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Annual cost of illegal aliens to US Taxpayers

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luther

Charlottesville, VA

#1 Jul 20, 2017
113 Billion a year. Congress SUCKS-------------.
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#2 Jul 28, 2017
The estimate you cite is from FAIR. This has received extensive criticism as it includes only the costs of illegal immigration, not the benefits. For example, illegal immigrants who use a fake social security number pay into the program but will never receive benefits and they have income taxes withheld, but do not file returns to obtain refunds. When the economy is at or near full employment as it is now, after seven years of growth, the loss of workers, even undocumented ones would be damaging to businesses and tend to depress the economy. It is really hard to pin down the number and there are many wildly conflicting studies, but a study from the National Academy of Sciences (non-partisan, unpaid, very careful in its statement) noted that about 76% economists believe there is a net benefit.
Deport DACA

United States

#3 Sep 18, 2017
sesostrus wrote:
The estimate you cite is from FAIR. This has received extensive criticism as it includes only the costs of illegal immigration, not the benefits. For example, illegal immigrants who use a fake social security number pay into the program but will never receive benefits and they have income taxes withheld, but do not file returns to obtain refunds. When the economy is at or near full employment as it is now, after seven years of growth, the loss of workers, even undocumented ones would be damaging to businesses and tend to depress the economy. It is really hard to pin down the number and there are many wildly conflicting studies, but a study from the National Academy of Sciences (non-partisan, unpaid, very careful in its statement) noted that about 76% economists believe there is a net benefit.
Illegals more costly than Hurricaines
College positions taken from American born citizens.
In state tuition for illegals cost tax payers
Illegals receive financial support that American children don't
Free medicaid funded by Anerican taxpayers
Free or low cost housing funded by taxpayers
Free WIC and EBT paid by American taxpayers.
Additional schools built costing increase in local and property taxes
Free hospital visits cost added to taxpayers hospital bills
Increased human trafficking, mexican gangs, MS13,
illegal drug activity, all requiring larger jails. All increase demand on American taxpayers
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#4 Sep 21, 2017
Think about some of the things you said -- immigrants (legal and illegal) Do pay taxes. Prove it to yourself -- go the grocery store and tell the clerk that you don't have to pay because you are an illegal immigrant. Let me know how that works. If they own a house, they pay real estate taxes, but illegal immigrants do not receive a proportionate share of benefits. Many benefits are available to those can prove legal residence.
If an undocumented immigrant takes a job using a social security number they obtained under false pretenses, their taxes are withheld, but they are frequently fearful of pursuing refunds. If they use someone else's social security number, they pay taxes and Social Security withholding with no hope of receiving payments. Social Security is dependent
As to taking college slots -- colleges have more slots than they can fill, and are grateful for students. Not Harvard and Yale, but the many smaller and more local colleges. Colleges are closing for lack of students. They benefit from students legal or illegal. Besides, I don't think that American students are so feeble that they cannot compete for spaces.
Itís pretty easy to go through your list and talk about the other side. Basically, though, we know from hard data that the DACA dreamers are more law-abiding than the average American. Perhaps they are on their best behavior because they want to stay here, but whatever the motivation, they are an asset to the country.
There are many studies on this subject of the costs and benefits of immigration. Those by groups who advocate against immigrants (like the cynically named FAIR) cite huge net costs; while those groups that advocate for immigrants cite huge net benefits. I have read a half dozen of these contradictory studies. The only generalization I can make is the positive studies count costs and benefits while the negative studies count only costs, which is logically and intellectually dishonest. I donít have a personal opinion on which study is best as I am not an expert in this area, but I would tend to favor the study by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) as they work hard to be objective and thorough in all of their work
Support Ed governor

United States

#6 Oct 16, 2017
sesostrus wrote:
The estimate you cite is from FAIR. This has received extensive criticism as it includes only the costs of illegal immigration, not the benefits. For example, illegal immigrants who use a fake social security number pay into the program but will never receive benefits and they have income taxes withheld, but do not file returns to obtain refunds. When the economy is at or near full employment as it is now, after seven years of growth, the loss of workers, even undocumented ones would be damaging to businesses and tend to depress the economy. It is really hard to pin down the number and there are many wildly conflicting studies, but a study from the National Academy of Sciences (non-partisan, unpaid, very careful in its statement) noted that about 76% economists believe there is a net benefit.
Pardon me is using a FAKE social security card criminal offense? Many illegals using stolen social security cards file for earned income tax credits.
Cost to keep illegals in jail. Yep big loss to working American tax payers funding illegals.
Perhaps the loss as high 76%.
Deport DACA Dreamers# american tax payers dream better
Elect Ed Gillespie governor Virginia
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#7 Oct 18, 2017
Support Ed governor wrote:
<quoted text>

Pardon me is using a FAKE social security card criminal offense? Many illegals using stolen social security cards file for earned income tax credits.
Cost to keep illegals in jail. Yep big loss to working American tax payers funding illegals.
Perhaps the loss as high 76%.
Deport DACA Dreamers# american tax payers dream better
Elect Ed Gillespie governor Virginia
Of course using a fake social security card is illegal. Its also a problem for the user since they pay in, but will receive payments. Its a gift to U.S. citizens and legal residents for which we should say thank you.

