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“Think Feel Speak”
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Willits
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slingshot wrote: <quoted text> This is nothing new. several of the states that are cannibis legal are only legal for research, none of which is taking place thanks to roadblocks by the feds. See,the fed's one shot at making a proprietary drug from MJ wasn't nearly as good as the real thing and the only way they (the feds) can make money off MJ is by keeping it illegal. So many tales in this county of fokls getting popped with Xlbs but low and behold when they get to court the paperwork says less than Xlbs. Where's those other lbs? Paying for some LEO's vacation timeshare. Liza was right:MONEY makes ze world go round. aint that the truth.... If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom, and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too. -W. Somerset Maugham
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fpgonzo
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Sounds like an argument for Prop B to me!
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“Think Feel Speak”
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Willits
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if thats how you want to take it,,, thats one of your freedoms....almost any message can be interpreted the way the listener wants to hear it... vote B if you want, vote no if you dont...B will affect the people already following the law, not the ones who aren't.
"America's Constitution did not mention freedom of enterprise per se, but it did set up a system of laws to secure individual liberty and freedom of choice in keeping with Creator-endowed natural rights. Out of these, free enterprise flourished naturally. Even though the words "free enterprise' are not in the Constitution, the concept was uppermost in the minds of the Founders, typified by the remarks of Jefferson and Madison as quoted above. Already, in 1787, Americans were enjoying the rewards of individual enterprise and free markets. Their dedication was to securing that freedom for posterity.
The learned men drafting America's Constitution understood history - mankind's struggle against poverty and government oppression. And they had studied the ideas of the great thinkers and philosophers. They were familiar with the near starvation of the early Jamestown settlers under a communal production and distribution system and Governor Bradford's diary account of how all benefited after agreement that each family could do as it wished with the fruits of its own labors. Later, in 1776, Adam Smith's INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS and Say's POLITICAL ECONOMY had come at just the right time and were perfectly compatible with the Founders' own passion for individual liberty. Jefferson said these were the best books to be had for forming governments based on principles of freedom. They saw a free market economy as the natural result of their ideal of liberty. They feared concentrations of power and the coercion that planners can use in planning other peoples lives; and they valued freedom of choice and acceptance of responsibility of the consequences of such choice as being the very essence of liberty. They envisioned a large and prosperous republic of free people, unhampered by government interference"
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Mendo_Mary
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National News on MM Marijuana Policy Project http://www.mpp.org U.S. Rep. Barney Frank Introduces Bold Reform of Federal Marijuana Laws http://www.mpp.org/news/press-releases/barney ...
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NO ON B
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"It's a joke. Greed and the desire to take drugs are two separate things. If you want to separate the two, the thing you do is make drugs legal. Accept the reality that people do want to change their consciousness, and make an effort to make safer, healthier drugs."
Jerry Garcia
Rolling Stone
Nov. 30, 1989
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Karen Ann
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You think the sheriff is to blame?
What about the Willits Police Dept?
they wouldn't even take a report that children were endanger of being sold pot at a local shop
nor would they take a hate crime report or a report of a felony mail fraud crime
The FBI and US Postal Inspector are having to do the job for them at a much greater cost
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Watcher
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NO ON B wrote
Kihei, HI Reply »
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"It's a joke. Greed and the desire to take drugs are two separate things.
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Not in Northern California
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HIFCA Tipster Rewards
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Karen Ann wrote: You think the sheriff is to blame?
What about the Willits Police Dept?
