Bridge's ruins will be torn down

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Girard Township supervisors have selected a Conneaut, Ohio, company to demolish the ruins of the Gudgeonville covered bridge, which was heavily damaged by arson in November. Full Story
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Roger

Gibsonia, PA

#1 Jan 6, 2009
I hope they hang these two jerks who think that burning the bridge was fun. Rot in hell.
BurnThem

Erie, PA

#2 Jan 6, 2009
I know the Gleason kid. Nothing but a punk ass kid. Lets burn you alive "just for fun".
allahbunchacrap

Deerfield Beach, FL

#3 Jan 6, 2009
lets charge the full 33,620 dollars to the families of the arsonists-take their houses, land, bank accounts, vehicles, pensions, anything these families have of value to reimburse the cost of tearing down this structure.Or- just charge it to the taxpayers. You people hardly pay any tax as it is, so it woudnt hurt.
mrkihn

Chambersburg, PA

#4 Jan 6, 2009
I guess the rather give jobs to people in another state than have some one in the area do it. We do have several companies in Erie area who could do the job. Lets keep our own employed first.
joe

Erie, PA

#5 Jan 6, 2009
i loved the bridge.
and i hate to see it being torn down,
My Name

Hollidaysburg, PA

#6 Jan 6, 2009
I hope they rebuild it just exactly the way it was before using the same tools and materials that were used to construct originially.
Rider Kat

Mercer, PA

#7 Jan 6, 2009
mrkihn wrote:
I guess the rather give jobs to people in another state than have some one in the area do it. We do have several companies in Erie area who could do the job. Lets keep our own employed first.
That is a good thought but seeing how Conneaut is so close to the border half the people may come from PA that work there. Plenty of folks border hop to go to work and for many years I worked in Kingsville Oh. I am glad they didn't see things this way and hire someone that lived in Ohio over me. I am a transplant from Oh. and we have neighbors who commute to Ohio for work... People are glad to have jobs no matter where they have to drive to.
maybe this company will HIRE local people to help and I doubt it will be a long project in any case.. what a week or two to take it apart?
Name

Kutztown, PA

#8 Jan 6, 2009
The kids should pay for demolition and rebuild. I don't care if it takes them the rest of their lives at $200 per month, they should still have to pay for it.
lou schwartz

United States

#9 Jan 6, 2009
i feel it should be given historical protection and make it a shrine to the mushrooming population of underclass and criminals in the USA... the vandals who did this are becoming the norm in our once great country.
Azure

Chesapeake, VA

#10 Jan 6, 2009
I remember going to the bridge as a teen & having wonderful memories of that area. I moved away from Erie but every trip back the bridge was always on the "do" list. I was so saddened by the vandalism that occurred there over the years, but glad I have pics of the bridge before all the garbage got painted on it!
I strongly agree that those punks should pay for it & not get out of prison til every cent is paid!( Wonder what making license plates pays these days?)
Bridgewright

Portsmouth, NH

#11 Jan 6, 2009
No mention in the article of documenting the original, before it torn to pieces.

How do you replicate the original details, when they are lost forever ?
NO structure

Pittsburgh, PA

#12 Jan 14, 2009
Just a few comments. I think the bridge should be rebuilt in wood, more like the one in Conneaut so its still passable for plows etc. They are still beautiful. Whats gone is gone, but it can be done respectfully and still beautiful. And there should be made a historical site about the bridge there, and old pictures and history about what stood before on a nice monumental type area to the side.(And maybe a quick blip with the names of these youth so they can be humiliated for all time.)
2nd i think its total bullshit that we let other states come in and even bid on these jobs. i worked at a hotel last summer where the people, from Cleveland Concrete i beleive it was, worked on the convention center. they said they were the lower bid, so instead of employing our own erie county residents which may have helped our OWN unemployment issues, to build the convention center and parking garage. This cleveland place under bid so far, that not only could they pay and bring workers over cheaper, but could afford to put them up in a hotel the whole time they were doing it. and it was all spring, summer and partial fall. so basically, the erie workers were expecting they deserved more, over bid the job, and lost, and the god damned erie county council that we VOTE for i might add, allowed to give this job to Ohesians (ohio people).

