Screaming Kids In Restraunts

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Since: Mar 07

Allentown PA

#1 Oct 5, 2007
My wife and I were out having dinner last night with some friends at a medium-upper class restraunt. I won't say the name because this could happen anywhere.

A family of six ... mom, dad and four toddler-types came in shortly after we ordered dinner. Now this was a quality restaurant .. not the place to bring kids. But there they were. One little girl was wearing a princess costume. Boys in t-shirts. They were put in a circular booth and immediately the kids started standing up on the seat and jumping. What fun! Jumping and screaming! And mom and dad thought that they were oh-so-cute!

What would be wrong with a restaurant manager walking over and telling the parents that if they can't bring their kids under control they're going to have to leave?

How about shock collars? We use them for dogs to teach them not to bark, how about using them on kids to teach then not to screech like a banshee at a restaurant.

Just a mild shock. Enough to shut the little brat up for a moment or two.

A few jolts like this and suddenly you have a well-behaved little angel on your hands.

“Dirk Duncum”

Since: Feb 07

Allentown

#2 Oct 5, 2007
Michael Savage was complaining about the same thing on his show earlier in the week.

Since: Aug 07

Macungie, PA

#3 Oct 5, 2007
Brent457 wrote:
My wife and I were out having dinner last night with some friends at a medium-upper class restraunt. I won't say the name because this could happen anywhere.
A family of six ... mom, dad and four toddler-types came in shortly after we ordered dinner. Now this was a quality restaurant .. not the place to bring kids. But there they were. One little girl was wearing a princess costume. Boys in t-shirts. They were put in a circular booth and immediately the kids started standing up on the seat and jumping. What fun! Jumping and screaming! And mom and dad thought that they were oh-so-cute!
What would be wrong with a restaurant manager walking over and telling the parents that if they can't bring their kids under control they're going to have to leave?
How about shock collars? We use them for dogs to teach them not to bark, how about using them on kids to teach then not to screech like a banshee at a restaurant.
Just a mild shock. Enough to shut the little brat up for a moment or two.
A few jolts like this and suddenly you have a well-behaved little angel on your hands.
I think your comment was extreme and obviously you do not have children. I personally do not take my young children to restaurants that are not kid friendly because I have the common sense not to aggravate other patrons. Some people do not show the same courtesy though. I do agree with you there. The comment about the shock collar was ridiculous. These are children you are talking about. Grow up and stop being an a**.

“Your Own Peace Prize Inside”

Since: Mar 07

Hyannis, Mass

#4 Oct 5, 2007
I'm with you this time.
Far too many times, parents bring their precious little darlings with them and let them run amuck. I've had children crawl under my table, the parents didn't do a thing. I told little junior to go back to his table, the looks I got were like I shot their dog. "who is he to tell our children what to do"....
No respect.
At a nice seafood restaurant, with about a dozen tropical fish tanks, these kids were running around going to each tank putting their lips against the tank and acting like Blowfish. We're talking $30.00 a plate average.
No one did a thing to stop them or control them. When my son was that age, if he acted up, out we went to the parking lot, where he had a short lesson on public behavior. But that is not politically correct these days.

“Undulation Mania!”

Since: Dec 06

Allentown, PA

#5 Oct 5, 2007
Brent457 wrote:
My wife and I were out having dinner last night with some friends at a medium-upper class restraunt. I won't say the name because this could happen anywhere.
A family of six ... mom, dad and four toddler-types came in shortly after we ordered dinner. Now this was a quality restaurant .. not the place to bring kids. But there they were. One little girl was wearing a princess costume. Boys in t-shirts. They were put in a circular booth and immediately the kids started standing up on the seat and jumping. What fun! Jumping and screaming! And mom and dad thought that they were oh-so-cute!
What would be wrong with a restaurant manager walking over and telling the parents that if they can't bring their kids under control they're going to have to leave?
How about shock collars? We use them for dogs to teach them not to bark, how about using them on kids to teach then not to screech like a banshee at a restaurant.
Just a mild shock. Enough to shut the little brat up for a moment or two.
A few jolts like this and suddenly you have a well-behaved little angel on your hands.
lol... You're married??...

