The HHS Football Bulldogs Look Like Crap

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Spectator,
--As a former football player and coach I can speak on the behalf of Coach Warnecke. The practices are average, lifting is a part of the football culture, and if they work harder at home doing chores than they do at practice how can the practices be considered psychotic? I understand that people want to just be a part of a team and not have the dedication to become a great player. I will agree with you by saying a player does not have to lift weights to be good, you are correct. However, if a player wants to be great and actually help his team, lifting is suggested.
--I am currently a high school coach and I have developed a weightlifting plan for my kids to participate in during the off-season, just as coach warnecke and 99% of other coaches have their kids do. I feel it may be a good idea to think about the things you say before you say them. It is evident that you have no idea about lifting or athletic development and I think even "Concerned Parent" with me on this issue. I feel I am slightly more qualified to speak on the issue than you are being a college graduate and having a degree in sports training.
--I am not on here to start fights or embarrass anyone. I am only trying to shine a little light on a topic that I feel I can add some insight on. I am not saying you should not be concerned for your child's wellbeing, a good parent always is. I just feel that before you come online demanding a coach be fired you may want to take a look at other football pragrams and then determine if his practices and weightlifting requests are so out of line.
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Well I think with the mater dei transfers and the weak schedule along with the mvc being down next year the highland football team should go 9-0. Think about it, highland hasn't win a football conference since 1989. A 20 year drought. They won it with a great player. Next year they will win it with a depth of talent, they may even be good enough to win it again with the leftover talent. After that it will be another 20 years. I think Warnecke loves football and has a passion for it but has not a clue on how to build a program
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Sports fan wrote:
Well I think with the mater dei transfers and the weak schedule along with the mvc being down next year the highland football team should go 9-0. Think about it, highland hasn't win a football conference since 1989. A 20 year drought. They won it with a great player. Next year they will win it with a depth of talent, they may even be good enough to win it again with the leftover talent. After that it will be another 20 years. I think Warnecke loves football and has a passion for it but has not a clue on how to build a program
Did these boys not get enough play time at Mater Dei so they come back to Highland? Just curious why all the sudden they come back here??
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They came because Warnecke is a great coach. He motivates and IS building a program. The most talented team Highland ever had finished 5-5. Very under achieved under Holt. They should have gave Warnecke the reigns back then and it would be amazing to see what he could have done through out the last 5/6 years.
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I've watched him close. He has no discipline. Coaches chewing , dropping f bombs. What are the caliber of coaches he has? Sorry but jimmy Warnecke will win for 2 years because of talent then the wheels will fall off. I bet my savings on it.

The 3 kids from md will bring great depth with offense and defense skill to be a force. My pick 6 says mascoutah beats them in conference.
It's easy to coach talent. Building a program takes discipline and consistency. He has neither.
Time will tell.
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I can comment on this thread because I know first hand. Go look in the weight room now. Not just Kids playing the next two years. Yes this and the next class have a lot of talent, but they have more. They have leadership now. Success breeds success. Jim IS building a program that will succeed for years to come. He has instilled pride in these young men, character, and a willingness to put in the hard work necessary to become champions. Not just on the field, but as men.
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What wrote:
They came because Warnecke is a great coach. He motivates and IS building a program. The most talented team Highland ever had finished 5-5. Very under achieved under Holt. They should have gave Warnecke the reigns back then and it would be amazing to see what he could have done through out the last 5/6 years.
I don't know how old you are but the most talented TEAM went all the way to Morris and lost in the semi-final round of state. That was the team that Billy Greenwald was on and the entire team was very talented. One player could not have accomplished what that team did that year. No other team has advanced that far in the playoffs. It took a team effort all the way. there have been talented players before and since that time but not an entire team. Maybe you should check the school records before you make such a sweeping comment. I stand to be corrected...The team that Rick Moss played on went 9-0 and did not get to be in the playoff becasue that was before the state held playoff for football, and there was no class structure. Everyone played against each other.
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Im not saying that billy greenwalds team wasnt the best team to go through HHS but when it came to pure talent; Odorizzi, Becherer, Degroot, Shaw, Kharibian, Kurz, 3 TEs that caught the ball just as well as the receiving core. Big up front. They all played college ball or should have.
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Highlander wrote:
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Did these boys not get enough play time at Mater Dei so they come back to Highland? Just curious why all the sudden they come back here??
Various reasons why they left, NONE of which had to do with playing time, since they were all varsity starters at one time or another.

Czar left after his freshman year last year and Winning transferred at the beginning of this semester (his freshman year), because they realized early on that MD was not a good fit for them.

Waldman left, because he and his parents were told all summer by coaches that he had the starting QB position, up until the first day of practice, when he was locked in. Once he was locked in and couldn't go anywhere else to play football, he was told they were going with the senior. He refused to support a program that operates that way, even though he more than likely would have been their starting QB this year.

All 3 should be great assets to the Bulldogs this season.
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Mar 20, 2013
 
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Highland will never have a great football team until it get's rid of the coach. All the really good players have either quit or didn't go out for it, because they're tired of his psychotic practices in 107 degree weather, his verbal abuse, and year round weight lifting (sometimes twice a day). Don't take my word for it, ask around to some of the juniors and senior that aren't on the team this year. And save the argument about the kids being soft. Some of these farm boys that aren't playing work harder at home before leaving for school, than what the team requires after school. The smart ones aren't on the team because they have a life outside of football. They aren't going to spend their entire summer in the weightlifting room. There are other things - like girlfriends, jobs, going to the drive-in with friends. While they would love to play football, they say playing for the current coach is like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer; it feels good when you stop and was a pretty useless thing to do to begin with. You want a winning football team? Get a coach that has as much compassion as he does testosterone and ego. Being a good football player doesn't make you a good coach. Using that logic then I guess every bank teller is qualified to own and operate a bank (no offense to the hard working bank tellers of the world.) I hope someone from the Board of Education reads this and does something to replace the coach. Not to get a winning team, but to look after the welfare of the hardworking players that are left on the team. If you are from the BOE you might want to ask the coach what kind of "nutritional supplements" he's providing to the players. BTW coach, if your going to have your player take "nutritional supplements" that's main side effect is dehydration, you might not want to practice your players in 107 degree heat; not unless you're going to add kidney dialysis time to their daily football schedule.
Your argument makes no sense. "Good players" don't have much of a life outside of football. They are committed to the team. Football is their full-time job, during the season and in the off season, and that includes practices, lifting, training, etc. If a player is seeking recruitment to a college football program, he sure as hell won't get there if he isn't on the field on Friday night. And believe me, if you think these high school practices are "psychotic," you have never observed a college practice.

By the way, practices and lifting, and yes, even yelling, are all part of football, and the truly "good players" not only realize that, but also expect it. My guess is that the players you refer to as "good players" who don't play anymore are actually those that didn't have the heart, desire and/or talent to stick it out. Football is not about giving players a false sense of achievement. You have to do the work, and even then, you're not guaranteed a spot beyond the bench. No matter how hard your "good players" work away from football, if they aren't willing to do the work and maintain a team mentality, they aren't cut out for the game of football.
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Mar 23, 2013
 
The boys on the team all work hard and it's not just one player that is a standout. It's hard work and dedication that all these young men put in year round to make it a success. It's also a dedicated coaching staff that strives to get better each season.
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Andrew Winning will be the star for the next 3 years.

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