I rather like Mr. Gillespie; he's not a bad man, but plan to vote for Mr. Northam. My decision was tipped when Mr. Gillespie would not commit to substantial investments in Northern Virginia transportation improvements (my number 1 priority), and when he went on about illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities in Virginia. There is no data, whatsoever, that indicates that illegal immigrants disproportionately contribute to crime in the Commonwealth, and there are NO sanctuary cities in the state and never have been. Mr. Gillespie has turned silly, selling to rubes. I prefer more grown up governors.
Support Ed Gillespie

United States

#8 Oct 22, 2017
Yep...your grown up governor also knows better how to spend your money than you....
Your grown up governor prefer spend your money removing status.
That money better spent improving school buildings
Truth

United States

#13 Nov 7, 2017
sesostrus wrote:
Think about some of the things you said -- immigrants (legal and illegal) Do pay taxes. Prove it to yourself -- go the grocery store and tell the clerk that you don't have to pay because you are an illegal immigrant. Let me know how that works. If they own a house, they pay real estate taxes, but illegal immigrants do not receive a proportionate share of benefits. Many benefits are available to those can prove legal residence.
If an undocumented immigrant takes a job using a social security number they obtained under false pretenses, their taxes are withheld, but they are frequently fearful of pursuing refunds. If they use someone else's social security number, they pay taxes and Social Security withholding with no hope of receiving payments. Social Security is dependent
As to taking college slots -- colleges have more slots than they can fill, and are grateful for students. Not Harvard and Yale, but the many smaller and more local colleges. Colleges are closing for lack of students. They benefit from students legal or illegal. Besides, I don't think that American students are so feeble that they cannot compete for spaces.
Itís pretty easy to go through your list and talk about the other side. Basically, though, we know from hard data that the DACA dreamers are more law-abiding than the average American. Perhaps they are on their best behavior because they want to stay here, but whatever the motivation, they are an asset to the country.
There are many studies on this subject of the costs and benefits of immigration. Those by groups who advocate against immigrants (like the cynically named FAIR) cite huge net costs; while those groups that advocate for immigrants cite huge net benefits. I have read a half dozen of these contradictory studies. The only generalization I can make is the positive studies count costs and benefits while the negative studies count only costs, which is logically and intellectually dishonest. I donít have a personal opinion on which study is best as I am not an expert in this area, but I would tend to favor the study by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) as they work hard to be objective and thorough in all of their work
You encourage fraud and illegall behavior.
Understand why you support democratic party.
Regressive democrats want raise taxes, teach English as second language. Take money from Virginia workers and spend in Roanoke.
Rian

United States

#14 Jan 20, 2018
Deport DACA wrote:
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Illegals more costly than Hurricaines
College positions taken from American born citizens.
In state tuition for illegals cost tax payers
Illegals receive financial support that American children don't
Free medicaid funded by Anerican taxpayers
Free or low cost housing funded by taxpayers
Free WIC and EBT paid by American taxpayers.
Additional schools built costing increase in local and property taxes
Free hospital visits cost added to taxpayers hospital bills
Increased human trafficking, mexican gangs, MS13,
illegal drug activity, all requiring larger jails. All increase demand on American taxpayers
You forgot more second language teachers.
More school buildings and classrooms.
Results increasing local property taxes paid for by American workers.
Gravely Point

United States

#17 Jan 30, 2018
Rian wrote:
<quoted text>

You forgot more second language teachers.
More school buildings and classrooms.
Results increasing local property taxes paid for by American workers.
Why are there so many white, limp wristed, radically liberal millenial men in Arlingtron? You're such a bunch of fruitcake-flavored snowflakes!
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#20 Mar 13, 2018
Support Ed governor wrote:
<quoted text>

Pardon me is using a FAKE social security card criminal offense? Many illegals using stolen social security cards file for earned income tax credits.
Cost to keep illegals in jail. Yep big loss to working American tax payers funding illegals.
Perhaps the loss as high 76%.
Deport DACA Dreamers# american tax payers dream better
Elect Ed Gillespie governor Virginia
DACA recipients can use their own tax IDs. They have no need to use a fake SSN. Besides, using a fake SSN means that there is withholding taken from wages when there is no possibility of the employee receiving benefits. Other participants in Social Security benefit.

What do you think: if we deport someone who has pain in under a false number, should we refund the money they paid in? What about interest?
Bernice Cooper

Charlottesville, VA

#22 Mar 20, 2018
Donít be a candy A**.
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#24 Mar 26, 2018
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>

You encourage fraud and illegall behavior.
Understand why you support democratic party.
Regressive democrats want raise taxes, teach English as second language. Take money from Virginia workers and spend in Roanoke.
Roanoke? What in heaven's name are you talking about?
sesostrus

Alexandria, VA

#25 Mar 26, 2018
Bernice Cooper wrote:
Donít be a candy A**.
Please elaborate. Who is a candy A** and in what way? Your comment isn't clear.