This "project" of tearing down a beautiful restaurant called the waterfront, one of the few in erie county where you could actually eat and see the water, was torn down, and then said how many "many more jobs" it would give erie people with this going up, and here they let Cleveland ohio people come in and do it.
The lowest pa bid should have been taken or made to match the ohio builders, and given back to our own economy right here in OUR TOWN.
and i think its terrible that every other lake front, lake shore or ocean front town uses their water and beaches and properties to advantages of enjoyment, beauty, little stores and restaurants and boardwalks and bars where people get to view the beauty and enjoy it, etc, and we use ours for a F*cking parking garage and tear out something beautiful. and a bunch of business's that pollute our water, violate the rules, and then dont pay the fine but dont get shut down (ERIE COKE) you money hungry polluting bastards, get to further continue to pollute and take up areas that could be enjoyment of our natural and beautitul lake.
Sorry , this country sometimes just pisses me off. just would like to see our own back yard get cleaned up, but these crooked politians and lawyers who let this stuff happen will probably be the same ones who get these punks with no respect for the bridge and for american history off or lightened sentences for burning the bridge down.
The high and mighty are really just trash, all dressed up in suits!

“Enjoying the sunshine ”

Since: Nov 08

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#13 Jan 14, 2009
Bridgewright wrote:
No mention in the article of documenting the original, before it torn to pieces.
How do you replicate the original details, when they are lost forever ?
I heard they were going with a concrete beam bridge this time and possibly using the salvagable materials from the bridge structure for a project at a later date.
Maybe someone who was actually at the meeting could clue us in..
All we are basically getting is hearsay.
Bridgewright

Portsmouth, NH

#14 Jan 14, 2009
No Structure –

I can sympathize with the “always local” sentiment for paving or demo or even concrete and steel bridges…

But not for traditional Covered Bridge projects, they require special tooling and a special skill set, one which is no longer common. Prequalifying and limiting bidders to those with a long resume of prior experience in such work is far more important than where the bidder calls home. Which is not to say that Pa. doesn’t have a handful of folks with that experience.

I’ve worked on CB’s in a number of states, and bid on such projects in several others. Sometimes watching those contracts go to wholly unqualified low bidders, always with hapless, sometimes pathetic results.

And you never want to describe a bridges structure as pathetic.

The next project is in Maryland, which does prequalify their bidders, and will be done in alliance with a general out of Pa.

And again locals need to be asking the powers that be if there are plans in the works to No-Char The Sherman Covered Bridge – There’s Fed grant money for fire suppression, it just needs chasing.
NO structure

Pittsburgh, PA

#15 Jan 15, 2009
Bridgewright wrote:
No Structure –
I can sympathize with the “always local” sentiment for paving or demo or even concrete and steel bridges…
But not for traditional Covered Bridge projects, they require special tooling and a special skill set, one which is no longer common. Prequalifying and limiting bidders to those with a long resume of prior experience in such work is far more important than where the bidder calls home. Which is not to say that Pa. doesn’t have a handful of folks with that experience.
I’ve worked on CB’s in a number of states, and bid on such projects in several others. Sometimes watching those contracts go to wholly unqualified low bidders, always with hapless, sometimes pathetic results.
And you never want to describe a bridges structure as pathetic.
The next project is in Maryland, which does prequalify their bidders, and will be done in alliance with a general out of Pa.
And again locals need to be asking the powers that be if there are plans in the works to No-Char The Sherman Covered Bridge – There’s Fed grant money for fire suppression, it just needs chasing.
I did not call any bridge structure pathetic??? And im sure there is a certain skill set for covered bridges, but also am sure there is more than one person in pa that can do it. if pa is footing the bill, then pa builders need only bid for the sake of our own states economy. I beleive it is important that the skill comes from a skilled worker, and one in our state only.

And what i said was when our county council gives their bs on how its going to put money back into erie county by having the structures built, as in the CONVENTION CENTER, then they should not be back dooring and allowing cleveland concrete to come in and get the work. lots of people think our own local construction co built that, but in fact un true.

and the other bridge? are you speaking of Carmen Bridge?
Bridgewright

Portsmouth, NH

#16 Jan 15, 2009
NO structure wrote:
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I did not call any bridge structure pathetic???
and the other bridge? are you speaking of Carmen Bridge?
No, and I did not suggest you did.

