US files lawsuit over jail conditions

US files lawsuit over jail conditions

There are 93 comments on the WIVB-TV Buffalo story from Sep 30, 2009, titled US files lawsuit over jail conditions. In it, WIVB-TV Buffalo reports that:

The United States has filed a lawsuit alleging that conditions at the Erie County Holding Center, a pre-trial detention center in Buffalo, N.Y., and the Erie County Correctional Facility, a correctional facility in Alden, N.Y, routinely and systematically deprive inmates of constitutional rights, the Justice Department announced.

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fed up

Tonawanda, NY

#1 Sep 30, 2009
Wonder how Collins will spin this as part of his manage the county like a business plan.
stop already

Tonawanda, NY

#2 Sep 30, 2009
How much is Collins going to cost us with this one?
Collins Shows Himself

Lancaster, NY

#3 Oct 1, 2009
stop already wrote:
How much is Collins going to cost us with this one?
I was REALLY bothered by the "Erie County Attorney",
a VERY CLOSE approximation of a FORMER Federal
Employee named GOODLANDER, when she spoke several
times over the last four months about the
"frivolous" requests by the Civil Rights Division of
the US Dept. of Justice to view the Holding Center
and HER characterizations of the DOJ. HER
opinions and attitude are apparently also held by
her BOSS, County Executive Collins.
Speaking of her BOSS, in a PRESS CONFERENCE that
;he held yesterday, he spoke of the "LIBERAL
VIEWS" of the Department of Justice...he also
spoke of the County of Erie not going to provide
prisoners with hotel service and several other
statements that REALLY CHARACTERIZE HIS IDEAS ON
THE RIGHTS OF PRISONERS.
The bottom line with these people and their out
of step ideas with the laws of the land(AND I
DON'T MEAN JUST CRIMINAL LAWS) is that they will
END UP COSTING YOU AND ME MONEY.
They will lose any CASE brought against the
County of Erie regarding MINIMUM STANDARDS at the
holding center.
The County has gone down this road BEFORE and
LOST....ARROGANCE AND PIQUE, while appealing to
a PORTION of the electorate of this county, will
not WIN YOUR CASE in State Court or before the
Federal Bench.
Simple rules enforced at the Holding Center
regarding basic rights of the Holding Center
inmates, which are GUARANTEED BY LAW, would
serve to protect the County from legal action
that we now face.
You don't allow screw ups, cover it up and then
THUMB YOUR NOSE at the DOJ, the US Attorney and
the NYS Commissioner of Corrections.
Why wave a RED FLAG at the Bull? Collins and his
legal lap dog are NUTS.

And THEY will cost us MONEY.
The County Government

Buffalo, NY

#4 Oct 1, 2009
The above writer is so accurate!
I was employed where I had daily contact with the detainees from the holding ctr....but not a county employee.
These detainees were denied medical care routinely and forced to request the court to demand they receive attention.

Many judges listened and never took action to see why the court had to demand medical attention on jail committments for those that were concerned enough to ask the court to intercede... so this ordinary medical care request became a regular action that the COURT took for the past 20 yrs to alleviate the neglect of ERIE COUNTY HOLDING CTR.
I have no agenda with the county in my desire to express to the public the facts as I know them and as they are contrary to the beady and shifty eyed county executive who is sadly and politically..... blaming liberal politics and the desire for hotel accomadations by detainees.

The truth is so much more that I observed and Collins' attempt at a response is only to garner the typical anger most people have against the arrested...and his complete avoidance of the facts that all humans need to have the basic needs...wherever they reside in our free and benevolent...UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!
JTMan

United States

#5 Oct 1, 2009
Boo Hoo, they mistreated meeeeeeee...

Don't get in trouble and you won't have to go there. Holding centers and prison are supposed to be a deterrent!!

And before you even say, well they haven't been convicted of anything yet. Too bad!!! When Scott Peterson was put in prison BEFORE his trial he was shackled and deprived many things including his freedom. Did you complain then? NO! In most prisons, the prisoners have a better life than a lot of people on the street. They commit crimes and they get 3 meals a day, free TV, clothing and many other things. This has become a nation of PUSSIES!! Criminals should be treated as such, take away all their rights when they are locked up.

