Senecas seek relationship with biz gr...

Senecas seek relationship with biz groups

There are 11 comments on the Business Journal story from Jun 23, 2011, titled Senecas seek relationship with biz groups. In it, Business Journal reports that:

The day-long meeting Thursday, held at the Seneca Allegany Casino & Hotel in Salamanca, marks the first time that the Indian nation has reached out to local economic development agencies.

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Since: Jun 11

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#1 Jun 26, 2011
Business First - by James Fink Friday, June 24, 2011, 8:30am EDT

In a move that’s being widely hailed, the Seneca Nation of IndiansbizWatch Seneca Nation of Indians Latest from The Business Journals Senecas determined while NYS wins smoke caseJudge rules against Senecas in tax caseSenecas get temporary order against taxes Follow this company brought together business leaders from Western New York and portions of Pennsylvania to lay a foundation for future collaborative efforts.

The day-long meeting Thursday, held at the Seneca Allegany Casino & Hotel in Salamanca, marks the first time that the Indian nation has reached out to local economic development agencies. It is the latest in an effort by Seneca Nation President Robert Odawi Porter to increase the tribe’s outreach in the region.

The Senecas have recently taken steps to become more involved in the development of Buffalo's waterfront, donating $1 million, and funding $1.28 million to Niagara County Community CollegebizWatch Niagara County Community College Latest from The Business Journals Seneca Gaming invests in NCCC culinary2011 Academic Team is best in its classSUNY's WNY impact placed at .7B Follow this company 's hospitality program in Niagara Falls.

It also comes against the backdrop of a long simmering legal battle between the Seneca Nation and New York state concerning the collection of sales taxes on tobacco products sold on sovereign territory and other legal action governing the development of a permanent Seneca Buffalo Creek Casino in downtown Buffalo.

please dont be stupid

Since: Dec 10

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#2 Jun 26, 2011
It would benefit everyone in WNY of the SNI were to be involved, investing, which would benefit the SNI and as an offshoot benefit the white and area.
Its time for a political change and attitude in this city so an administration will work with the SNI for the betterment of this area.
funny

Salamanca, NY

#3 Jun 26, 2011
please dont be stupid wrote:
It would benefit everyone in WNY of the SNI were to be involved, investing, which would benefit the SNI and as an offshoot benefit the white and area.
Its time for a political change and attitude in this city so an administration will work with the SNI for the betterment of this area.
Do you mean WNY or East Aurora?
DanO

Geneseo, NY

#4 Jun 26, 2011
We need to leave the Senecas alone and respect the treaties.

The only group that really wants the smoke shops taxed is the hajis running all our convenience stores. HAVE A CLUE, FOLKS~ where do you think all their profits go? STRAIGHT BACK TO PAKISTAN, that's where!

So, how's that U.S./Pakistan thing working for ya lately? You think those people are our friends?

The Senecas ARE our friends. They employ THOUSANDS of non native people right here in Western New York. Those profits stay right here folks.

If Albany can't keep it's fat greedy hand out of the Indian's pocket then I hope to Indians kick them right where it counts and put up toll booths on the I-90 and also on I-86.$10 for every car and $50 for every semi and we'll see how long Albany wants to play games.

Leave the Senecas alone. They are a sovereign nation.
george

Buffalo, NY

#5 Jun 27, 2011
DanO wrote:
We need to leave the Senecas alone and respect the treaties.
The only group that really wants the smoke shops taxed is the hajis running all our convenience stores. HAVE A CLUE, FOLKS~ where do you think all their profits go? STRAIGHT BACK TO PAKISTAN, that's where!
So, how's that U.S./Pakistan thing working for ya lately? You think those people are our friends?
The Senecas ARE our friends. They employ THOUSANDS of non native people right here in Western New York. Those profits stay right here folks.
If Albany can't keep it's fat greedy hand out of the Indian's pocket then I hope to Indians kick them right where it counts and put up toll booths on the I-90 and also on I-86.$10 for every car and $50 for every semi and we'll see how long Albany wants to play games.
Leave the Senecas alone. They are a sovereign nation.
i agree here in buffalo we have many arab owned corner stores and they sell smokes with no tax to people with welfare cards which is illegal so they charge for a food item you know this is illegal and they are stealing from the state twice on these sales and the money leaves the country via small amount money orders which is not seen as money laundering.the state is the one hurting all the mom and pop stores with their five dollar a pack tax they have driven smokers to buy indian brands on the reservation which are produced on their land and can not be taxed the indians no longer sell major brands in their niagra fall's casino just their own brands and the price is half of major brands so the state is really helping their business in their brands the state government is so corrupt they will fail in a short time and will start cutting back on welfare and medicade which is a money pitand can't be sustained i believe we will at some point see riots like they had in greece which is socialist remember when you feed a lion he is your friend but when you run out of food the lion will eat you to survive

