Gun supporters rally in Farmington

Feb 2, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Farmington Daily Times

The gun owners said they are under attack from proposed regulations and a perception that guns are responsible for some of the well-publicized mass shootings of recent months.

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xando

United States

#1 Feb 2, 2013
So let me get this straight-- several hundred people, many of them armed, gathered to protest.... uh...what, exactly--people expressing different opinions than theirs on guns? Should their opposition just shutup? That's not very American, now, is it?

I haven't noticed any gun confiscation or new gun laws. Did anyone threaten to take the rally attendees' guns?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#2 Feb 3, 2013
xando wrote:
So let me get this straight-- several hundred people, many of them armed, gathered to protest.... uh...what, exactly--people expressing different opinions than theirs on guns? Should their opposition just shutup? That's not very American, now, is it?
I haven't noticed any gun confiscation or new gun laws. Did anyone threaten to take the rally attendees' guns?
You are obviously not paying attention.....to anything.

There are not only new gun laws, AND people threatening to confiscate firearms, but tens of thousands rallied for maintaining constitutional rights nationwide, not just a few hundred in Farmington.

It isn't "very American" for our so-called "leaders" in government to violate their oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution, with full support of sheep who mistakenly consider themselves "free citizens".
xando

United States

#3 Feb 3, 2013
You obviously don't understand what you read. I specifically commented on the DT article re the Farmington rally.

Do you know if there are new gun laws in NM? Do you know what states have enacted new laws? New York and CA have enacted new laws. Do you have a clue what they include? They have nothing to do with confiscating your weapons or preventing you from buying them.

NY laws now limit a magazine from 10 rounds to 7. Possessing a firearm on school grounds is now a felony rather than a misdemeanor. Direct internet sales of ammo has been banned. Mental health professionals are required to report patients they feel may commit a violent act. The law requires universal background checks (isn't that a good thing?).

None of the these laws infringe upon law abiding citizen's to possess firearms.

And apparently, in America there is the right to rally (with weapons) and protest and/or say your piece.

What's your beef?
Everyone

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Feb 3, 2013
should have a gun, then and only then will crime go down.
Yeah

Santa Fe, NM

#5 Feb 3, 2013
Everyone wrote:
should have a gun, then and only then will crime go down.
that's logical....LOL
xando

United States

#6 Feb 3, 2013
Everyone wrote:
should have a gun, then and only then will crime go down.
More people own guns now than ever before, yet crime has not diminished.

These wild, emotion-filled statements are funny.

“26.2”

Since: Feb 08

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Feb 3, 2013
The situation we have is this. There will be some state and local governments that will impose more stringent gun control at their level. But there is no legal or practical way to completely disarm America of the 300+ million firearms that exist in our country.

There also is no practical way of keeping guns out of the hands of felons, or mentally ill people who have not yet posed a danger to themselves or others. Mass shootings are a part of life in the USA, and we all need to come to grips with that.

I guess arming our kindergarten teachers so they can shoot it out with the heavily armed nutjobs who occasionally try to massacre students at schools is the lesser of the evils...compared to having our teachers be competely defenseless.

In our house, we have firearms locked away from kids, but rapidly accessible in an emergency thru digital gun vaults. My wife and I both shoot.

But what really scares me are the paranoid and delusional anti-government whackos who are preparing themselves for some kind of civil war against the US government and against most of the US citizenry.
xando

United States

#8 Feb 3, 2013
Lobo, I'm in agreement with you. People are not going to be disarmed, but I find it irrational and illogical to work up hysteria every time there is a discussion. This reaction can trigger extreme behavior by conspiracy theorists.

More people own guns than ever, and the 2nd Amendment has not been compromised.

Of course, the NRA is profiting from the needless frantic reactions.

“Polymath”

Since: Jul 08

Farmington

#9 Feb 3, 2013
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>
You are obviously not paying attention.....to anything.
There are not only new gun laws, AND people threatening to confiscate firearms, but tens of thousands rallied for maintaining constitutional rights nationwide, not just a few hundred in Farmington.
It isn't "very American" for our so-called "leaders" in government to violate their oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution, with full support of sheep who mistakenly consider themselves "free citizens".
There's more "sheep" like us than "wolves" like you. thank goodness for a country run by the MAJORITY. Time to stop the gun violence.

I guess those people don't care about the 30,000 American gun dead this year alone. Pretty selfish of them...

“Polymath”

Since: Jul 08

Farmington

#10 Feb 3, 2013
You do bring up a good point, though. An amendment can be changed, time to change the Constitution.

Repeal the second amendment.
xando

United States

#11 Feb 3, 2013
Saint_ wrote:
You do bring up a good point, though. An amendment can be changed, time to change the Constitution.
Repeal the second amendment.
Now saint, you're going to cause CN's acid reflux to flare up

Lol
factologist

Farmington, NM

#12 Feb 3, 2013
Did you know in 2012 the firearms and ammunition industry was responsible for as much as $31.84 billion in total economic activity in this country? However, a typical year is worth about 50% of that. The paranoia of Obama banning weapons was responsible for banner years in 08 and 12.

Still lots of "wolfs" out there Saint. Paranoid little wolfs like Squach and CLN.