These kids don't need shock collars, they need responsible parents that do not condone that sort of behavior. I was able to take my kids anywhere with me simply because I didn't tolerate nonsense like that. There was never need to beat my kids, but they knew mom had no problem taking them out of an establishment or swatting their behinds in front of people. When they were growing up, I received compliments on how well behaved they were, and you know what... it really wasn't hard to do. I don't understand some of these so-called parents today...

btw... I would not put a shock collar on my dogs...
okay

Somerville, NJ

#6 Oct 5, 2007
Well I have to give my parents credit. My dad loved fine dining and he and my mom brought all five of us kids with them at times. Well let me tell you no one was jumping or acting rude, and I can say that even as little as 3 this would not be tolerated by them. They really had us under control. Parents just seem to think they can take their kids whereever and not pay attention and everyone else be subject to their mis behavior.
in Bethlehem

Bethlehem, PA

#7 Oct 5, 2007
We have brought our daughter to apollo (my fav restaurant) on several occasions. We always make sure we're there at 5:00, before the restaurant starts getting busy. they are always soooo friendly and welcoming! There is always a highchair waiting, and they immediately brought out a plate of cheese, apples, crackers. They graciously thank us for coming, and tell us to come back soon. I love that place. I would leave right away if our child wasn't able to sit and behave (which happened once - we had our food wrapped to go before it got to the table). So, my point is, I agree with the people who can't stand when out of control kids are at restaurants, but please give some of us credit for the kids who do behave and sit nicely through dinner at a nice restaurant.

Since: Mar 07

Durham, NC

#8 Oct 5, 2007
You should tell the waiter or the manager that if they cannot provide the ambiance we have come to expect at this restaurant, then WE'RE leaving..... and you can take the bill and shove it up your as$.
xboc

New York, NY

#10 Oct 5, 2007
i've always thought there should be a NON CHILDREN section just like a NON SMOKING SECTION.
2nd amendment

Palmerton, PA

#11 Oct 5, 2007
I'd complain to the manager. If they did nothing I'd get up and leave without paying a dime. On the way out I'd speak my mind to the absentee parents.

“Life is Good”

Since: Mar 07

North Whitehall

#12 Oct 5, 2007
Anna from LV wrote:
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lol... You're married??...
These kids don't need shock collars, they need responsible parents that do not condone that sort of behavior. I was able to take my kids anywhere with me simply because I didn't tolerate nonsense like that. There was never need to beat my kids, but they knew mom had no problem taking them out of an establishment or swatting their behinds in front of people. When they were growing up, I received compliments on how well behaved they were, and you know what... it really wasn't hard to do. I don't understand some of these so-called parents today...
btw... I would not put a shock collar on my dogs...
Couldn't agree with you more. I have a teenager, he's been out to dinner more times than he should. Sorry as a SAHM I do like to get out a couple nights a week. He knows what appropriate behavior is because not only do we practice it while we are out, we practice it at home. Meal time you sit properly and chat with your family.

With a toddler it's not always easy, but any parent with a brain, brings items along that will occupy your child (a book, a couple toys, finger puppets). We now have an infant and we still go out to eat a few nights a week, she's only been fussy once so far that my hubby took her outside and walked around with her to quiet her down.

It certainly is rewarding when someone walks by and remarks how well behaved your children are, it really isn't that hard.
Annie Laurie

New York, NY

#13 Oct 5, 2007
Perhaps the shock collars could be put on the parents. When their little darlings act up and they do nothing, they would receive the shock.

:D

“Life is Good”

Since: Mar 07

North Whitehall

#14 Oct 5, 2007
in Bethlehem wrote:
We have brought our daughter to apollo (my fav restaurant) on several occasions. We always make sure we're there at 5:00, before the restaurant starts getting busy. they are always soooo friendly and welcoming! There is always a highchair waiting, and they immediately brought out a plate of cheese, apples, crackers. They graciously thank us for coming, and tell us to come back soon. I love that place. I would leave right away if our child wasn't able to sit and behave (which happened once - we had our food wrapped to go before it got to the table). So, my point is, I agree with the people who can't stand when out of control kids are at restaurants, but please give some of us credit for the kids who do behave and sit nicely through dinner at a nice restaurant.
How right you are, there are still plenty of parents who know how to do it right. Going early to minimize the wait, making sure the child is not overtired or starving, etc.
2nd amendment

Palmerton, PA

#15 Oct 5, 2007
Eeyore wrote:
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It certainly is rewarding when someone walks by and remarks how well behaved your children are, it really isn't that hard.
But it does take some effort. Some parents are too dam lazy.

My parents did not tolerate such behavior in public.

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#16 Oct 5, 2007
Get over it, SF. I don't agree with Brent on a lot of things, but he is right on target here. I've had too many meals ruined by screaming kids running around a restaurant to have any sympathy for those who choose not to control their children.

