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Mar 14, 2013
 
December 29, 2012 marked the 122nd Anniversary of the murder of 297 Sioux Indians at Wounded Knee Creek on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota. These 297 people, in their winter camp, were murdered by federal agents and members of the 7th Cavalry who had come to confiscate their firearms “for their own safety and protection”. The slaughter began after the majority of the Sioux had peacefully turned in their firearms. The Calvary began shooting, and managed to wipe out the entire camp. Two hundred of the 297 victims were women and children. About 40 members of the 7th Cavalry were killed, but over half of them were victims of fratricide from the Hotchkiss guns of their overzealous comrades-in-arms. Twenty members of the 7th Cavalry's death squad were deemed “National Heroes” and were awarded the Medal of Honor for their acts of ‘heroism’.
We hear very little of Wounded Knee today. It is usually not mentioned in our history classes or books. What little that does exist about Wounded Knee is normally a sanitized “Official Government Explanation”. And there are several historically inaccurate depictions of the events leading up to the massacre which appear in movie scripts and are not the least bit representative of the actual events that took place that day.
Wounded Knee was among the first federally backed gun confiscation attempts in United States history. It ended in the senseless murder of 297 people.
Before you jump on the emotionally charged bandwagon for gun-control, take a moment to reflect on the real purpose of the Second Amendment, the right of the people to take up arms in defense of themselves, their families, and property in the face of an invading army or an oppressive government. The argument that the Second Amendment only applies to hunting and target shooting is asinine. When the United States Constitution was drafted, hunting was an everyday chore carried out by men and women to put meat on the table each night and target shooting was an unheard of concept. Musket balls were a precious commodity and were certainly not wasted on target shooting. The Second Amendment was written by people who fled oppressive and tyrannical regimes in Europe and it refers to the right of American citizens to be armed, should such tyranny arise in the United States.
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Mar 14, 2013
 
As time goes forward, the average citizen in the United States continually loses little chunks of personal freedom or “liberty”. Far too many times, unjust gun control bills were passed and signed into law under the guise of “for your safety or protection”. The Patriot Act signed into law by G.W. Bush, was expanded and continues under Barack Obama. It is just one of many examples of American citizens being stripped of their rights and privacy. Now, the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is on the table and will most likely be attacked to facilitate the path for the removal of our firearms, all in the name of safety.
Before we blindly accept whatever new firearms legislation that is about to be doled out, we should stop and think about something for just one minute. Evil does exist in our world. It always has and always will. Throughout history evil people have committed evil acts. In the Bible one of the first stories is that of Cain killing Abel. We cannot legislate evil into extinction. Good people will abide by the law and the criminal element will not.
Evil exists all around us, but looking back at the historical record of the past 200 years, across the globe, evil and malevolence is most often found in the hands of those with the power, the governments. That greatest human tragedies on record and the largest loss of innocent human life can be attributed to governments. Who do the governments always target? Scapegoats and enemies within their own border, but only after they have been disarmed to the point where they are no longer a threat. Ask any Native American, and they will tell you it was inferior technology and lack of arms that contributed to their demise. Ask any Armenian why it was so easy for the Turks to exterminate millions of them and they will answer “We were disarmed before it happened”. Ask any Jew what Hitler’s first step prior to the mass murders of the Holocaust was. The confiscation of firearms from the people.
Wounded Knee is the prime example of why the Second Amendment exists and why we should vehemently resist any attempts to infringe on our Rights to Bear Arms. Without the Second Amendment we will be stripped of any ability to defend ourselves.
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Mar 14, 2013
 
Are you asking for a painted pony for your birthday my little friend?
Ralph

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Mar 14, 2013
 
No just stating that the right to bear arms was to protect citizens from government oppression. They have assault rifles don't they?
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Mar 14, 2013
 
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No just stating that the right to bear arms was to protect citizens from government oppression. They have assault rifles don't they?
Are you talking about that well regulated militia thing?
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Mar 14, 2013
 
No I'm talking about if the 2 ND amendment is to protect us from a corrupt government then common sense would be to take away our means to defend ourselves.
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No I'm talking about if the 2 ND amendment is to protect us from a corrupt government then common sense would be to take away our means to defend ourselves.
What about your right to carry on an airplane? How do you gun nuts defend yourselves when you fly around the states?
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<quoted text>What about your right to carry on an airplane? How do you gun nuts defend yourselves when you fly around the states?
we dont. We pack them in our checked luggage. Only pilots and the air marshals (or whatever name they are called by others)cary weapons on board an aircraft. There is no right to cary on board an aircraft. Just like you cannot cary in a bar a government building or school legally.
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<quoted text>we dont. We pack them in our checked luggage. Only pilots and the air marshals (or whatever name they are called by others)cary weapons on board an aircraft. There is no right to cary on board an aircraft. Just like you cannot cary in a bar a government building or school legally.
I thought your Constitution gave you the right to bear arms? So your Constitution limits your right to carry guns then? Interesting...
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R U retarded

