Drugs and the price we all pay

[Hooded Clown Prince]

Hey I had many friends and family members in the past four years expire or nearly expire from acute drug overdoses.I understand the legal limits that our elected officials are tied to but come on get a grip on reality.As much as I travel around Fentress county I've yet to see a Pharmacuetical Plant in operation in Fentress county. So common sense tells you it's coming from some where else,Nashville,Cookeville,Knox ville. So who do we arrest first the local pusher (aka) Doctors and Pharmacist. No I think not their just local business men trying to support their families. Maybe the Commissioner over Tenncare no he's just trying to maintain a mandated standard of Health for the People of Tennessee. In most situations like this the local Authorities would go after the Money Man the guy that supplies the ways and means to deliver the Poison. Any way follow the trail of bread crumbs or should I say corpses to the top and what you'll eventually discover is the Governor of our Great State, The man that oversees the rending of funds for this neffarious enterprise. Hey Just Kidding

[Aryan Brothers Mother]

The price I paid is my son.

[2leosmom]

i've lost friends and family due to drugs too, not all of those that i lost are deceased but lost none the less. it sucks to see people you love that are litterally killing themselves and nothing you say or do helps. it hurts & pisses me off. if they really and i mean really want to get clean it can happen but sadly most often its too late. i do have family and friends that have gotten clean and have been that way for years so don't give up on those that are struggling. i have one family member in particular that i am truly concerned about, i hope and pray that this person some day can get their life straightened out before its too late. they have a long haul but it can be done they just have to want it bad enough. i know the family wants it bad enough for them but thats not enough. after 9 years of drug abuse we kind of lost hope but not all hope. there is still some hope, as long as this person has breath in their body there is hope. if this person could open their heart, not eyes, and see what is in front of them then maybe it would be enough for them to try harder and if thats not enough then even HARDER! this person is loved but sometimes it takes tough love to really help someone. maybe someday...

[One Proud Christian]

Aryan Brothers Mother wrote:

The price I paid is my son.

I am so sorry for your loss. I pray that people would really stop and look at ALL of the ones that they are hurting and start getting high on life. Try getting high with God, it is really the most awesome that you can ever feel..........

[I watch and listen]

Aryan Brothers Mother wrote:

The price I paid is my son.

I too am sorry for your loss...that is my worst fear is to have to bury one of my own children. I know of two aquaintances that have died in the last few months both of drug related issues. My prayers are with you!

[Panthea]

I to am sorry for you loss, & I will pray for the one you think your going to lose. It is hard, hard for the one that's on them, and hard for the one's that aren't. I to struggled 20 something year's ago, and I know that you are right, they have to want to get off. Five year's of my life I wasted & for what, a lesson very well learned. That's why I have to disagree with Agnostic_One, about alcohol, it does kill, it kill's the liver, I am living proof of that, & without a liver your body does not live. Even though I have been clean 23 year's it still snuck up on me once again, I now have liver disease. And one proud christian, you are right. I'm the highest I have ever been through Jesus & Jehovah, doesn't it feel great just saying there name's. That's why I love knowing God's name... I JUST LOVE saying it.. doesn't it make you feel good. That's the high! And that's as high as I want to get these day's. May Jesus & Jehovah walk with you through your trouble's & may they bless you and your family, Amen

[Agnostic_One]

Panthea wrote:

. That's why I have to disagree with Agnostic_One, about alcohol, it does kill, it kill's the liver.

i am not trying to antagonize the real Panthea, but, did you drink in an excess? you can drink in moderation and not damage your body at all. As a matter of fact, there are many medicinal report that show that a glass of wine/beer a day will actually be advantageous to your health.

I absolutely abhor the damage to this person's family by substance abuse. But any thing abused will damage you.

[Panthea]

Agnostic_One wrote:

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i am not trying to antagonize the real Panthea, but, did you drink in an excess? you can drink in moderation and not damage your body at all. As a matter of fact, there are many medicinal report that show that a glass of wine/beer a day will actually be advantageous to your health.
I absolutely abhor the damage to this person's family by substance abuse. But any thing abused will damage you.

I'am 48 year's old, 20 of those year's I drank 5 of those year's was another drug, they together along with many years of it has done this to me. You have to remember there are people out there that can't stop at one drink. And I don't want to tell someone that it's ok then something go wrong, you know what the bible teaches, that we are held accountable for are action's & if it take's a life, well that action I do not want to be accountable for. I'm learning a vauleable lesson right now from drinking & drug's, why would I want some one else to go thru that? I would rather stop them...