they wouldn't even take a report that children were endanger of being sold pot at a local shop
nor would they take a hate crime report or a report of a felony mail fraud crime
The FBI and US Postal Inspector are having to do the job for them at a much greater cost Measure B is a start, but law enforcement needs to be goaded into action. The truth is that all the recent busts were the result of information and tips to the IRS. It is anticipated that over ten million dollars will be awarded to informants based upon tips in Mendocino County this year. You too can eliminate the wound festering in your community and make money at the same time. It is the right thing to do, and forces local police to take action at the risk of elimination of tens of millions of dollars of Federal funding of Mendocino County projects. In conjunction this years Investigation and Prosecution effort in Mendocino, the IRS is offering rewards to informants on those marijuana cultivators evading taxes in violation of the Money Laundering Control Act of 1986 and section 6050 of the Internal Revenue Code. Anonymous tips can be submitted to the IRS High Intensity Money Laundering and Related Financial Crime (HIFCA)Task Force at www.irs.gov/compliance/enforcement . How to claim a reward: IRS Publication 733 details the regulations for claiming a reward. You must complete IRS Form 211. Your information can be delivered personally to any IRS office, or you can write to: Head of the Criminal Investigation Division Internal Revenue Service Washington, DC 20224 If a recovery is made as a direct result of information you provided, you may qualify for a reward of 15% of the amount recovered including taxes, fines and penalties, but not interest -- with a maximum payment of $2 million. If your information was valuable, although not specific, in determining liability, you may be rewarded with as much as 10% of the amount recovered, again with a $2 million cap. If your information was the originating cause of the investigation, but had no direct relationship to the determination of tax liability, the reward is 1% of the amount recovered, again with that $2 million limit. Using an assumed name: If you're not claiming a reward for the information, you can use an assumed name. But if you want to claim a reward, you must use your own name. The IRS is legally prohibited from disclosing the identity of an informer to unauthorized persons outside the Agency. Anonymity is guranteed.
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watcher
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BELOW ARE SOME QUOTES FROM THE YES ON B COALITIONS PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN "WATCHER"aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka LISA MOM OF THREE
"You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are."
"Pot people are violent, greedy and stupid."
99.99% of the pot growers lie about having an illness that is helped by unlimited pot smoking.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only growing a certain number of plants.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about only ending up with a certain amount of pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about not selling any pot.
99.99% of the pot growers lie about being legitimate.
You're right, all pot growers aren't the same, only 99.99% of them are. "
This watcher GUY aka James Kinder aka HIFCA Tipster Rewards aka
"Sorry if I HAVE a problem with a dirtbag laying on his rear end, growing his way to $200,000 in tax free money, while the rest of America works hard and pays their taxes. Meanwhile, said dirtbag is capitalizing on the exploitation of our youth, while posing as a public servant. Don't give me any crappola that growers pay taxes on their grass profits, they DON'T. Yet they cheerfully use our roads, phones and public services, all paid for by honest citizens. Please do not tell me that they are morally equal to hardworking, honest citizens. They are SLIME, HUMAN WASTE, that are in violation of a host of laws including the Money Laundering Act of 1966."
". As for marijuana not being "addictive," tell it to the thousands of screwed up kids seeking help."
"I have a doctorate degree and make $500.00 an hour in a top 10 law firm. "
MEASURE B
LIES LIES AND MORE LIES!
"WATCHER" PAID PUBLIC RELATIONS MAN FROM YES ON B NAZI COALITION!
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Watcher
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ukiahan
apalled in Florida wrote
"I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do."
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Watcher wrote:
Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18.
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ukiahan wrote:
you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination.
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Watcher wrote:
Ukiahan, It really helps to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, no school or teacher has shown the courage to come out and say, "hay we have a drug problem."
Instead it's like dominoes.
First, pot pours into the schools.
Second, pot causes a huge drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate.
Third, because schools get their money from graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut.
Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades.
End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers.
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saundra richards
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if no teachers will come out and say "hay we have a drug problem." where did you find the ones that admitted to doctoring grades to combat marijuana use?
losers, lowlifes, degenerates....all words used by a so called drug counselor.....
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Bud E Greene
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I have been doing some research and have come up with some information that the county might be interested in. Apparently back in the 1990’s Hemp activists failed to get Hemp legalized for commercial use because of two reasons: 1) The Bush Admin. 2) And the Marijuana industry was afraid that because of the pollen factor, Hemp would wipe Marijuana potency out after a few years of Hemp cultivation. What I propose is that since Marijuana is Hemp and Hemp is Marijuana, That research and development of the plant begin as soon as possible. Why nobody in this county is trying to develop products that can be made of Hemp/Marijuana is beyond me.
