8 Minnesota state troopers hit in 3 days

8 Minnesota state troopers hit in 3 days

There are 94 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 23, 2011, titled 8 Minnesota state troopers hit in 3 days. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The Minnesota State Patrol is urging drivers to use caution, after eight troopers have been struck by vehicles on state roads in the past three days.

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CowBell Boy

Red Wing, MN

#103 Feb 24, 2011
Rob wrote:
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Trains.
You should maybe invest in one of those pill dispensers that is labeled with each day of the week. I think you may have forgotten to take them for a few days now. A mass transit system would work great, if we could fast forward 30-40 years by that time it should be almost completely functional. Until then our own vehicles are the primary method of transportation. Trains will not work in the US like the do in Europe.
Orly

Saint Paul, MN

#104 Feb 24, 2011
I agree with Javier, there are times when you just can't move over because of traffic, but, you can slow down and then it will be easier to manuever the vehicle if need be around the trooper. They put their lives on the line every day. Their families suffer when they are killed or injured by senseless drivers.
Really

Minneapolis, MN

#105 Feb 24, 2011
Orly wrote:
I agree with Javier, there are times when you just can't move over because of traffic, but, you can slow down and then it will be easier to manuever the vehicle if need be around the trooper. They put their lives on the line every day. Their families suffer when they are killed or injured by senseless drivers.
And the families of the people affected by Troopers actions are also impacted.

Like the father and kids in the minivan that was pitted by the female Trooper in St Paul. They were also affected.

Troopers and all law enforcement officers need to work smart, then noone is hurt.
Rob

Minneapolis, MN

#106 Feb 24, 2011
CowBell Boy wrote:
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You should maybe invest in one of those pill dispensers that is labeled with each day of the week. I think you may have forgotten to take them for a few days now. A mass transit system would work great, if we could fast forward 30-40 years by that time it should be almost completely functional. Until then our own vehicles are the primary method of transportation. Trains will not work in the US like the do in Europe.
Trains worked fine in the US until we allowed them to be destroyed. I admit, there is no immediate solution other than buses(other than easy to develop commuter rail on existing lines). But if we get goofball idealogues in governors' offices turning down development funds intended for the betterment of their states and the nation as a whole, we'll never got out of the auto/oil nightmare we find ourselves in. I guess California benefits though.
Wasted money

Long Lake, MN

#107 Feb 25, 2011
Rob wrote:
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Trains worked fine in the US until we allowed them to be destroyed. I admit, there is no immediate solution other than buses(other than easy to develop commuter rail on existing lines). But if we get goofball idealogues in governors' offices turning down development funds intended for the betterment of their states and the nation as a whole, we'll never got out of the auto/oil nightmare we find ourselves in. I guess California benefits though.
"But if we get goofball idealogues in governors' offices turning down development funds intended for the betterment of their states".

Trains failed because planes and motor vehicles are a superior means of moving.
Rob

Minneapolis, MN

#108 Feb 25, 2011
Wasted money wrote:
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"But if we get goofball idealogues in governors' offices turning down development funds intended for the betterment of their states".
Trains failed because planes and motor vehicles are a superior means of moving.
Trains failed because the superhighway system created government funded incentives for people to drive automobiles, while railroad companies were private, self-funded enterprises. Transportation went where the money was, and in this case it was and is taxpayer dollars subsidizing a particular form of transportation, putting the other out of business.

Then there is the Great American Streetcar Scandal in which a number of companies colluded to replace valuable public transportation infrastructure, the electric/commuter rail lines, with buses, much to the advantage of bus, tire and petroleum producers if not the American commuter.
Wasted money

Minneapolis, MN

#109 Feb 25, 2011
Rob wrote:
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Trains failed because the superhighway system created government funded incentives for people to drive automobiles, while railroad companies were private, self-funded enterprises. Transportation went where the money was, and in this case it was and is taxpayer dollars subsidizing a particular form of transportation, putting the other out of business.
Then there is the Great American Streetcar Scandal in which a number of companies colluded to replace valuable public transportation infrastructure, the electric/commuter rail lines, with buses, much to the advantage of bus, tire and petroleum producers if not the American commuter.
NO, rail failed because the we are free to live whereever we want an we have decided to live in single family houses spread out from Farmington to Stacy and western Wisconsin counties to Mound. With MANY people commuting to the cities from St Cloud and Rochester and Spring Valley Wisc and Litchfield.

