Is Albany a good place to live
formerly justAcorrection

United States

#21 Jul 14, 2008
Ken nailed it.

Few can argue that overall, the trends in Albany have not been favorable, and with perhaps the exception of medical services, the prognosis may be considered bleak. It's a compounding, complex series of causes and effects that are deeply and systemically rooted. Without very smart, non-political, non-wishy-washy, non-self-serving, dynamic intervention on a "surge" level, this city likely slips past the tipping point. It may be beyond that point already, or might be by the time Mayor Willie Adams and Rep. Sanford Bishop leave office. People blame City Manager Alfred Lott or Police Chief Younger, but the ones that led the charge to hire these folks (if they are indeed ineffective) and fail to provide the critical leadership needed today are Mayor Willie Adams and his cronies. You hate to get personal on this, but choosing a government job opens one up to criticism, and it's very sad to watch this city slide - especially where there still might be a chance, however slim. This isn't a time for Teflon responses and charming, vacuous one-liners. Leadership is the beginning point.

In Albany, leadership is particularly important because Albany isn't a neighborhood of, say, Atlanta where forgiveness is provided by a burgeoning metro population and expanding wealth - where a neighborhood can be revitalized because the city is busting out at the seams and populations can be shifted. In many ways, Albany is a standalone economic unit without major strategic importance saddled with growing poverty and crime situated in the 8th poorest congressional district.

And the city is shrinking. Forget today's erroneous Herald article headline "Albany Grows by 2.7%." If you believe the article, that's Lee County that grew by 2.7%. The body of the article reports that Dougherty County grew by .5%. And here's the difference in even those figures: Lee County's growth was largely fueled by move-ins. Births in Lee coounty accounted for half of the increase of population. In Dougherty County, births were almost double the population increase. That means that other people (wage earners and others) acutally moved away!! And according to the 2006 stats, 3/4 of the births are to single mothers and will very likely result in a drain on public resources like schools and medical and even welfare (kids drain resources). See how the growth is different and there is little analysis of the numbers! Even County Chairman Sinyard is quoted in the article as applauding the growth in Dougherty, but will he publicly acknowledge the difference and see how the Dougherty birth-based growth is actually a drain on resources for the next 18 years or more? And that's before you start to compound it.

And those are quantitative differences between the growth stats. What about qualitative differences? Is talent leaving and poverty moving in?

The only way Albany can recover is through incredibly brilliant and bold and focused leadership that will lead it out of this growing quagmire.

Who will be permitted to step up?(And why should they?)

And in what direction does the city go, you ask.

I ask that too.
robert

Miramar Beach, FL

#22 Jul 15, 2008
Michael J wrote:
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well the fact that my wife is returning to the law-enforcement field is a true comfort. you see she has been a federal officer for 3 years and was injured in the line of duty. She has this knack for computers that is just awesome. she traces i.p. addresses and does her job well. she analyzes her suspects and she is good at what she does. I still don't feel that your ignorance and hatred will deter us.


What mr rump said was not igrorant. i have lived in albany for 24 years. over time the racial problems have gotten worse. I do not belive that his comment was out of hate. i believe that although a few of the his comments were out of line, but i belive that he said those things to make a point. ALBANY GA IS A HORRIBLE PLACE TO LIVE, MUCH LESS RAISE CHILDREN!! he said it was a s***** of a town and it is. i belive that pelham or camilla would be a better place to live.
rosco weatherbee

Miramar Beach, FL

#23 Jul 15, 2008
listen up,michael j., maybe you should at least think about the possibility that the 2 you are refering to may really be trying to save you a lot of money that it takes to move to a place that ain't that cool of a joint in the first place. i've lived here for almosr 40 yrs. and wish i had enough money to relocate to, say, maybe texas or some place with much,much less hate than "agony" ga. sounds, also, like you're threatening people in a veiled sort of way with your pistol packin momma jive talk. and, you shouldn't be braging that your pistol packer is also a computer hacker. try atlanta, columbus, or maybe macon, ga.
ronshod shaq-tang

