Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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And I ask: What gives us the right to restrict the number to "one" ?
He's real mad and won't say. Probably sulking today.

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On May 6, 2009, the State of Maine became the fifth U.S. State to codify the legal construct of "same sex marriage." Supporters labeled the passage of the new law as a "civil rights victory," a matter of "fairness and equality" for "all" as well as "equal protection under the law." The new law was titled, "L.D. 1020, An Act To End Discrimination in Civil Marriage and Affirm Religious Freedom." But the Act, itself, very specifically does "discriminate" - against consenting adult polygamists.
On April 22, 2009, up to 4,000 Maine citizens attended the Public Hearing at the Augusta Civic Center. As expected, marriage controllers opposed the law, wanting to continue special rights only for those who choose "one man, one woman." Homosexuals and supporters wanted to further expand the receipt of those special rights to those who choose "same sex marriage" too.
Mark Henkel, speaking as the National Polygamy Advocate and as a Maine citizen, also made a presentation at the Hearing - as "Neither For Nor Against." When he stood up to speak, the entire room immediately hushed, except for the overwhelming clicking sound of numerous media cameras on him. He noted that both homosexuals and marriage controllers re-define marriage. Factually, polygamy has always been included in the definition. Henkel offered the polygamy rights win-win solution to end the government marriage debate, the abolition of all big government marriage control for unrelated consenting adults. When he had finished, many people approached him, expressing their surprise and support for the alternative proposal. Despite the crush of photography, the major Maine media chose only to "sell" L.D. 1020 to persuade their audiences.
Over the subsequent two weeks, the bill was rushed through the Legislature and was immediately signed by Governor Baldacci on May 6th – extremely quickly, indeed.
Previously opposing "gay marriage" in favor of civil unions, the Governor explained, "I have come to believe that this is a question of fairness and of equal protection under the law… Under the Constitution, we are all the same. We are supposed to make sure we are all protected from discrimination, regardless of the differences between us. My responsibility, that I swore an oath to do, is that I'm there for everybody."
And we are all treated the equally when it comes to getting married to more than one person, so it's not an equal rights issue. Should we all be able to marry more than one person? Well, I'm sure there's gotta be a forum about that subject somewhere...if not, why not start one?

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Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
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And we are all treated the equally when it comes to getting married to more than one person, so it's not an equal rights issue. Should we all be able to marry more than one person? Well, I'm sure there's gotta be a forum about that subject somewhere...if not, why not start one?
As we are all treated equally when it comes to getting married to one person of the opposite sex as well. Equal is as equal does.
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hope they all suck each-other to death!!!!!!!!!!

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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As we are all treated equally when it comes to getting married to one person of the opposite sex as well. Equal is as equal does.
And we were all treated equally when it came to marrying someone of the same race. But since a white person couldn't marry a black person, while a black person could, they weren't treated equally.
A man can marry a woman, but a woman can't. Not equal.
A woman can marry a man, but a man can't. Not equal.
Everybody can only marry one person. Equal.
Should everybody be able to marry more than one person?
Well, I'm sure you're not the first person to come up with the idea, why not see if there is a forum about that subject?

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hope they all suck each-other to death!!!!!!!!!!
What a way to go!!!!!!

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You are really an ignorant piece of work. Let me spell it out for you one final time. I support equal marriage for Gay Americans who what to marry the ONE person they love. Do you get it you stupid jackass?
Yeah, we get it- you are a bigot. You don't care about equal right's just your cause.

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<quoted text>Frank could you explain the ramifications of Poly marriage with regards to our court system, divorce and social security benefits? Same sex marriage in no way affects them, can the same be said of Poly marriage????
So because it might be "difficult", that is a good enough reason to deny someone the equal right to be happy?

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Did they let you out finally? Well, keep taking your meds on schedule, or they might have to come get you again, stupid.
Poor Rose, she can't even get people on the internet to take her seriously.
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And I ask: What gives us the right to restrict the number to "one" ?
If nobody else will answer this, then I will:

Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the fact that no stigma in our psyche rationally provokes us to want to mate with more than one person. Maybe on a conscious level that may seem like the case sometimes, but it doesn't resonate subconsciously, or at least has not yet been shown to by psychologists.

Which is exactly the opposite case for homosexuality. Scientists, biologists, psychologists - they've all reached the same conclusion regarding this. When it's looked at in an objective, unbiased light, any experienced practician can see the trend: homosexuality is just as genetic as taste buds. The desire to commit bigamy is not.

Gay relationships are not the equivalent of bigamy and shouldn't be equated as such.
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Yeah, we get it- you are a bigot. You don't care about equal right's just your cause.
I'm sorry, which side of this argument are you on again? The anti-equality one?

Yea, the pro-equality guy here is quite the "bigot", eh?

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I'm sorry, which side of this argument are you on again? The anti-equality one?
Yea, the pro-equality guy here is quite the "bigot", eh?
"pro-equality?" Hardly, you're just interested in a cause, not really interested in equality, but then again none of you really are.

But hey, you guys never let rational thought get in the way of a good protest. I guess it makes you guys feel like you have a purpose.

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If nobody else will answer this, then I will:
Our right to limit marriage to one person is backed by the fact that no stigma in our psyche rationally provokes us to want to mate with more than one person. Maybe on a conscious level that may seem like the case sometimes, but it doesn't resonate subconsciously, or at least has not yet been shown to by psychologists.
Which is exactly the opposite case for homosexuality. Scientists, biologists, psychologists - they've all reached the same conclusion regarding this. When it's looked at in an objective, unbiased light, any experienced practician can see the trend: homosexuality is just as genetic as taste buds. The desire to commit bigamy is not.
Gay relationships are not the equivalent of bigamy and shouldn't be equated as such.
So you are against equal rights for everyone? You are against the right of everyone to live their life the way they choose?

I guess you really aren't all that interested in keeping the government out of your bedroom after all.
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"pro-equality?" Hardly, you're just interested in a cause, not really interested in equality, but then again none of you really are.
But hey, you guys never let rational thought get in the way of a good protest. I guess it makes you guys feel like you have a purpose.
You bet, buddy.

History has shown this: given enough momentum, a rights-activism movement in America cannot be stopped (i.e. racial equality, gender equality, the American revolution...)

Everyone has a purpose. That's what sets the two sides of this debate apart; one side's extreme is shown to consistently show more faith in human capability than the other.

And it ain't your side, if I may resort to briefly using Texan slang.
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Frankie I have opened this discussion up with you on the LGBT thread.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/gay/TK0EA9RFQ...
In on that.
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So you are against equal rights for everyone? You are against the right of everyone to live their life the way they choose?
I guess you really aren't all that interested in keeping the government out of your bedroom after all.
If you want to legalize multiple-partner marriage than go right on ahead, see where you get.
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Frank got his azz handed to him. Godsmacked tried to discuss Poly marriage with him. All the boy had was Ad- Hominem attacks. Please do click on the link, and read for yourselves. Frankie is a troll.
That is a lie. I took up the glove. And smacked your pet across the mouth with it.
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<quoted text>Frank could you explain the ramifications of Poly marriage with regards to our court system, divorce and social security benefits?
I did that. In the other forum.
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<quoted text>Thats the problem Frank, you did not address the issues. Just like now I asked, you deflected. Do I need to repost the question?
No, because I have answered it. It was simple.

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