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<quoted text>I thought your Constitution gave you the right to bear arms? So your Constitution limits your right to carry guns then? Interesting...
There is no absolute right in this country.
You can't scream fire in a crowded theater, but we have the right to free speech
There must be limits to EVERYTHING in life. From what I can read here, you do not support limits, you support removal of rights. If guns are so dangerous, why are there not thousands of deaths each day at gun shows or shooting ranges. In fact, there hasn't been a death at either of those two places that I can find anywhere in recent or past history. And there are millions of rounds fired at shooting ranges each week. No deaths.
Yet, people are dying each day because that nasty spoon made them fat and their heart stopped. Hundreds die or are maimed each day in automobiles. Smoking kills thousands each year, and drinking kills as much if not more.
Guns kill only when an irresponsible human acts upon them. Just like the kitchen knife in your drawer does not harm anyone until used by a human in a negative way.
Your drive is admirable, but you are nothing more than an extreme kook that thinks taking away a firearm from a law abiding citizen will solve all gun violence.
Facts show that law abiding, gun carying citizens prevent more crimes than unarmed citizens. The police are not there to prevent gun violence, only to account for what happened. An armed, law abiding citizen, can and normally always does prevent death and crime.
Having background checks is something I support. And yes, I possess several firearms as well. Having a registration, similiar to one like a car has when you sell/trade it in, is also something I support. Having a weapon fire FULL AUTOMATIC is something I am not in support of. Magazine size and number of bullets restricted is soimething I am against.
There is no absolute, and there shouldn't be. You should think about that as you rant and rave.
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<quoted text>What about your right to carry on an airplane? How do you gun nuts defend yourselves when you fly around the states?
We have to rely on your air marshals for protection there after they check our shoes and underwear.
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Mar 14, 2013
 
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story...

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Md-Ma...

Just a quick search revealed many. Are you Jimbo or Rambo?
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R U retarded wrote:
<quoted text>There is no absolute right in this country.
You can't scream fire in a crowded theater, but we have the right to free speech
There must be limits to EVERYTHING in life. From what I can read here, you do not support limits, you support removal of rights. If guns are so dangerous, why are there not thousands of deaths each day at gun shows or shooting ranges. In fact, there hasn't been a death at either of those two places that I can find anywhere in recent or past history. And there are millions of rounds fired at shooting ranges each week. No deaths.
Yet, people are dying each day because that nasty spoon made them fat and their heart stopped. Hundreds die or are maimed each day in automobiles. Smoking kills thousands each year, and drinking kills as much if not more.
Guns kill only when an irresponsible human acts upon them. Just like the kitchen knife in your drawer does not harm anyone until used by a human in a negative way.
Your drive is admirable, but you are nothing more than an extreme kook that thinks taking away a firearm from a law abiding citizen will solve all gun violence.
Facts show that law abiding, gun carying citizens prevent more crimes than unarmed citizens. The police are not there to prevent gun violence, only to account for what happened. An armed, law abiding citizen, can and normally always does prevent death and crime.
Having background checks is something I support. And yes, I possess several firearms as well. Having a registration, similiar to one like a car has when you sell/trade it in, is also something I support. Having a weapon fire FULL AUTOMATIC is something I am not in support of. Magazine size and number of bullets restricted is soimething I am against.
There is no absolute, and there shouldn't be. You should think about that as you rant and rave.
Good day
http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/s tory...

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Md-Ma ...
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Where can I join your group? I will be in alamo saturday. Please help me continue the fight in cruces.
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Where can I join your group? I will be in alamo saturday. Please help me continue the fight in cruces.
Good evening friend. Our organization is called Protectors of America. Feel free to visit our website for the latest anti-gun movement information and read about our sincere efforts at removing guns from the streets. With a March lifetime membership you will automatically be enrolled in our Harley Davidson drawing. Good luck friend and welcome aboard..
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<quoted text>Good evening friend. Our organization is called Protectors of America. Feel free to visit our website for the latest anti-gun movement information and read about our sincere efforts at removing guns from the streets. With a March lifetime membership you will automatically be enrolled in our Harley Davidson drawing. Good luck friend and welcome aboard..
When and where is the next meeting? And where is this website? The last address sent me to a church website that I later found was the result of some hacking or something like that? While you seem to have a very large following, I am unable to locate anything tangible right now. There are about 20 of us here in Las Cruces that are interested in forming a group down here in the name of your group. PLEASE help! Too many are dying every day!
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<quoted text>When and where is the next meeting? And where is this website? The last address sent me to a church website that I later found was the result of some hacking or something like that? While you seem to have a very large following, I am unable to locate anything tangible right now. There are about 20 of us here in Las Cruces that are interested in forming a group down here in the name of your group. PLEASE help! Too many are dying every day!
Great my friend just type in local Protectors of America at ALA.com and there you go. I know you are a fake and a phony just trying to gin up attention. We already have a chapter in Las Cruces. We are always one step ahead of you nuts but you are still welcome to view our website, who knows we just may get one of you to change sides..
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<quoted text>Great my friend just type in local Protectors of America at ALA.com and there you go. I know you are a fake and a phony just trying to gin up attention. We already have a chapter in Las Cruces. We are always one step ahead of you nuts but you are still welcome to view our website, who knows we just may get one of you to change sides..
I have not heard of a Las Cruces Chapter, until you just mentioned it. I have spent the last two days in front of Strykers Shooting World being yelled at and threatened. Your directions took me to Andrew Lloyd % Associates, and I was not able to find anything more. Can you PLEASE let me know when and where you are meeting so I can attend. Or, where the Las Cruces chapter of your group meets and when so I can go there. The more guns we get off the street, the better!
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<quoted text>I have not heard of a Las Cruces Chapter, until you just mentioned it. I have spent the last two days in front of Strykers Shooting World being yelled at and threatened. Your directions took me to Andrew Lloyd % Associates, and I was not able to find anything more. Can you PLEASE let me know when and where you are meeting so I can attend. Or, where the Las Cruces chapter of your group meets and when so I can go there. The more guns we get off the street, the better!
We are conducting an operation in the morning. We will meet at 9 a.m. at the gun range all the way back south on the Law Enforcement Range because they don't use it on the weekends. We will be taking some pictures and gathering intelligence. Hope to see you there friend..

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