Miramar Beach, FL

#24 Jul 15, 2008
Michael J wrote:
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you send mixed signals!!!!!!! why would i care if you like white meat? We don't know you well enough to call you.
Hey! i never said anything about liking "white meat". I would never say anything like that about a woman. in Mongolia we are taught to have respect for women and our elders. i do not appreciate you saying anything about me that is not true. And as for the call me thing, i was just trying to be friendly because the way that people treat minorities these days we minorities should at least be friendly to each other. I think that you owe me and my heritage an appology.
formerly justAcorrection

United States

#25 Jul 15, 2008
This is interesting. Seems the general consensus in this forum is that Albany has serious problems and does not have much of a future. Right? On an individual case-by-case basis, there can be success stories, but few here would describe Albany as a great place to live compared to many other communities - especially when it comes to family and children. Am I reading this right?

Ok. So let's say that you have to fix it. Just suppose that is your job and you have many resources at your disposal.

What is the fix? Are ther any?(this is a sincere question. burning it down is not a choice.) What are the practical solutions? Maybe these city and county leaders need some guidance from the people. We folks who don't live in Doublegate and don't have an armed police escort etc may have some input. I can tell you that having been exposed to those who have influence, including the political, governmental, not-for-profit, media and even ministerial sides, I am not particularly overall encouraged. Yes, there are very hopeful exceptions. But can they be galvanized into a highly effective force?

Is there no answer to the underlying problems touched on in several of the posts above?

I must ask that from a personal side as well, because as Michael is considering coming to Albany, we are seriously considering how and where to create the best future for our children -here or elsewhere.

Can Albany be saved?
Michael J

Palestine, TX

#26 Jul 17, 2008
rosco weatherbee wrote:
listen up,michael j., maybe you should at least think about the possibility that the 2 you are refering to may really be trying to save you a lot of money that it takes to move to a place that ain't that cool of a joint in the first place. i've lived here for almosr 40 yrs. and wish i had enough money to relocate to, say, maybe texas or some place with much,much less hate than "agony" ga. sounds, also, like you're threatening people in a veiled sort of way with your pistol packin momma jive talk. and, you shouldn't be braging that your pistol packer is also a computer hacker. try atlanta, columbus, or maybe macon, ga.
you have misunderstood me. I was simply saying that my wife is strong enough to take care of herself if the time might come that a person might attempt to force themselves upon her. and also that she is good at her job. I am sorry for the misunderstanding.
rosco weatherbee

Miramar Beach, FL

#27 Jul 17, 2008
michael j, i am deeply sorry for the misunderstanding. i hope she will whip someones butt if they try to bother her. i hope she will keep this town safe if she comes
ebs1

Fort Mill, SC

#28 Jul 27, 2008
jbrook wrote:
Albany is full of robbers and thieves. You would do best to find somewhere else to move your family.Killings amoung the black race is a daily thing around here. We are talking about getting out of this place ourselves.
Hi i'm really about to move my husband and our kids to albany I was told that it was a good place to get ahead aand very safe for the kids can you tell me some areas to stay away from.
southern girl

Hephzibah, GA

#29 Jul 28, 2008
why are yall moving from NC to Albany, I am from SC and wish every day to move back there, but I can not leave my family here. I loce SC sop much to do, Ride around Albany and you decide which areas to stay away from. this is the best advice anyone can give to someone. Good Luck,
Slowmo

United States

#30 Jul 29, 2008
Pelham or Camilla ? aaaaaaaaaahahahaha now thats funny !
beetle

United States

#31 Sep 14, 2008
my husband and myself moved from albany georgia in 2000. we go back every year and every year it is the same or worse. i will never live in albany again. we still have family there and they say that it just keeps getting worse. i wouldn't put my kids in school there. even though my hubby and myself went to school there. my kids are bi-racial and even though the population is of a mixed race (somewhat) i don't want my children to have to go through what we did. i don't want them to be scared to go to school.
Concerned Citizen

Lexington, AL

#32 Sep 14, 2008
Albany's problems are not beyond resolution. But improvement can't begin until we remove the obstacles. Here are some obvious ones:

The first change is to get Alfred Lott as far away from decision making as possible, along with his hiring mistakes Buie, Younger and the Civic Center guy. He hasn't a single leadership quality about him while his false and misleading reports to the Commission only serve to gum up the works.

We need accurate, timely, comparable and relevant data from our CVB, not lies. Until we know where we stand, we can't measure improvements.