Many people drive a LOT FURTHER THAN THAT, there are people commuting to 3M from Willow River, 100 miles. While I do not feel I would want to drive that far if someone wants the quality of life in Willow River so be it, they are free to do that if the transportation cost fits their budget, we can always car pool to reduce costs significantly.

I know everyone who remembers the trolley cars that supplied transit for St Paul or Mpls and for those days that rail worked well. BUT YOU CANNOT APPLY a trolly car solution that worked for St Paul when there were SMALL towns surrounding St Paul.

Like North Saint Paul with a population of a few thousand to a time when ALL REALESTATE surrounding St Paul is FILLED WITH houses to a distance of 15 miles. And combined suburbun populations are greater than the Cities.

The BEST Minnesota commuting solution is the automobile. It's parked in an attached garage with power door opener. The car is warm and clear of frost and safe, no-one can get into it while in the garage. Ya get into it push a button to open the garage door and drive out to work parking in a company parking lot and a short walk into the employers building. As you know in winter the Minnesota weather is a major challange and parking outside during the day is OK because of the winter sun warms a car.

Another factor in Minnesota mass transit is the lack of a safe ride. Many commuters are chased away from the Bus by the thugs who ride the buses, FACT!!!!

Oh you say, we should just build rail to St Cloud. Well the North Star is built that way and IT DOES NOT SUPPORT ITSELF. So unless the taxpayers have an infinate amount of cash to subsidize all these LONG HAUL COMMUTERS these long haul rail lines WILL NOT WORK!!!

RAIL IS VERY EXPENSIVE, understand the busiest LRT line in Minnesota, the Hiawatha line, costs $30,000,000 a year in subsidies just to keep it running.

God only knows how much the Central Cooridor (CC) will cost to keep running. CLEARLY the CC will cost a LOT MORE than the Hiawatha. Think about it, the CC serves ONLY Mpls and St Paul while the Hiawatha serves Mpls, VA hospital, Air Port and the MOA.
Rob

Minneapolis, MN

#110 Feb 25, 2011
Wasted money wrote:
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NO, rail failed because the we are free to live whereever we want an we have decided to live in single family houses spread out from Farmington to Stacy and western Wisconsin counties to Mound. With MANY people commuting to the cities from St Cloud and Rochester and Spring Valley Wisc and Litchfield.
Many people drive a LOT FURTHER THAN THAT, there are people commuting to 3M from Willow River, 100 miles. While I do not feel I would want to drive that far if someone wants the quality of life in Willow River so be it, they are free to do that if the transportation cost fits their budget, we can always car pool to reduce costs significantly.
I know everyone who remembers the trolley cars that supplied transit for St Paul or Mpls and for those days that rail worked well. BUT YOU CANNOT APPLY a trolly car solution that worked for St Paul when there were SMALL towns surrounding St Paul.
Like North Saint Paul with a population of a few thousand to a time when ALL REALESTATE surrounding St Paul is FILLED WITH houses to a distance of 15 miles. And combined suburbun populations are greater than the Cities.
The BEST Minnesota commuting solution is the automobile. It's parked in an attached garage with power door opener. The car is warm and clear of frost and safe, no-one can get into it while in the garage. Ya get into it push a button to open the garage door and drive out to work parking in a company parking lot and a short walk into the employers building. As you know in winter the Minnesota weather is a major challange and parking outside during the day is OK because of the winter sun warms a car.
Another factor in Minnesota mass transit is the lack of a safe ride. Many commuters are chased away from the Bus by the thugs who ride the buses, FACT!!!!
Oh you say, we should just build rail to St Cloud. Well the North Star is built that way and IT DOES NOT SUPPORT ITSELF. So unless the taxpayers have an infinate amount of cash to subsidize all these LONG HAUL COMMUTERS these long haul rail lines WILL NOT WORK!!!
RAIL IS VERY EXPENSIVE, understand the busiest LRT line in Minnesota, the Hiawatha line, costs $30,000,000 a year in subsidies just to keep it running.
God only knows how much the Central Cooridor (CC) will cost to keep running. CLEARLY the CC will cost a LOT MORE than the Hiawatha. Think about it, the CC serves ONLY Mpls and St Paul while the Hiawatha serves Mpls, VA hospital, Air Port and the MOA.
And how much in subsidies does it take to run your car?
Wasted money

Minneapolis, MN

#111 Feb 25, 2011
Rob wrote:
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And how much in subsidies does it take to run your car?
You tell me.

