The $55M playground

The $55M playground

There are 251 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Apr 8, 2007, titled The $55M playground. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Think of the Monon Center at Central Park as a playground and a community center on steroids.

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Gary

Indianapolis, IN

#1 Apr 8, 2007
WOW. park looks great. Its something when a city can spend 55 million on a park, yet this state leads the county in fore closed homes and child abuse crimes. To think of all that money that actually could of went to other things to help people in need and sponsor programs to protect children from abuse. Yet another great Idea from this great state and the highly intelligent people who make decisions that effect our future.
Thanx Indiana glad I moved here from out of state.
Carmel-Clay Resident

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Apr 8, 2007
Imagine all of this - and just in time for Brainard to receive praise - just right before the election - I glad that my tax dollars are not paying for this boon dogle - oh, wait - they are!

How much extra were the contractors paid to have the project done - just in time for the election?

Stay tuned to channel 16, I am sure we will be seeing the ribbon cutting ceremony - probably hourly - as a public service announcemnt - of course.

Good job Stakeholder.com .
I love Carmel Indiana

Lima, OH

#3 Apr 8, 2007
I love this city. It is clean, cheap to live in, customer service at area stores is great and the people are friendly. Our family loves spending time together at the various Carmel parks. Can not wait for this amazing park to open! Thank you to everyone who made this new gem of a park happen in the wonderful city of Carmel, Indiana!
Rick in Avon

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Apr 8, 2007
I had to stop reading...it was making me sick. Always "over the top" in Carmel. 55 million?
P.S. not jealous, just frugal

Class of "79
Shaking Head

Peru, IN

#5 Apr 8, 2007
Carmel-Clay Resident wrote:
Imagine all of this - and just in time for Brainard to receive praise - just right before the election - I glad that my tax dollars are not paying for this boon dogle - oh, wait - they are!
The price of one party rule I suppose. The irony is that the one party they have is supposed to be the party of smaller govt. and lower taxes. If I lived there I wouldn't be so angry about the tax increase, if I had a $200,000 home I could probably afford the hit. What would really bug me is I am paying the extra taxes and I would still have to pay to use the facilities.
whocares

Delaware, OH

#6 Apr 8, 2007
They haven't covered the ongoing expenses yet, wait for the next tax increase. Of course Mayor James the first can slough that off since it's "the township" that did it not Carmel. But wait, isn't he taking credit for it now? What a politician. And as to party, democrat in Republican clothing.
Jay

United States

#7 Apr 8, 2007
Carmel's bonded indebtedness exceeds the constitutional maximum of 2% of valuation.
Herb

Avon, IN

#8 Apr 8, 2007
Opening postponed indefinitely? Great.
OhLord

Newport, KY

#9 Apr 8, 2007
Boy I'm glad I am not funding this one. Not through taxes or future facility use. At least it will employee some part time people.
Max

United States

#12 Apr 8, 2007
I, for one, appreciate the contribution Mayor Brainard has made to Carmel. I've lived here for 23 years and have seen the tremendous improvements in our infrastructure and resources. The value of these improvements are certainly worth the modest property taxes. I think the future generations will thank this current adminstration for their vision and gifts to them.
Jay

United States

#13 Apr 8, 2007
"Nonresidents will pay higher fees" - this means people of color.

Same reason the Children's Museum charges admission even though they do not need the money - keep the black kids from the neighborhood out.
Mike Kole

Burlington, KY

#14 Apr 8, 2007
This should be the kind of thing undertaken by private enterprise, not a municipal government.

In addition to the taxes paying for it, residents then have to pay $5-8 to use? That's insult to injury.
first thought

AOL

#15 Apr 8, 2007
I live in Carmel and love it. I won't use the park much but I would prefer to pay for that and let the homeless get a job and parents feed their hungry children. If their parents want to beat them dont spend my money on telling them to please stop. I hope the property taxes keep going up so the pathetic people your describing will stay out of our great town. You ask if "they" are going to build a park why Carmel. "They" is Carmel. We don't ask for your money to spend on us, so don't ask for ours to spend on your liberal programs that don't work. Instead of being jealous, come join us here in Carmel. Or don't you want to be happy?
first thought

AOL

#16 Apr 8, 2007
Jay wrote:
"Nonresidents will pay higher fees" - this means people of color.
Same reason the Children's Museum charges admission even though they do not need the money - keep the black kids from the neighborhood out.
No it doesn't. It means OUR property taxes pays for it not yours. Why should you get to use it for free? Oh, I forgot, that's how you guys think.
first thought

AOL

#17 Apr 8, 2007
Jay wrote:
Carmel's bonded indebtedness exceeds the constitutional maximum of 2% of valuation.
We don't care. We'll pay for it.
first thought

AOL

#18 Apr 8, 2007
Rick in Avon wrote:
I had to stop reading...it was making me sick. Always "over the top" in Carmel. 55 million?
P.S. not jealous, just frugal
Class of "79
Then please stay in Avon. Life is short.
Monon Trail User

Noblesville, IN

#19 Apr 8, 2007
Only in Carmel would you see a bunch of trees cut down to make a "park". Thanks for ruining the Monon Trail.
Naris

United States

#20 Apr 8, 2007
Jay wrote:
"Nonresidents will pay higher fees" - this means people of color.
Same reason the Children's Museum charges admission even though they do not need the money - keep the black kids from the neighborhood out.
I pretty sure that there are a few white people that don't live in Carmel. Also, the Children's Museum offers several free admission days throughout the year. Perhaps they should turn it into a big day care facility without any charge and stop paying their hundreds of employees.

JYW

Since: Mar 07

Delaware, OH

#21 Apr 8, 2007
People can whine about Carmel building this park when there are homeless people, etc. The reality, again, is that Carmel is the crowned jewel of the Indianapolis area and needs to compete with some very attractive cities in the US for the talented, educated, cognitive elite needed for companies like Wellpoint, Lilly, etc.

The raison d'etre for Carmel and projects like this is not to compete with cities like Austin, SF, NY/NJ area, etc. for the "black kids from the neighborhood" -- those will always be around, and that's fine. Carmel is competing for the Pharmacology PhD from, say, University of Michigan. Projects like this are important to those people when selecting which company to go work for.

It is by attracting the PhDs that the "black kids from the neighborhood" are eventually helped as higher paying jobs are created, entrepreneurs bloom, etc.
Resident

United States

#23 Apr 8, 2007
I grew up in a rural area in a household a less than moderate income. I had to work 2 jobs in college and take out loans since my parents couldn't afford it. Over the last 15 years, I have worked very hard to get to a point where I can afford a $400,000 home in Carmel and pay the taxes and fees associated with living here.

I also pay state and federal taxes which fund programs that benefit those in need in an outside of Carmel.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with choosing to live in an area where you can have nice things. I didn't work this hard just to take care of everybody else. Some of my hard work has to benefit me.

If you were me you would feel the same way.

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