We most certainly don't need to throw good money after bad supporting terminally ill out-of-town private companies like a semipro football team that has a problem with honesty.

We need to accept that we are NOT a tourist destination and unless God gives us a beach, a mountain or an amusement park, we won't be. We are an Agricenter and revitalization is incumbent upon transportation and processing of ag products.

We should embrace people like our Airport manager who is doing an outstanding job.

We should consolidate City and County government because we can't afford not to.

TRAINS TRAINS TRAINS! The future of Albany is TRAINS!
G in Albany

Augusta, GA

#34 Oct 21, 2008
Michael J wrote:
Me and my wife are thinking about moving our family up there. We currently live in West Texas. I manage a small chain of restaurants and my wife is a stay at home mom. My wife is white and I am black. Will there be any racil problems or tension with our living and raising our children in albany,ga. Also we are members of the Church Of God.I have an assoc. deg. are there any mgmt jobs avail. in albany. any response will be greatly appreciated.
If I was you I would look at another place than Albany, the crime rate is high, jobs are hard to come by. I have lived here all my life and I am going at moving out of the area myself.
Gee Wiz

United States

#35 Oct 21, 2008
G in Albany wrote:
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If I was you I would look at another place than Albany, the crime rate is high, jobs are hard to come by. I have lived here all my life and I am going at moving out of the area myself.
There are finally some things cooking at the city commission level. And maybe something will stick on Mayor Teflon.
anyname

United States

#36 Oct 21, 2008
forget w va there are no black people there those are some mean people who dont like blacks by all means take your chances in albany it must be like meriweather co ga
anyname

United States

#37 Oct 21, 2008
sorry michael but i forgot this little tidbit they dont call it w by god va for nothing i never lived in albany but i did live on the ky w va border your wife better be good with a i wont say that word i will say weapon
MEME

United States

#39 Oct 23, 2008
ronshod shaq-tang wrote:
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Hey! i never said anything about liking "white meat". I would never say anything like that about a woman. in Mongolia we are taught to have respect for women and our elders. i do not appreciate you saying anything about me that is not true. And as for the call me thing, i was just trying to be friendly because the way that people treat minorities these days we minorities should at least be friendly to each other. I think that you owe me and my heritage an appology.
LOL! You and your heritage? LOLLOLOLLOL!!!! For crying out loud dude. WTF?
ASU PoliSci Prof

United States

#40 Oct 23, 2008
Gee Wiz wrote:
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There are finally some things cooking at the city commission level. And maybe something will stick on Mayor Teflon.
Don't count on it. Besides, the problem lies with a dishonest and incompetent city manager. Things are so much worse than when Janice was here and everyone knows it.

Albany is stuck in "Down" as long as Lott, Buie, Younger, Mazzola and Wendy Martin still drive downtown to work. Until they are gone, Albany will remain one of the worst places to live this side of DC.
Yes n No

United States

#41 Oct 23, 2008
ASU PoliSci Prof wrote:
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Don't count on it. Besides, the problem lies with a dishonest and incompetent city manager. Things are so much worse than when Janice was here and everyone knows it.
Albany is stuck in "Down" as long as Lott, Buie, Younger, Mazzola and Wendy Martin still drive downtown to work. Until they are gone, Albany will remain one of the worst places to live this side of DC.
What you say may be true as to skillsets of these folks. Without being specific, with some you name, I agree totally, but with others I am not sure. I will tell you though, in practical terms, you can't replace any of those people or change the direction they have been given, without replacing the top guy - the mayor. Picture a new mayor with a real dynamic vision who provides real leadership. These people would be performing at a higher level or a strong commmited mayor would have them replaced. In any case, a competent mayor would make them better. And Willie Adams does not do that. What I am saying is that even if, say, Lott is ineffective, he will never get better or be forced out until Adams is replaced - unless of course an event occurs. Whatever you think about Lott, he will never be replaced while Adams is mayor. So in order to affect change, you need to start with the mayor.
chris

United States

#42 May 8, 2012
Me and my girlfriend are thinking about moving to Albany Ga. She's going to collage and im becoming a police officer there. Where would be the best place to live so when im working ill know she's safe alone at home?

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