I can tell you the Hiawatha takes $30,000,000 a year to keep it running.

I can tell you the MVST (Motor Vehicle Sales Tax) goes into mass transit, NOT TO ROADS.

I can tell you Government NEVER produces accurate numbers on how much money comes from vehicle operations and goes to NON-ROADS.

For example the Gateway trail is built and maintained using MnDOT equipment, labor and management. Do bikers pay anything? I'll take a shot at that answer, PHOCK NO!!!!!
Rob

Minneapolis, MN

#112 Feb 26, 2011
Wasted money wrote:
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You tell me.
I can tell you the Hiawatha takes $30,000,000 a year to keep it running.
I can tell you the MVST (Motor Vehicle Sales Tax) goes into mass transit, NOT TO ROADS.
I can tell you Government NEVER produces accurate numbers on how much money comes from vehicle operations and goes to NON-ROADS.
For example the Gateway trail is built and maintained using MnDOT equipment, labor and management. Do bikers pay anything? I'll take a shot at that answer, PHOCK NO!!!!!
Just like auto-jockeys like yourself can never quite answer the question of how much your daily car commute is subsidIzed, to the tune of billions of dollars per year. Funny that...
Wasted money

Minneapolis, MN

#113 Feb 26, 2011
Rob wrote:
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Just like auto-jockeys like yourself can never quite answer the question of how much your daily car commute is subsidIzed, to the tune of billions of dollars per year. Funny that...
You provide an accurate beliveable report from the government that quantifies the amount of money derived from auto/truck taxes and where the money goes.

IT'S CLEARLY OBVIOUS the Hiawatha sucks $30,000,000 a year from the general fund to keep it operating. And the CC is going to cost probably $100,000,000 a year to operate it.

Notice the Government NEVER produces the cost of operating the highways and the value of all the automobile and truck taxes. Do They? They do admit the MVST is dedicated to mass transit NOT ROADS USED BY MVs.

Don't forget roads and highways are used to provide products and services to those of you riding a bike. So those roads paid for with car/truck taxes PAY FOR YOUR INFRASTUCTURE!!!!

I would suggest you "Think About It", but question your capacity.
Rob

Minneapolis, MN

#114 Feb 27, 2011
Wasted money wrote:
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You provide an accurate beliveable report from the government that quantifies the amount of money derived from auto/truck taxes and where the money goes.
IT'S CLEARLY OBVIOUS the Hiawatha sucks $30,000,000 a year from the general fund to keep it operating. And the CC is going to cost probably $100,000,000 a year to operate it.
Notice the Government NEVER produces the cost of operating the highways and the value of all the automobile and truck taxes. Do They? They do admit the MVST is dedicated to mass transit NOT ROADS USED BY MVs.
Don't forget roads and highways are used to provide products and services to those of you riding a bike. So those roads paid for with car/truck taxes PAY FOR YOUR INFRASTUCTURE!!!!
I would suggest you "Think About It", but question your capacity.
I'm trying to figure out why I should care if road taxes go to pay for railROAD or bike trails, other than to be happy that alternate forms of transportation are being subsidized. I guess you feel that is somehow unfair. I can't agree. I think it should make people want to get out of their gas guzzlers. I doubt the funding scheme will change anytime soon, so perhaps you should look into the nearest bike path and start cycling to work. Best of luck.
Wasted money

Saint Paul, MN

#115 Feb 27, 2011
Rob wrote:
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I'm trying to figure out why I should care if road taxes go to pay for railROAD or bike trails, other than to be happy that alternate forms of transportation are being subsidized. I guess you feel that is somehow unfair. I can't agree. I think it should make people want to get out of their gas guzzlers. I doubt the funding scheme will change anytime soon, so perhaps you should look into the nearest bike path and start cycling to work. Best of luck.
Ya, Bike to work along with all the thousands of other bikers.

Living in Oakdale I took at look at the bike tracks in the snow at the end of last week. There were 4 (FOUR) tracks on the BILLION DOLLAR GATEWAY TRAIL!!!

BIG WASTE OF MONEY!
Thanks Wiger and Lillie

Minneapolis, MN

#116 Feb 28, 2011
Our state elected officials are a total failure!

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