Here is a few things that can be made from the fibers of the Hemp/Marijuana plant: Accessories: aprons, back packs, bags, belts, caps, eyeglass cases, jewelry, hair ties, hats, hip packs, scarves, shawls, shoe laces, shoes, socks, ties, wallets. Apparel: baby clothes, bathing suits, children's clothes, coats, dresses, jackets, jeans, lingerie, overalls, pants, shirts, shorts, skirts, suits, sweaters. Cosmetics: hair conditioners, lip balms, lotions, massage oils, salves, shampoos, soaps. Foods: beer, burgers, candy, coffees, cheese, cookies, dry cookie and pancake mixes, flour, oil, pretzels, roasted seeds, salad dressing, wine. Household Furnishings: blankets, candles, carpets, coffee filters, dish towels, napkins, placemats, rugs. Paper: art papers, bond, bookmarks, books, cigarette papers, corrugated board, envelopes, invitations, journals, magazines, stationery. Publications: books, magazines, newspapers, research papers. Raw Hemp: bast fiber, batting (tow) & sliver for industry & craft use, hurds, seeds. Services: consulting, Internet support, networking, research & development. Sports Equipment: Plastic goods, hacky sacks, skateboards, snowboards, surfboards. Spun Hemp: cordage, embroidery thread, rope, twine, webbing, yarn. Textiles: hand woven & mill loomed fabrics - blended silks to canvas, various weights & textures, colors, patterns, stripes & plaids; finishing services. Other: animal leashes & collars, dog treats, diesel fuel, drums, tool bags, toys, fiber board.
It took about 15 minutes on the internet to get this information. I also learned that to call a plant a "hemp plant" or a “marijuana plant” is not really correct, hemp and marijuana are both separate parts of one plant; the Cannabis Plant. Hemp being the plant stalk and branches, and Marijuana being the female buds that people smoke.
I hope this gives people something to think about....
Vote No on measure B.
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Watcher
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Truth Seeker is wrong!!!
The American College of Physicians does not support the smoking of marijuana, however it does support continued research of the medical efficacy of THC and cannabinoids.
The AMA states clearly that there is nothing medicinal about smoking anything. Below are quotes from recently released statements by the AMA.
1 “Of comparable or greater concern, are potential adverse effects of cannabinoids and marijuana smoke on the immune, respiratory, cardiovascular, and reproductive systems, and the potential for enhancing carcinogenesis."
2 “In addition to effects attributable to THC, the chronic effects of marijuana smoke are of perhaps greater concern than marijuana’s acute safety profile. Like tobacco, chronic marijuana smoking is associated with lung damage, increased symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and possibly increased risk of lung cancer.”
3 “The AMA recommends that marijuana be retained in Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act.”
One thing to watch out for is the way pro pot people like to play word games when presenting the opinions of others. If a report says that THC has medical benefits in several types of patients, this doesn’t mean that smoking marijuana has medical validity.
Penicillin comes from moldy bread but they are not the same thing, How ever I believe that if moldy bread cost $3,000.00 a pound and got you high, the pot growers would start trying to convince us that it’s penicillin.
The contents of cigarette smoke and pot smoke are over 90% similar. One has nicotine and the other has THC. Both have a long list of toxic carbon compounds and gases plus many known carcinogens. The AMA has stated that it would be extremely hypocritical for it to on the one hand condemn cigarettes and on the other hand condone the smoking of marijuana.
There is nothing medicinal about smoking or eating marijuana. There are numerous and unnecessary poisonous compounds and no dosage control. The benefits of THC have been known for decades. That’s why we have pill form THC,“Marinol”.
The only reason for organic marijuana is for getting high and getting rich. Most of the marijuana that is sold today ends up in the hands of school kids under the age of 18 years old. This has been verified by countless Private, Federal and State Government, Educational and Law Enforcement studies.
If you care about the health and educations of children and the truth,
Vote yes on B
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saundra richards
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Watcher wrote: ukiahan
apalled in Florida wrote
"I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do."
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Watcher wrote:
Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18.
__________
ukiahan wrote:
you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination.
__________
Watcher wrote:
Ukiahan, It really helps to know what you're talking about. Unfortunately, no school or teacher has shown the courage to come out and say, "hay we have a drug problem."
Instead it's like dominoes.
First, pot pours into the schools.
Second, pot causes a huge drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate.
Third, because schools get their money from graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut.
Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades.
