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ive been to mendo county and what I noticed wasnt a marijuana problem. Maybe you should stop worrying about the grass growing, the sun will come up, the grass will grow. Maybe the speed and pills are the real problem, but I guess only the people who are hooked on pills or speed are the ones worried about the grass growing. You folks worry about the growers selling to kids. Well its no ones fault but the parent.. If you upstanding citizens were to raise good morals and values into your children you wouldnt have this problem. SO stop your whinning and go to one of your meetings.

Watcher wrote:
LIVE AND LET LIVE
You should come and see what the growers in Mendocino are doing to the ecology, economy, the health and education of kids and themselves, then you would see that "reefer madness" is ringing true.

well we could always brainwash and dope our kids with something else. like Ritalin or Aderal. Or you can just give them some of your Xanax, Valium, or Ativans. All highly addictive. All heavily prescribed in Ukiah.

But no marijuana is the poison.
how can something none addictive with no dependency symptoms be poison. How man of those kids died from Overdoses. yes im sure it alters there mind and makes them make poor decisions, but so does alcohol, and over the counter drugs. I dont see you crying to ban alcohol because some teenagers got drunk and killed themselves in there car. You arent trying to ban precription drugs after the 3 million people died from medical malpractice. Doctors kill more people than guns do, I dont see you crying to stop doctors from practicing, Alcohol kills more people each year than doctors do, yet you still allow beer wine and spirits to be sold. Cigarettes kill more people than doctors and alcohol yet I dont see you crying about the kids getting poisoned with that. Measure B wont fix your problems. It wont make any of this go away. People think measure b will fix the marijuana problem. Well it wont, It will raise the prices of marijuana which will cause crime rate to go up. The price increase will appeal to more people who are in a bind due to the housing market, bam you got a whole new set of growers. Good honest people who just are trying to make the house payment.
Stop cutting your nose off in spite your face.

[Willits Girl]

A Person wrote:

"These growers just cannot contain themselves. They, along with the No on "B" people, have to always push the limit on everything. This will be your demise."
I actually knew these people. They made extremely terrible choices, granted, but they were not bad people, and I am extremely saddened for their family. Their children are wonderful, and it's depressing how their family is torn apart by this. My support goes to their children in hopes that they are able to stay together and not be bartered off into our particularly terrible fostering system. I think you're extremely insensitive and biased.

"These people" I have never known 2 growers to be the same. Just like all white peole can't dance and all black people are good at sports and all lawyers and politicians are liars. These statements are stereotypical and extremly ignorant. I am not a "commercial grower" or a "profiteer" I work with the direct effect of B. I work with children whose parents are incarcerated. People who break the law will keep breaking the law. Medical people are the only ones greatly effected by this. Stoners are hardly violent or polluting if I ever knew one. They are describing METH! I haven't heard one medical marijuana patient back up B and say it protects them. Read it closely, look into who profits from B. The rich get richer and poverty gets lower than it already is. This si not a right-wing county, let's keep it that way!

[Watcher]

WATCH WATCHER
When you use the term "lies" are you talking of my statements or yours?

Here is a report released recently about kids and pot. It describes many of the problems experienced by kids when they smoke pot. Marijuana depresses many kids because they can't function without their short-term memory.

This causes them to fall behind scholastically which in turn triggers anxiety.

Check it out.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/05/09/hea...

[Watcher]

ukiahan
apalled in Florida wrote
"I have no problem with people who grow marijuana to sell smoke eat whatever theywant to do."
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Watcher wrote:
Your opinion falls apart when you take into consideration that way over half of the pot that's grown ends up in the hands of kids under the age of 18.
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ukiahan wrote:
you can repeat this a million times, but it still won't make it true. Once again, go to schools and talk to them and they will tell you the real problems (funding), but reality isn't nearly as much as a vivid imagination.
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Watcher wrote:
Ukiahan It really helps to know what you're talking about. It's like dominoes.

First, pot pours into the schools.

Second, pot causes a drop in grades, a drop in attendance and an increase in the drop out rate.

Third, because schools get their money fro graduation and attendance, the schools money is cut.

Fourth, as an act of self-preservation the teachers and schools systems doctor the attendance books and give away grades.

End result, the quick patch attempted by the school systems never lasts for long and the kids end up the long-term losers.

[A Mendo voice]

A yes vote on measure BS takes away personal use from the people of Mendocino county and does nothing to help get rid of these big grows.
Measure B is BS!

NO ON B!!!!!!!!