[Agnostic_One]

I see your point P. But your choice of telling people that alcohol is bad is your choice, I am not saying you don't have the right to tell people your story and warn of the consequences of alcohol abuse.

But the key word is "Abuse". I cannot condone absolute prohibition of every substance which if abused is bad. It is against basic rights which I am a staunch believer in.

[Panthea]

Agnostic_One wrote:

I see your point P. But your choice of telling people that alcohol is bad is your choice, I am not saying you don't have the right to tell people your story and warn of the consequences of alcohol abuse.
But the key word is "Abuse". I cannot condone absolute prohibition of every substance which if abused is bad. It is against basic rights which I am a staunch believer in.

I see your point A, but the key word were really looking for is "Satan" he can bring your worst fear's to life, you nor I can stop that, but through Jehovah & his word we can try. Your a smart guy to bad your not working for his army. Do you mind if I ask what do you believe in? I mean, Jesus, Jehovah, Satan, or no one or I don't know? Just want to know.

[I watch and listen]

Panthea wrote:

<quoted text>I'am 48 year's old, 20 of those year's I drank 5 of those year's was another drug, they together along with many years of it has done this to me. You have to remember there are people out there that can't stop at one drink. And I don't want to tell someone that it's ok then something go wrong, you know what the bible teaches, that we are held accountable for are action's & if it take's a life, well that action I do not want to be accountable for. I'm learning a vauleable lesson right now from drinking & drug's, why would I want some one else to go thru that? I would rather stop them...

Panthea...I am so glad you overcame your addictions. I often times wonder what makes each individual go down that path. But you never know each has their own circumstances and reasons.

I too am a christian...was baptized when I was 9. My mother didn't even know it. She didn't and I still at this time think that she does not beleive in God. I would go the church with my best friend who lived behind me...her Daddy was the preacher at the little church I attended with her on the corner of our road. Momma let me go to church because my Dad is also a christian. I remember them even fighting over my going...how sad is that?

During the summers, I would go to my Aunt's house for a month or two...she had 4 kids and we loved the time spent together. They attended the Church of Christ. I loved this church too.

I have tried several churches here since I moved in 2000. Still have yet to find one that I am completely comfortable with. I remember going to my husband's Boss' church with his family in Livingston last year. Our entire family went. It scared my youngest one to death. It was very different from the churches we had been to befor. People would go up front...the preacher would touch them on the forhead and they would fall to the floor as if they had fainted and just lay there. Mind you the people there were very friendly, but I sure was not expecting them to act in such a way. They would get up and dance and scream. It really made me on edge.

But the thing that got me the most. They had a special guest preacher there...and over and over he would say...give your money to god...he want's you to give all you can give...ranting this as I was watching the four rings full of diamonds glitter on his hands.

I guess I prefer the small churches that teach the bibles teachings and let the congregation discuss what it means openly, rather than have someone preach hell and damnation by screaming it at the congregation.

Now my oldest daughter has found for her that Faith Baptist Tabernacle is where she is most comfortable. And she goes on a regular basis. We too have attended church there as well several times. She was baptized last year there...a very proud moment for her father and I.

But I still have yet to find the one right for myself. I do my bible reading at home, and I pray more than once each and every day. Try my best to lead a good christian life. And I do feel right with God and have no worries when it is time to meet my maker.

Sorry I rambled but I do appreciate any who took the time to read this.

[Panthea]

I watch and listen wrote:

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Panthea...I am so glad you overcame your addictions. I often times wonder what makes each individual go down that path. But you never know each has their own circumstances and reasons.
I too am a christian...was baptized when I was 9. My mother didn't even know it. She didn't and I still at this time think that she does not beleive in God. I would go the church with my best friend who lived behind me...her Daddy was the preacher at the little church I attended with her on the corner of our road. Momma let me go to church because my Dad is also a christian. I remember them even fighting over my going...how sad is that?
During the summers, I would go to my Aunt's house for a month or two...she had 4 kids and we loved the time spent together. They attended the Church of Christ. I loved this church too.
I have tried several churches here since I moved in 2000. Still have yet to find one that I am completely comfortable with. I remember going to my husband's Boss' church with his family in Livingston last year. Our entire family went. It scared my youngest one to death. It was very different from the churches we had been to befor. People would go up front...the preacher would touch them on the forhead and they would fall to the floor as if they had fainted and just lay there. Mind you the people there were very friendly, but I sure was not expecting them to act in such a way. They would get up and dance and scream. It really made me on edge.
But the thing that got me the most. They had a special guest preacher there...and over and over he would say...give your money to god...he want's you to give all you can give...ranting this as I was watching the four rings full of diamonds glitter on his hands.
I guess I prefer the small churches that teach the bibles teachings and let the congregation discuss what it means openly, rather than have someone preach hell and damnation by screaming it at the congregation.
Now my oldest daughter has found for her that Faith Baptist Tabernacle is where she is most comfortable. And she goes on a regular basis. We too have attended church there as well several times. She was baptized last year there...a very proud moment for her father and I.
But I still have yet to find the one right for myself. I do my bible reading at home, and I pray more than once each and every day. Try my best to lead a good christian life. And I do feel right with God and have no worries when it is time to meet my maker.
Sorry I rambled but I do appreciate any who took the time to read this.