I did - I called the work executed on CB's nation wide by the unqualified, pathetic.

I've looked at hundreds and bad work is more common than good. The reason being is that it is not the kind of thing that can be, just figured out, you can't wing it.

And I acknowledged that there are capable Pennsylvanians.

I have no opinion regarding any convention center.

Bridge projects are typically 80/20 money twice over 80 Fed 20 state 80 state 20 cty/twp, if Fed monies are accepted does that not mean that I am helping fund projects out your way, like you're helping fund the CB I'll soon be working on in Maryland. In the end it all comes out in the wash.

The other bridge, no not the Carmen, that's thirteen years gone, though likewise there was talk of replicating it also. As I named it The Sherman (aka The Harrington and/or Keepville), the last of the Multiple Kings framed by the same bridgewright, Wm Sherman.

http://www.bridges-covered.com/nw_pa.html

The Carmen / lost to fire - Gudgeonville / lost to fire - The Sherman / needs to be NoChar'ed

http://www.prginc.com/Finishes/nochar.html
Roy

Erie, PA

#17 Jan 23, 2009
allahbunchacrap wrote:
lets charge the full 33,620 dollars to the families of the arsonists-take their houses, land, bank accounts, vehicles, pensions, anything these families have of value to reimburse the cost of tearing down this structure.Or- just charge it to the taxpayers. You people hardly pay any tax as it is, so it woudnt hurt.
Charge the family of 20+ yr olds with the crimes they committed? They weren't children. Thats like saying hey 50 yr old since you beat your wife, we're making mom pay.. And we'll make you get a tattoo on your arm that says mom... Yeesh!

Makes these boys pay for there crimes! One of the boys was married ~ I wouldn't doubt that she knew about everything! If you can tell on your co-conspirator in jail, then I am sure the wife knew!!
I say bring her in for questioning!!!
Bridge Benefit

Erie, PA

#18 Jan 25, 2009
On May 30, 2009 Gudge Life and G.Y. Productions in association with the Erie County Historical Society will bring you ROCK THE BRIDGE!! This benefit will be an outdoor concert event held at the Edinboro-McKean VFW on Rt.98, just outside Edinboro, PA in Franklin Township.

The event will boast nine live musical acts on two seperate stages. There will be an on-site art exhibit, representatives from various paranormal studies groups, and historical information booths.
The event will be an all-ages event; however, you must show valid I.D. to be permitted on site. All legal beverages will be available for purchase (soda, water, draft beer) along with both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food items. Admission will be $5 minimum donation. Children under 12 admitted free.

All proceeds from admission will be used to establish and maintain an interactive, educational website ( www.gudgeonvillebridge.com ) designed to educate visitors on the bridge's history. Proceeds will also go towards helping the Girard Township erect a permanent walkway in one of our local parks, constructed out of salvageable timbers from the bridge itself.

We hope this benefit will be a successful one and encourage anyone whose life has been touched by the Gudgeonville Bridge to please plan on attending this stellar event on May 30th!!

for more info check out www.myspace.com/gudgelife or look up Gudgeonville Bridge Benefit or Rock The Bridge! on Facebook...
Bridge plans

Erie, PA

#19 Jan 25, 2009
Ryan Bartosek of Franklin Township, PA here. Gudge Life Productions is my company and I'm head of the Gudgeonville Bridge Benefit, i.e. Rock The Bridge. Sandra, one of the Girard Township supervisors is on our board and here's what I can tell you about the future of the actual bridge site:

PennDOT is paying for the new bridge to be reconstructed and it *WILL* be a wooden/covered brige. The main supports will be steel and concrete and it will be wide enough (possibly 2 lanes) so snow plows and emergency vehicles can get through. It will be built out of modern flame retardant wood, that also allows spray paint to be cleaned off easily.

Furthermore, the replica/walkway the Township is building that our benefit is supporting has several proposed locations, the main one being Community Park in Lake City, PA.

if you want more info or info about our benefit check out our myspace page or email me ryan_bartosek@yahoo.com
sparty

Erie, PA

#20 Jan 25, 2009
The amish could rebuild it in a couple of days turn them loose

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