[saundra richards]

Marijuana Danger wrote:

Feds: Teen use of pot can lead to dependency, mental illness By JENNIFER C. KERR, Associated Press Writer
Fri May 9, 7:00 AM ET
WASHINGTON - Depression, teens and marijuana are a dangerous mix that can lead to dependency, mental illness or suicidal thoughts, according to a White House report being released Friday.
A teen who has been depressed at some point in the past year is more than twice as likely to have used marijuana as teens who have not reported being depressed — 25 percent compared with 12 percent, said the report by the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy.
"Marijuana is a more consequential substance of abuse than our culture has treated it in the last 20 years," said John Walters, director of the office. "This is not just youthful experimentation that they'll get over as we used to think in the past."
Smoking marijuana can lead to more serious problems, Walters said in an interview.
For example, using marijuana increases the risk of developing mental disorders by 40 percent, the report said. And teens who smoke pot at least once a month over a yearlong period are three times more likely to have suicidal thoughts than nonusers, it said.
The report also cited research that showed that teens who smoke marijuana when feeling depressed were more than twice as likely as their peers to abuse or become addicted to pot — 8 percent compared with 3 percent.
Experts who have worked with children say there's nothing harmless about marijuana.
"I've seen many, many kids' lives negatively impacted and taken off track because of marijuana," said Elizabeth Stanley-Salazar, director of adolescent services for Phoenix House treatment centers in California. "It's somewhat Russian roulette. There are so many factors, emotional, psychological, biological. You can't predict the experimentation and how it will impact a kid."
The drug control policy office analyzed about a dozen studies looking at marijuana use, including research by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.
Walters appealed to parents to recognize signs of possible drug use and depression.
"It's not something you look the other way about when your teen starts appearing careless about their grooming, withdrawing from the family, losing interest in daily activities," Walters said. "Find out what's wrong."

a report from the FEDS says that! shock! awe! Gasp! the feds have always been so upstanding when it comes to marijuana testing right?...
"However, in 1976, just as multi-disciplined marijuana research should have been going into its second, third, and fourth-generation studies (see Therapeutic Potential of Marijuana and NORML federal files), a ”surprise” United States government policy again forbade all promising federal research into marijuana’s therapeutic effects.
This time, the research ban was accomplished when American pharmaceutical companies successfully petitioned the federal government to be allowed to finance and judge 100% of the research.
The previous 10 years of research had indicated a tremendous promise for the therapeutic uses of natural cannabis, and this potential was quietly turned over to corporate hands - not for the benefit of the public, but to suppress the medical information.

[A Mendo voice]

UKIAH, Nov. 8, 2000. Mendocino County voters approved Measure G, a resolution calling for the decriminalization of personal use and cultivation of marijuana, by a vote of 58-42%.

Organizers, led by the Mendocino Green Party and supported by California NORML, submitted over twice the 2,800 signatures needed to qualify for the ballot.

Entitled the "Personal Use of Marijuana Initiative", Measure G

Instructs the county government to support all efforts toward the decriminalization of marijuana;
Directs law enforcement not to arrest or prosecute individuals for personal use marijuana violations involving possession, transportation or cultivation of 25 plants or fewer;
Provides for the continued enforcement of marijuana laws against those who cultivate, transport and possess marijuana for sale.
Because it does not change state law, Measure G is essentially an advisory resolution.

California NORML has endorsed Measure G as a welcome step towards protecting personal freedom and reducing the costs of marijuana enforcement. "The current marijuana laws promote crime by making personal use cultivation a felony," argues Cal. NORML coordinator Dale Gieringer. "The result is to push otherwise law-abiding, responsible adult users into the hands of criminal street dealers and smugglers. By decriminalizing personal use cultivation, we can undercut the criminal market. This policy has been successfully adopted by states in Australia, where it has been shown to reduce the costs of enforcement without increasing drug abuse."

Mendocino, a scenic, sparsely populated county in Northern California's marijuana-growing "Emerald Triangle," has been the scene of growing dissatisfaction with the war on pot. Both the sheriff and district attorney have voiced support for marijuana decriminalization.

MEASURE BS TAKES AWAY PERSONAL USE AND DOES NOTHING FOR BIG GROWS!

VOTE NO ON B!!!!

[been there]

I happen to live in the canyon and no grower would ever like to be put into the same class as these people. But lets get it right, not all the growers in mendo operate like this so lets not stereotype. Mendo did not need measure B to arrest these guys. Measure b solves nothing. Medical marijuana remains legal throughout cali so get use to it. Prohibition is the creator of the crime element, ignorance is what cause people to destroy the land in all cases. Try not to lump everyone into the same category here.

[Vote Yes on B]

been there wrote:

I happen to live in the canyon and no grower would ever like to be put into the same class as these people. But lets get it right, not all the growers in mendo operate like this so lets not stereotype. Mendo did not need measure B to arrest these guys. Measure b solves nothing. Medical marijuana remains legal throughout cali so get use to it. Prohibition is the creator of the crime element, ignorance is what cause people to destroy the land in all cases. Try not to lump everyone into the same category here.

But why did these abusive commercial growers move here? Because Mendocino County, with 25 plants and no canopy limit, has the most libberal allowance for growing "medical marijuana." Measure B is needed to put Mendocino County back in step with the rest of the state. Vote YES on B to stop the commercial abuse.