Since: Jan 11

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#6 Jun 27, 2011
DanO wrote:
We need to leave the Senecas alone and respect the treaties.
The only group that really wants the smoke shops taxed is the hajis running all our convenience stores. HAVE A CLUE, FOLKS~ where do you think all their profits go? STRAIGHT BACK TO PAKISTAN, that's where!
So, how's that U.S./Pakistan thing working for ya lately? You think those people are our friends?
The Senecas ARE our friends. They employ THOUSANDS of non native people right here in Western New York. Those profits stay right here folks.
If Albany can't keep it's fat greedy hand out of the Indian's pocket then I hope to Indians kick them right where it counts and put up toll booths on the I-90 and also on I-86.$10 for every car and $50 for every semi and we'll see how long Albany wants to play games.
Leave the Senecas alone. They are a sovereign nation.
Respect the treaties? How about respect former agreements made such as on the Easement rights of way that the SNI gave years ago for the New York State Thruway as well as other highways? And their profits only go into the pockets of the few rich SNI higher up folks! If they are sovereign then they should put up a fence around their property-get their own highway department to maintain the roads, provide for all of their own welfare programs, provide their own power grid, provide their own food stamps, and forget about all of the other benefits from the Bureau of Indian Affairs bestowed on them each year at the cost to non native american taxpayers. Hey it doesn't work both ways does it? And I did not know that other stores only hired workers from Pakistan? Never saw a black man, oriental, or white man who was behind the counter but somehow hid his actual true identity behind the counter. Get real!
Marcia Neil

United States

#7 Jun 28, 2011
There is some suspicion that the continued focus on the Senecas is based upon 'Hite Report' orientation rather than originally-intended 'height report' appropriate in McKean County PA at a small archaeological site located in the village of Degolia PA -- in other words, that the Greek/European-overlap focus is based upon acceptance of the sodomy sexual orientation as different from the use of weapons to control population influx. There is no logic in multiple casino operations that might have an organized-crime purpose to relieve specific surnames or individuals of their money (earned or not) without law-court review and due process.
A cop sucker

United States

#8 Jun 28, 2011
I'd love to offer my talents for Indians!!!

Since: Jun 10

Irving, NY

#9 Jun 28, 2011
Prophecy:

First of all, and we go over this again and again, you know for a fact that social programs were essentially forced on indian communities around the same time a social safety net was developed for all citizens. As was citizenship, and that was despite the fact that even when indians were not considered US citizens they served more than their non indian contemporaries in the stupid, always improper wars of the United States.

This is a very simple idea to understand because without being partisan you have to think about what that shift means. It means that in the days before Collier (under Roosevelt) brought on his "reforms" which made Indian people "inclusive" to the larger, Federal apparatus, the indians seriously didn't get any help. Unless you count being kidnapped from parents and shipped to what amounted to concentration camps like Carlisle, or being systematically shackled to itemized tribal outposts because discrimination was so prevalent that even in the 1800's a Black convict faced less persecution than an indian.

You know that Salamanca used to be a sundown town right? Any indian seen in the city (instead of off in the wilds of what is now flooded territory) would be greeted with a sign declaring them unwelcome after sundown. The consequences, if you look into sundown towns against blacks in our Nation's history, could be dire.

And even with all of that being the case the Seneca indians of this area, who were largely concentrated where the reservoir now stagnates, were living simple, agrarian, traditional albeit isolated lives. This had to be FORCED away with the policies of the New Deal, which made all these people citizens of the US against their will and signed them up for programs and scraps of funding not already part of treaty obligations (which are not the same thing).

Since: Jun 10

Irving, NY

#10 Jun 28, 2011
So let's review if the same thing happened in Pennsylvania. Let's say a well meaning tycoon wanted to "civilize" and "modernize" these savage Amish and Menonite types. We will make it a fun metaphor, the tycoon and his associates can even be "rich, powerful, exclusive, tobacco-rich indians."

When applied to the same timescale the first moves would be aquiring the land from underneath them. Some time passes, enough for a few generations, but then the newly indian land is coming with attachments. Little by little all things having to do with Amish life are systematically, and purposely beaten out of the communities. Some rich indian thinks an Amish farmer's tenth generation farmstead is a nice place for his private landfill for instance, so he offers them a "new" and "modern" claptrap drawn from the most cardboard of all suburban architects. And by "offer" we mean he has the authorities drag them out and then burns their farm to the ground.

So a few more generations go by. The Amish, having been routinely, and religiously severed from their own culture are now blamed for not "upholding it," are seen as parasites because they can't seem to function as well in their new forced environment. No fear, they have also had their eligibility for every "welfare" program under the sun forced on them. The total amount of which actually causes the supposedly "upstanding taxpayers" around them almost nothing (yes I will say it again because it is a fact, welfare programs cost the average taxpayer almost nothing, it is a statistical fact).

What is the catch? Well when they were wrenched from one homeland to a synthetic one they were offered what amounted to the lamest collection of "privledges" imaginable. Since it is Amish we sill say that they were still allowed to sell their pies without charging Seneca Nation Tax, and they were allowed to make their cheese without Seneca Nation regulators checking for diseases.
But why should they be allowed to do that! The cheaters! And all that welfare they accept from the Seneca Nation, they have no sense of gratuity! Why, that welfare even costs me a fragment of a penny on my weekly paycheck!

The solution? Lets forget the whole backdrop, call anybody refering to it a "whiner" and a person "living in the past" and take over on their bakery and cheese operations. Level the playing field as it were. Otherwise they can put a fence around their... forced relocation... and they can forget about the sustained line of dependence that was shoved down their throat... and yeah! Thats the ticket!

please dont be stupid

Since: Dec 10

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#11 Jun 28, 2011
I know mr Google, find out some more facts from the search engine!

I notice you are now located in Irving NY, when did you change ISP address? I guess it happens to everyone??!

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