Its interesting to me that nobody has weighed in on my question of whether we should refund the amount undocumented workers have paid into Social Security with fake number when we deport them and whether we should pay interest. It seem fair.
Bert

Charlottesville, VA

#26 Mar 29, 2018
sesostrus wrote:
<quoted text>

Please elaborate. Who is a candy A** and in what way? Your comment isn't clear.

Its interesting to me that nobody has weighed in on my question of whether we should refund the amount undocumented workers have paid into Social Security with fake number when we deport them and whether we should pay interest. It seem fair.
. Check 21#óó-your comprehension must be bad.
Trump suckers

Richmond, IN

#27 May 16, 2018
Deport DACA wrote:
<quoted text>

Illegals more costly than Hurricaines
College positions taken from American born citizens.
In state tuition for illegals cost tax payers
Illegals receive financial support that American children don't
Free medicaid funded by Anerican taxpayers
Free or low cost housing funded by taxpayers
Free WIC and EBT paid by American taxpayers.
Additional schools built costing increase in local and property taxes
Free hospital visits cost added to taxpayers hospital bills
Increased human trafficking, mexican gangs, MS13,
illegal drug activity, all requiring larger jails. All increase demand on American taxpayers
Trumps wife is an immigrant!
Trump himself has another imigrant ex wife
Trump had an affair with an illegal immigrant maid in Trump Tower and knocked her up so now he has an anchor baby
So after he knocked her up he reported her to immigration and had her deported Trump is two faced scum
Trump suckers

Richmond, IN

#29 May 16, 2018
Deport DACA wrote:
<quoted text>

Illegals more costly than Hurricaines
College positions taken from American born citizens.
In state tuition for illegals cost tax payers
Illegals receive financial support that American children don't
Free medicaid funded by Anerican taxpayers
Free or low cost housing funded by taxpayers
Free WIC and EBT paid by American taxpayers.
Additional schools built costing increase in local and property taxes
Free hospital visits cost added to taxpayers hospital bills
Increased human trafficking, mexican gangs, MS13,
illegal drug activity, all requiring larger jails. All increase demand on American taxpayers
You should ask your president to move his and his families businesses back to the US he talks a big game but don't do it himself
Watch what they do not what they say
For example
Trump said he didn't know shit about Stormy Daniels - didn't pay her
Said it time and time again to your pubtards faces!
Today he filed a financial disclosure and admired he paid her!
He also voted for Obama and was a life long Democrat
He said
"If I ever ran for President I would run as a Republican because they are so stupid I could lie to their face and they would still vote for me!
Ernie

Charlottesville, VA

#30 Jun 14, 2018
sesostrus wrote:
Think about some of the things you said -- immigrants (legal and illegal) Do pay taxes. Prove it to yourself -- go the grocery store and tell the clerk that you don't have to pay because you are an illegal immigrant. Let me know how that works. If they own a house, they pay real estate taxes, but illegal immigrants do not receive a proportionate share of benefits. Many benefits are available to those can prove legal residence.
If an undocumented immigrant takes a job using a social security number they obtained under false pretenses, their taxes are withheld, but they are frequently fearful of pursuing refunds. If they use someone else's social security number, they pay taxes and Social Security withholding with no hope of receiving payments. Social Security is dependent
As to taking college slots -- colleges have more slots than they can fill, and are grateful for students. Not Harvard and Yale, but the many smaller and more local colleges. Colleges are closing for lack of students. They benefit from students legal or illegal. Besides, I don't think that American students are so feeble that they cannot compete for spaces.
Itís pretty easy to go through your list and talk about the other side. Basically, though, we know from hard data that the DACA dreamers are more law-abiding than the average American. Perhaps they are on their best behavior because they want to stay here, but whatever the motivation, they are an asset to the country.
There are many studies on this subject of the costs and benefits of immigration. Those by groups who advocate against immigrants (like the cynically named FAIR) cite huge net costs; while those groups that advocate for immigrants cite huge net benefits. I have read a half dozen of these contradictory studies. The only generalization I can make is the positive studies count costs and benefits while the negative studies count only costs, which is logically and intellectually dishonest. I donít have a personal opinion on which study is best as I am not an expert in this area, but I would tend to favor the study by the National Academy of Sciences (NAS) as they work hard to be objective and thorough in all of their work
You are Socialist.
Ernie

Charlottesville, VA

#31 Jun 14, 2018
Trump suckers wrote:
<quoted text>
You should ask your president to move his and his families businesses back to the US he talks a big game but don't do it himself
Watch what they do not what they say
For example
Trump said he didn't know shit about Stormy Daniels - didn't pay her
Said it time and time again to your pubtards faces!
Today he filed a financial disclosure and admired he paid her!
He also voted for Obama and was a life long Democrat
He said
"If I ever ran for President I would run as a Republican because they are so stupid I could lie to their face and they would still vote for me!
And we did. Now you Socialist are againsít him. He is in your pockets on Flag day.
Colby Covington

Richmond, IN

#32 Jun 15, 2018
luther wrote:
113 Billion a year. Congress SUCKS----------
Trump cost more than that I would rather have the illegals
They are both filthy animals

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