If they're too young to sit still for a two hour meal, don't subject other people to those "precious little ones".
SooooFunnny wrote:
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I think your comment was extreme and obviously you do not have children. I personally do not take my young children to restaurants that are not kid friendly because I have the common sense not to aggravate other patrons. Some people do not show the same courtesy though. I do agree with you there. The comment about the shock collar was ridiculous. These are children you are talking about. Grow up and stop being an a**.

“Fight bigotry.”

Since: Feb 07

Toms River, NJ

#17 Oct 5, 2007
I like that, can we do the same for people who insist on using their cell phones in restaurants as well?
Annie Laurie wrote:
Perhaps the shock collars could be put on the parents. When their little darlings act up and they do nothing, they would receive the shock.
:D
Mom who likes to eat

Allentown, PA

#18 Oct 5, 2007
in Bethlehem wrote:
We have brought our daughter to apollo (my fav restaurant) on several occasions. We always make sure we're there at 5:00, before the restaurant starts getting busy. they are always soooo friendly and welcoming! There is always a highchair waiting, and they immediately brought out a plate of cheese, apples, crackers. They graciously thank us for coming, and tell us to come back soon. I love that place. I would leave right away if our child wasn't able to sit and behave ...
That's the way I did it, too. If any of my kids even started to act up, they were immediately taken outside. They are also required (!) to stay seated. I hate it when parents let their kids roam around or play on their game boys, listen to ipods, etc.

It is totally unfair for non-children-toting restaurant patrons to have to put up with irresponsible parents. I wish more restaurant managers would tell some parents to get out. I think some parents think it's okay because they're ''only'' at Red Robin, Friendly's, etc. Children need to behave in ALL restaurants. If parents don't make their kids behave at family restaurnts, then they're certainly never going to make the transition to 'nice' restaurants.
Mom who likes to eat

Allentown, PA

#19 Oct 5, 2007
2nd amendment wrote:
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But it does take some effort. Some parents are too dam lazy.
My parents did not tolerate such behavior in public.
I think one of the problems is that some parents think the world revolves around their kids, and if kids are acting up, then they're ''just being kids.'' Drives me flippin' nuts!

“Does it really Matter”

Since: May 07

Sunnyville USA

#20 Oct 5, 2007
Brent457 wrote:
My wife and I were out having dinner last night with some friends at a medium-upper class restraunt. I won't say the name because this could happen anywhere.
A family of six ... mom, dad and four toddler-types came in shortly after we ordered dinner. Now this was a quality restaurant .. not the place to bring kids. But there they were. One little girl was wearing a princess costume. Boys in t-shirts. They were put in a circular booth and immediately the kids started standing up on the seat and jumping. What fun! Jumping and screaming! And mom and dad thought that they were oh-so-cute!
What would be wrong with a restaurant manager walking over and telling the parents that if they can't bring their kids under control they're going to have to leave?
How about shock collars? We use them for dogs to teach them not to bark, how about using them on kids to teach then not to screech like a banshee at a restaurant.
Just a mild shock. Enough to shut the little brat up for a moment or two.
A few jolts like this and suddenly you have a well-behaved little angel on your hands.
Well Brent, I was a Floor Mgr & Bar Mgr for a number of years (as I am also a mother of three) and I understand exactly where you are coming from. However, the kids being they age you say are not the problem it's the parents! Most establishments will NOT address this issue! I will say I have in the past told parents, sorry children must stay at the table not only for their own safety but for the staff as well. As far as misbehaving in public, only the parents can control that. I never took along the kids if they were over tired or just irritable for what ever reason. Overall I never had issues with taking my children and I was happy to get compliments about how well behaved my kids were.

I have been out on several occasions where the little kids were more like little Rambo’s! Ruined my dinner and we left as quickly as we could!
I will say Brent I am surprised you didn't speak up! You certainly have every right too and you seem to strike me as the person that would!

Better luck next time you go out, and don't be afraid to tell the staff OR the parents for that matter. Maybe you will get lucky and the PARENTS (or lack there of) will read this!

“smarty pants”

Since: Apr 07

Bethlehem, PA

#21 Oct 5, 2007
I think it depends on how "out of control" the kids are. Screaming, throwing things, crawling under and around the table is unacceptable. Normal kid behavior like talking too loud or laughing should be redirected by the parents. I have a one year old and when we take him out, I arm myself with small toys, finger foods and activities to keep him occupied. We do tend to take him to more "kid friendly" places, like Fridays, Applebees, etc... I have had someone come up to me and compliment us on how well behaved he is and how nice it is that we kept him occupied during our meal, but I've also seen the dirty looks from people (when my child is being perfectly fine) who probably just don't like kids and think that no matter what they're doing, they are annoying. I guess it depends on your level of tolerance.

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