End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers. watcher, if no teachers will come out and say "hay we have a drug problem." where did you find the ones that admitted to doctoring grades to combat marijuana use? losers, lowlifes, degenerates....all words used by a so called drug counselor
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saundra richards
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"There are really no other medications that have the same mechanisms of action as marijuana. Dronabinol (Marinol) is available by prescription in capsules, but has the distinct disadvantage of containing only synthetic delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) which is only one of many therapeutically beneficial cannabinoids in the natural plant."
-- Gregory T. Carter, M.D.
Co-director, MDA/ALS Center,
University of Washington Medical Center
Muscular Dystrophy Association website article
October, 2003
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James M Kinder
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Bud E Greene wrote: I have been doing some research and have come up with some information that the county might be interested in. Apparently back in the 1990’s Hemp activists failed to get Hemp legalized for commercial use because of two reasons: 1) The Bush Admin. 2) And the Marijuana industry was afraid that because of the pollen factor, Hemp would wipe Marijuana potency out after a few years of Hemp cultivation. What I propose is that since Marijuana is Hemp and Hemp is Marijuana, That research and development of the plant begin as soon as possible. Why nobody in this county is trying to develop products that can be made of Hemp/Marijuana is beyond me.
Here is a few things that can be made from the fibers of the Hemp/Marijuana plant: Accessories: aprons, back packs, bags, belts, caps, eyeglass cases, jewelry, hair ties, hats, hip packs, scarves, shawls, shoe laces, shoes, socks, ties, wallets. Apparel: baby clothes, bathing suits, children's clothes, coats, dresses, jackets, jeans, lingerie, overalls, pants, shirts, shorts, skirts, suits, sweaters. Cosmetics: hair conditioners, lip balms, lotions, massage oils, salves, shampoos, soaps. Foods: beer, burgers, candy, coffees, cheese, cookies, dry cookie and pancake mixes, flour, oil, pretzels, roasted seeds, salad dressing, wine. Household Furnishings: blankets, candles, carpets, coffee filters, dish towels, napkins, placemats, rugs. Paper: art papers, bond, bookmarks, books, cigarette papers, corrugated board, envelopes, invitations, journals, magazines, stationery. Publications: books, magazines, newspapers, research papers. Raw Hemp: bast fiber, batting (tow) & sliver for industry & craft use, hurds, seeds. Services: consulting, Internet support, networking, research & development. Sports Equipment: Plastic goods, hacky sacks, skateboards, snowboards, surfboards. Spun Hemp: cordage, embroidery thread, rope, twine, webbing, yarn. Textiles: hand woven & mill loomed fabrics - blended silks to canvas, various weights & textures, colors, patterns, stripes & plaids; finishing services. Other: animal leashes & collars, dog treats, diesel fuel, drums, tool bags, toys, fiber board.
It took about 15 minutes on the internet to get this information. I also learned that to call a plant a "hemp plant" or a “marijuana plant” is not really correct, hemp and marijuana are both separate parts of one plant; the Cannabis Plant. Hemp being the plant stalk and branches, and Marijuana being the female buds that people smoke.
I hope this gives people something to think about....
Vote No on measure B. I am all for MALE industrial hemp, grown in large quantity every ten miles or so. All you tie dyed, Al Gore loving Prius drivers could go to reeducation camps, eat hemp seed pies and braid dog leashes until you detox. Meanwhile, all the "medical" marijuana would be pollinated and useless. Ahhh, bliss comes back to our sleepy little homes.
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saundra richards
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Power is not a means; it is an end....
Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself....
The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy - everything.... No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends....
We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science.... There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always - do not forget this, Winston - always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless....
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.
-George Orwell, 1984
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James M Kinder
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Well, the Sheriff now supports Measure B. Remember the tune folks, "I'm breakin rocks, in the - HOT SUN - I fought the law, and the LAW WON... More than six plants and you go to the hoosegow to meet Bubba your new "special" friend. For you stoners, that's all your fingers on one hand, plus one more. And they better not be big plants, either.
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Watcher
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saundra richards wrote
"watcher, if no teachers will come out and say "hay we have a drug problem." where did you find the ones that admitted to doctoring grades to combat marijuana use?
losers, lowlifes, degenerates....all words used by a so called drug counselor"
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saundra richards
How did you become o familiar with the words used by drug counselors?
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saundra richards
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welllll, sir, YOU said you were a drug counselor, and those are your words...
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