responsible the entire time, but I don’t see one bit of regret for what he did previously. And I’ll be damned if I’m going to let him get away with it’.”
Congressman Ryan: if you don’t like debt, stop voting for debt.
Here your go:

The ad uses video of 2008 presidential candidate Clinton campaigning against candidate Obama in Cincinnati ahead of the Ohio primary. Clinton accused Obama of "blatantly false" attacks against her in campaign mailers, which Romney is now using to highlight a recent fact check by the Washington Post calling one of Obama's current ads "misleading, unfair and untrue."
TaxNoMore

Los Angeles, CA

#30857 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man
York Springs, PA

sez

Among thinking voters who are paying attention, Ryan's radical budget proposal (which ends Medicare as we know it, cuts taxes for the rich, increases taxes for the rest of us, and STILL doesn't even balance the budget} is a huge handicap for the ticket.

,,,,,,,,,,

Here Are The New Taxes You're Going To Pay To Pay For Obamacare...

Well, Obamacare is now official, which means that a lot more people in the United States will have health insurance.

And it also means a lot more people will be paying more taxes.

(You didn't think Obamacare was free, did you?)

Here are some of the new taxes you're going to have to pay to pay for Obamacare:

A 3.8% surtax on "investment income" when your adjusted gross income is more than $200,000 ($250,000 for joint-filers).

What is "investment income?" Dividends, interest, rent, capital gains, annuities, house sales, partnerships, etc.

Taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to 18.8%--if Congress extends the Bush tax cuts.

If Congress does not extend the Bush tax cuts, taxes on dividends will rise from 15% to a shocking 43.8%.(WSJ)

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-n ...

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(which ends Medicare as we know it, cuts taxes for the rich, increases taxes for the rest of us, and STILL doesn't even balance the budget}
maverick

Philadelphia, PA

#30858 Aug 11, 2012
Romney. - potentialy the biggest chicken hawk yet. Let's immmediaely go to war with Iran would be the right way to go if your a neo-con. The perpetual war strategy that's cost us trillions. I wonder has anyone calculated the potential American lives at stake if Romneys elected.
Nerd Rage

Chambersburg, PA

#30859 Aug 11, 2012
Dan the Man wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the incentive - nobody wants to be poor. Nobody.
If you believe there is any more than a small, small fraction of people receiving public assistance who WANT to live on it, then you obviously don't know any poor people.
This is for everyone else. I do not respond to "Dan the Man" postings because he is incapable of any rational debate without condescending remarks, name calling, insults or just trying to "1Up" everyone to make himself feel good. I encourage you to do the same and perhaps we can bring back civility to this forum.

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