You scumbag Liberal DemocRATS make me sick!
Kati

Champaign, IL

#6 Oct 1, 2009
I was with you until the name calling that was not needed at the end.
wake up

Lancaster, NY

#7 Oct 1, 2009
of course this is politicly motivated, let'em bring their own dam soap if they're locked up, it's not supposed to be a hotel. no wonder we're going broke, between the welfare and the scumbags being locked up!
I Hate Dumb People

Lancaster, NY

#8 Oct 1, 2009
The following was written by an ignorant moron,
you know the type that Collins is catering to
with his silly comments, ignoring that this is
not a new issue and WE(the people of the County
of Erie) lost in court about this before:
JTMan wrote:
Boo Hoo, they mistreated meeeeeeee...
Don't get in trouble and you won't have to go there. Holding centers and prison are supposed to be a deterrent!!
And before you even say, well they haven't been convicted of anything yet. Too bad!!! When Scott Peterson was put in prison BEFORE his trial he was shackled and deprived many things including his freedom. Did you complain then? NO! In most prisons, the prisoners have a better life than a lot of people on the street. They commit crimes and they get 3 meals a day, free TV, clothing and many other things. This has become a nation of PUSSIES!! Criminals should be treated as such, take away all their rights when they are locked up.
You scumbag Liberal DemocRATS make me sick!
You're such a fool....this is not about POLITICAL
PARTIES Bozo...it's about BASIC NEEDS AND RIGHTS
THAT PRISONERS are due.
If you don't provide them...YOU'RE IN VIOLATION
OF THE LAW.

Go back to school nerf ball.
punK

Buffalo, NY

#9 Oct 1, 2009
please - no more 'we are not the hilton'.
no shyt. that comment seems to be the only defense
any of those a-holes use.
the holding center is soooo important the justice dept. has nothing better to do? please. the place is a disgusting mess. the leadership is disgusting. howard and complany should be jailed themselves.
no howard, not in november, not EVER!
JTMan

United States

#10 Oct 1, 2009
I Hate Dumb People wrote:
The following was written by an ignorant moron,
you know the type that Collins is catering to
with his silly comments, ignoring that this is
not a new issue and WE(the people of the County
of Erie) lost in court about this before:
<quoted text>
You're such a fool....this is not about POLITICAL
PARTIES Bozo...it's about BASIC NEEDS AND RIGHTS
THAT PRISONERS are due.
If you don't provide them...YOU'RE IN VIOLATION
OF THE LAW.
Go back to school nerf ball.
Sorry your feelings got hurt. Maybe if you had done something in your life to help this country other than post on a forum or collect your welfare check I might give your comments more consideration. Until that happens you and your kind are nothing more than liberal scum!!

I will be happy to vote for Howard and anyone else who makes the lives of prisoners hell!!!
JTMan

United States

#11 Oct 1, 2009
punK wrote:
please - no more 'we are not the hilton'.
no shyt. that comment seems to be the only defense
any of those a-holes use.
the holding center is soooo important the justice dept. has nothing better to do? please. the place is a disgusting mess. the leadership is disgusting. howard and complany should be jailed themselves.
no howard, not in november, not EVER!
Do something about it then. Run for sheriff yourself and fix this so called problem. The DOJ will lose this battle and I suspect with all the dirty Libs in office today that Erie County is not the only only county being taken to court.
Hammer

Port Neches, TX

#12 Oct 1, 2009
punK wrote:
please - no more 'we are not the hilton'.
no shyt. that comment seems to be the only defense
any of those a-holes use.
the holding center is soooo important the justice dept. has nothing better to do? please. the place is a disgusting mess. the leadership is disgusting. howard and complany should be jailed themselves.
no howard, not in november, not EVER!
How do you know this?
I Hate Dumb People

Lancaster, NY

#13 Oct 1, 2009
JTMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Do something about it then. Run for sheriff yourself and fix this so called problem. The DOJ will lose this battle and I suspect with all the dirty Libs in office today that Erie County is not the only only county being taken to court.
You're still a moron.
You obviously know nothing about the law.
You are easily led.
YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE that what the County Attorney
and the County Executive state about the situation
is a true assessment and the right way to go.

Me?