Did you see the little girl holding up a sign that read "Invest in precious metal. Buy lead". She couldn't be more than about 12.

The thing that came to my mind was that the children at Sandy Hook were forced to make that investment and payed the dearest of price. A pity the parents of that child holding the banner couldn't realize that.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#13 Feb 3, 2013
Lobo Viejo wrote:
The situation we have is this. There will be some state and local governments that will impose more stringent gun control at their level. But there is no legal or practical way to completely disarm America of the 300+ million firearms that exist in our country.
There also is no practical way of keeping guns out of the hands of felons, or mentally ill people who have not yet posed a danger to themselves or others. Mass shootings are a part of life in the USA, and we all need to come to grips with that.
I guess arming our kindergarten teachers so they can shoot it out with the heavily armed nutjobs who occasionally try to massacre students at schools is the lesser of the evils...compared to having our teachers be competely defenseless.
In our house, we have firearms locked away from kids, but rapidly accessible in an emergency thru digital gun vaults. My wife and I both shoot.
But what really scares me are the paranoid and delusional anti-government whackos who are preparing themselves for some kind of civil war against the US government and against most of the US citizenry.
Good post LV.

I bought a box of 38's recently, but only because I'd just run out, not because of run on ammo fueled by mass hysteria. Yet to some degree they do make a point too.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#14 Feb 3, 2013
xando wrote:
Of course, the NRA is profiting from the needless frantic reactions.
As are our local economies, but I can think of better ways to stimulate that.
xando

United States

#15 Feb 3, 2013
Interesting that conspiracy theorists can't see the conspiracy could work both ways. Did it ever occur to them that the NRA profits amazingly when "Obama threatens" to ban weapons?
factologist wrote:
Did you know in 2012 the firearms and ammunition industry was responsible for as much as $31.84 billion in total economic activity in this country? However, a typical year is worth about 50% of that. The paranoia of Obama banning weapons was responsible for banner years in 08 and 12.
Still lots of "wolfs" out there Saint. Paranoid little wolfs like Squach and CLN.
Did you see the little girl holding up a sign that read "Invest in precious metal. Buy lead". She couldn't be more than about 12.
The thing that came to my mind was that the children at Sandy Hook were forced to make that investment and payed the dearest of price. A pity the parents of that child holding the banner couldn't realize that.
Only

Albuquerque, NM

#16 Feb 3, 2013
xando wrote:
Interesting that conspiracy theorists can't see the conspiracy could work both ways. Did it ever occur to them that the NRA profits amazingly when "Obama threatens" to ban weapons?
<quoted text>
in recognition, not monetarily.
nope

Santa Fe, NM

#17 Feb 3, 2013
Only wrote:
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in recognition, not monetarily.
BS - they get dues from the goobers, financial backing from their industry sponsors and big donors.

In 2010 the NRA reported that it had 781 full time employees, 125,000 volunteers and generated revenues of $227.8 million.

Where does all that come from? In 2010,$71 million came from contributions and grants,$100 million from membership fees and $46 million from other revenue sources, like ad sales ($20 million) royalties, rents and subscriptions.

In 2010 that wasn’t enough to cover expenses. In total, they spent $243.5 million, leaving a $15 million shortfall, at least that year, which was cushioned by assets of $37.5 million.

Where did all the money go? About $33 million went to salaries and wages (not including the top brass),$28 million went to advertising and promotions. By far the biggest items were membership outreach:$57 million for membership communications,$24 million for printing and shipping,$16 million for educational programs. Just about $10 million went to the NRA’s lobbying arm, the Institute for Legislative Action.

More than $12.7 million went to Akron-Ohio based InfoCision, a huge telemarketing company that lists a broad spectrum of blue chip non-profits as clients– including Smile Train, the American Diabetes Association, Easter Seals and Unicef—as well as the College Republican National Committee and companies like Time Warner and AT&T.

As for salaries, fifty-six people in the organization earned more than $100,000 in 2010—and 10 made more than $250,000. Lapierre does not top the list. Kayne B. Robinson, the executive director of general operations does. He was paid just over $1 million. Lapierre was second, pulling in $970,000 in reportable and estimated comp.

Chris W. Cox, the executive director of the group’s lobbying efforts, was third. He earned just over $666,000.

http://archive.org/stream/NationalRifleAssoci...
xando

United States

#18 Feb 3, 2013
Only wrote:
<quoted text>
in recognition, not monetarily.
No, monetarily.

The NRA and firearms industry have an agreement that gives $1.00 to the NRA for each purchase of gun/ammo.

The NRA profits nicely from the hysteria.

Google it.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#19 Feb 3, 2013
xando wrote:
<quoted text>
No, monetarily.
The NRA and firearms industry have an agreement that gives $1.00 to the NRA for each purchase of gun/ammo.
The NRA profits nicely from the hysteria.
Google it.
Really, have you a link that speaks to that? Not arguing, just curious to read such an agreement.
xando

United States

#20 Feb 3, 2013
CornDogz wrote:
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Really, have you a link that speaks to that? Not arguing, just curious to read such an agreement.
As I said, you will need to Google it. My comp crashed and I'm on a cheap phone that doesn't cooperate.

I was just reading about it from one of several articles on the web.

Sorry.

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