Sorry I didn't see this before. Why don't you give Kingdom Hall a shot. I promise there is no screaming or yelling there. And they will not scare you. I to had been searching for the right teaching & like you, I ran into some weird stuff. They do thing's a little different, but the one thing they won't do is lead you wrong. No question that I have asked, have they answered unless they showed the scripture's first. They don't answer without saying first, let's see what Jehovah say's about it. Out of all the church's that I have been too, I feel I'm getting the proper teaching there. They have never asked me for money, there are no offering tray's there, just nice friendly people with lot's of hug's. And another thing, they don't care who I am. I know their in the area, so when one come's by, accept a visit from them and you will see what I'm talking about. There intellagence goes a long way. They are very smart. What I like most, is that if you are a real busy person they will come to your home. They don't charge to hear Jehovah's word. They just love spreading it.

[omg]

i don't think the people on drugs realize how bad it hurts the people around them. all a drug-addict thinks about is how to get his/her next hit. i wish these people could just see what they're doing to themselves and the people who care about them. i know, personally, i would hate if something bad happened to the person in my life that is very addicted to drugs. it kills me inside to know that there's really nothing i can do to make this person realize the consquences of her actions. she feels like her family is turning it's back on her, when all we're trying to do is get her help. what can we do?

[dennis terry]

My heart brakes for every person that dies as a result of drugs. The families of those who die are left with pain that no pill can take away. Our community is in trouble when it comes to drugs. My own life, is one of a past history of drugs and drinking and I can tell you from what I went through it was pure hell. There is hope, we as a community must come together and pray that God will guide us with answers that will make a real change in the way we reach out to those trapped in the bondage of addiction. God is the answer! We as christians must put aside our religious diffeances and call on Jesus and know that where two or more are gathered together in His name, He will be there with us. Its not what church we belong to, it is about a personal relationship with our savior Jesus, we are the church, not some building or religion. I invite anyone who cares about someone suffering in addiction to come to Manna House, we don't care what church you belong to, we care only that you and your loved one have a place to find help. We don't have all the answers but we will do our best to help find help for those in need. Families are invited to come to the meeting too.
As for those who think it's ok to drink or smoke a little pot, most addicts started out thinking the same thing. I believe "one is to many, and a thousand is never enough" when it comes to drugs and drinking. Lets pull together and change this community with the help of our wonderful God! The evil one has had a foot hold on this mountain for far to long. Its time to take our community back! I love you all and pray Gods blessing for you!

[cool_stranger]

nice

[preACHER]

hate the sin love the sinner

[John Black on Days]

It starts with the one standing in front of the mirror.Christ is the answer.But most people that do drugs does not have him in there life or they would not start.People start getting high for alot of reasons.Lonely,sad,can't face the real world, or the biggest reason is just sorry and likes the way they make you feel.Don't give up on them, something you might say just might click to them and make them want to stop.I know one thing,I was as low and sorry as a person can get.My father did not give up and one day just said something that clicked and I have been clean for almost 20 years.I did like beer, but beer made me lazy and nothing ever got done.I would drink just one after work ,then it was two and before I new it I was drinking a six pack ever night after work.Besides health reasons, I figured my kids was more fun than the beer and been dry for ten years.

[Jess]

John Black you are very right. We should never give up on anyone as long as they still have a breath in them. But about all a person can do is pray for our love ones. It is very hard to deal with but with the help of God we can and we must.

[Daisey]

Last Fall I lost my daughter to cancer and it was very hard to deal with.She was only sick for a few months.But the hardest part to deal with when she took sick was that her son and my grand son was in prison for drugs. She was sick for a little over three months and she never got to spend the last months of her life with the one she cared the most about.They did give him a 48 hour pass to attend her funeral. She of course didn"t know about it. I'm telling you my friend drugs and alcohol are a great deciever for anyone.It messes you up in away no one can believe unlrss you have went through it.