I just will let time go by and watch the County
Attorney and the County Executive LOSE ANOTHER
ONE...and watch you make more of a fool of
yourself.
sweaty

Buffalo, NY

#15 Oct 1, 2009
It seems that jt 'man" must identify himself as a man..because he is not sure he is one..otherwise we would all need to refer to ourselves...as sweaty man....or hammer girl..or you know....whatever we are sexually or politically.
People in his world make mistakes...including the family members of jt man. Yes...mistakes are what make us human and if those mistakes happen to bring us to the cruddy holding ctr...then hopefully the bare minimum amenities will be afforded to us.
Collins is arrogant and apparently has had no relatives arrested...yet......the so perfect Collins family...or he would have empathy and compassion...2 qualities that make a person....a man...or a woman..and they won;t have to identify themselves as such... so the world knows it on a forum.
I truly hope that the holding ctr is cited and found culpable....and you jt etc will have to pay out for all the lawsuits...and it freaks you out.
Perfect people have breakdowns and often then turn to crime to cope...your future ...enjoy the lockup.
earthman

Livonia Center, NY

#16 Oct 1, 2009
as if western ny and erie county don't have enough problems, now Bambi and his county attorney are pissing off the feds even more. some of these local cronies need to realize the days of running the county from a bar stool on elmwood are over. for a guy who's eyes are so big, he can't see sh-t!!
hammerslammer

Buffalo, NY

#17 Oct 1, 2009
Jt - who cares how I know this? either as an inmate or an employee, I know. Sorry, that's gonna have to be good enough for you.
It is largely true. Some of it is sensansionalistic (deps wagering on inmate cockfights - UNTRUE) but much of the reports are spot on. The coc AND the doj are concentrating
on the wrong issues.
The fr i g-ging place is dangerous. To breathe.
Inmates, Deps, we are breathing the same disgusting crud. As an inmate or Deputy, I fully expect my life to be cut 10 years short. Why?
County payoffs. The inspectors work for the county, and Collins, with his sik sigma wahatever,
will give him a pass on EVERY inspection.
Can someone out there help put them in here with us? Death comes early for some. That is not right.
bad air

East Amherst, NY

#18 Oct 2, 2009
a lot of jobs involve 'bad air'...your garbage man and operators at the garbage dump, dust and dirt and blacktop fumes on road jobs, sewage treatment plant workers, farmers with all the fertilizer chemicals, welders and grinders, foundry workers, old folks homes, and not to forget the worst air,- Hospitals!...with all that disease floating around
Blithering Idiot

Buffalo, NY

#19 Oct 2, 2009
Just close it down.

let the state figure out where to sent inmates.

if the DOJ doesnt like how EC runs it, screw them. they win.

layoff all the employees and shut it down.

play hardball.
gump

Auburn, ME

#20 Oct 2, 2009
hammerslammer wrote:
Jt - who cares how I know this? either as an inmate or an employee, I know. Sorry, that's gonna have to be good enough for you.
It is largely true. Some of it is sensansionalistic (deps wagering on inmate cockfights - UNTRUE) but much of the reports are spot on. The coc AND the doj are concentrating
on the wrong issues.
The fr i g-ging place is dangerous. To breathe.
Inmates, Deps, we are breathing the same disgusting crud. As an inmate or Deputy, I fully expect my life to be cut 10 years short. Why?
County payoffs. The inspectors work for the county, and Collins, with his sik sigma wahatever,
will give him a pass on EVERY inspection.
Can someone out there help put them in here with us? Death comes early for some. That is not right.
MORE OF PUNK disgised as hammerslammer.
gump

Auburn, ME

#21 Oct 2, 2009
sweaty wrote:
It seems that jt 'man" must identify himself as a man..because he is not sure he is one..otherwise we would all need to refer to ourselves...as sweaty man....or hammer girl..or you know....whatever we are sexually or politically.
People in his world make mistakes...including the family members of jt man. Yes...mistakes are what make us human and if those mistakes happen to bring us to the cruddy holding ctr...then hopefully the bare minimum amenities will be afforded to us.
Collins is arrogant and apparently has had no relatives arrested...yet......the so perfect Collins family...or he would have empathy and compassion...2 qualities that make a person....a man...or a woman..and they won;t have to identify themselves as such... so the world knows it on a forum.
I truly hope that the holding ctr is cited and found culpable....and you jt etc will have to pay out for all the lawsuits...and it freaks you out.
Perfect people have breakdowns and often then turn to crime to cope...your future ...enjoy the lockup.
POST something constructive instead of your JABBAR JABBER STYOUPID.

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