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ibwatchinnow

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If you hear one thing you dismiss it. If you hear two things, you wonder, but dismiss it. When you keep hearing thing after thing, someone better wake up and smell the coffee.

Where's the media? You rarely see anything in the paper about the commission meetings and when you do, it's just a little meaningless crap.

Here's what I'm hearing. commissioner rardin buys $600 cell phone. Heard he tried to fire a clerk when they caught him cheating on his travel expenses. A gaggle of Ipods have been bought, but nobody is smart enough to use them. One clerk gets reimbursed for candy bars when she's traveling. If this is really happening, and I think it is, who is approving this crap? Isn't there one soul down there that really cares how our money is spent? I really hope so and if there is, they are probably being censored.

Rardin wants to buy a chipper and let Premier Pellets use it. I want the county to buy an SUV and let me use it.

Rardin wants to start this environment department to do what the state is already doing. I hear he got cross-ways with them over a spetic tank some time back and theatened them with the county taking it over. I want the county to create a job just for me.

They are spending a fortune hunting coyotes for the ranchers. I bet the wine growers would like the county to perform bird and bee control for them. Heck, I would like the county to do pigeon control for me. I have nothing against the ranchers, but they should not be depending on you and me to do a chore for them that's been a part of ranching for as long a ranching has been around.

What's with Herrell and Flores following this crook around like he's the god of otero county. when are they going to see this sorry excuse of a human being for what he is ... a complete and utter fraud ... a poser ... a loser ... did I mention crook? I hear he's a preacher. Oh yea, I really want to go to his church cause. What heaven is he trying to get to? Not one I would like to go to.

Come on people wake up and pay attention to what your representatives are doing. I don't mean 'for' us, but 'to' us.
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Two things: 1. Don't believe everything you hear! And 2. Don't believe everything you read!
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Ain't cha proud? We elected this guy! It's not like we didn't know...he was overtly self serving not to mention apallingly stupid (IMO) the last time he held office.
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To make a correction in your post. The money that was spent on the coyote problem was/is from the County Livestock Board/Grazing Board. It is being run through the County as the fiscal agent but is not "county money"
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The answer to this title is - Noone is.

The fox is in the henhouse and the farmer is asleep!!

and "IBWATCHINNOW", if this is all you have, just dig deeper and ask - there is so much more to be upset about at Otero County.

Look at their Bills Lists attached to their agendas online. Look at their "on the fly" pay raises outside the budget cycle. As recent as January/February.

What else you got?
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Well wrote:
To make a correction in your post. The money that was spent on the coyote problem was/is from the County Livestock Board/Grazing Board. It is being run through the County as the fiscal agent but is not "county money"


I beg to differ. Every cent is General Fund dollars. Not one red cent is from private sources. This I know for a fact!!!! You need to get YOUR facts straight.
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I looked at a bills list on the county website. Cell phone bills for a month were $5400!
Proud American

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You're right, one way or another, it is money from the tax-payers' purse.
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I beg to differ. Every cent is General Fund dollars. Not one red cent is from private sources. This I know for a fact!!!! You need to get YOUR facts straight.
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also, rardins secretary just got a $10,000 a year raise and less duties. Hum, what's missing in this picture.
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also, rardins secretary just got a $10,000 a year raise and less duties. Hum, what's missing in this picture.
I am guessing that she probably does a lot of his work. Does she work for all the commissioners or does each commissioner have their own administrative assistant? How do you know her work load has decreased?
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Cactus Flower wrote:
<quoted text> I am guessing that she probably does a lot of his work. Does she work for all the commissioners or does each commissioner have their own administrative assistant? How do you know her work load has decreased?
You ask him how he knows her work load decreased yet in your first sentence you state "I am GUESSING that she probably does a lot of his work". Maybe he is GUESSING also! Pot, kettle!
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another one wrote:
also, rardins secretary just got a $10,000 a year raise and less duties. Hum, what's missing in this picture.
Perhaps what's missing is that after working,watching tv, playing video games, and typing on the computer all day, few people are interested in directly asking these questions of the people working in government. Maybe people dont run for office and challenge them because it is safer to stay in our current jobs, like Sam D from Tularosa and others were talking about on another thread. And besides, who wants to have people they dont even know saying horrible things about them on Topix?
Amazing

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The next commission meeting is March 24th.

Is it true that they cancelled the preliminary work session because Susan Flores was going to be away in Hawaii? Was it county business?

Why don't the other two hold the meeting anyway? Maybe not cause Ronny Rardin was in Washington, DC. Was Herrell there also? It was a Government Paid trip at the swankiest of hotels, I'll bet??!!

Are they really hiring another person to run the computer department. If so this is yet another new hire!! In this economy they keep hiring.

They just hired a secretary for the secretaries. Is it true those two secretaries are getting a secretary to do work they did not want to do anymore? One secretary makes about $35,000 and the other makes about $48,000 with no college degrees. People are being paid wayyyyy to much!!
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The commissioners are having a special closed meeting this week.

Are they discussing a big pay raise "in this economy" for the County Manager?

Is he requesting up to a $40,000 raise, about 30%? He receives $100,000 now.

Is he worth this massive pay?

Go talk to him, you decide.

Why is all this done behind closed doors when Susan Flores promised transparency? Are her promises false?
Come on

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County Manager Raise wrote:
The commissioners are having a special closed meeting this week.
Are they discussing a big pay raise "in this economy" for the County Manager?
Is he requesting up to a $40,000 raise, about 30%? He receives $100,000 now.
Is he worth this massive pay?
Go talk to him, you decide.
Why is all this done behind closed doors when Susan Flores promised transparency? Are her promises false?
People arent interested in this. But they all know who Justin Beiber is. The government employees will continue to run things and spend your money. Big raises, big cell phone bills with the newest phones, nice cars, paid for gas, paid time off, the list goes on and we continue to do without these things and pay the taxes they use to get everything they want. They are not accountable to anyone because people are not interested in what they are doing.
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Come on wrote:
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People arent interested in this. But they all know who Justin Beiber is. The government employees will continue to run things and spend your money. Big raises, big cell phone bills with the newest phones, nice cars, paid for gas, paid time off, the list goes on and we continue to do without these things and pay the taxes they use to get everything they want. They are not accountable to anyone because people are not interested in what they are doing.
You are so right. It is unbelievable what has happened at Otero County in the last 3 months. At the election everyone seemed to care, but that was just election and probably just candidates and their committees stirring it up.

Now, every issue that people could not get past the last commission is being rushed through the new commission before the Newbies, Flores and Herrell, smarten up and know they are just being played like idiots. I think the Attorney bill was its highest ever? Around $22,000? Funny that happened just when the new commission comes on board.

They don't know any better or what to look for OR they don't care? Which is it?

IMHO, they will raise taxes, they will have to. The poor will be the first to feel it. Lambs to the voting booth, lambs to the slaughter!!
just me

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You guys don't know the half of it! I know for a fact that all the acquisitions stated in this thread are true. I don't know about the Flores and Hawaii thing. Sadly,'Come on' is right in that nobody cares. Each and every one of you should care because YOUR commissioners are wasting so much of YOUR money. They are downright committing fraud in some cases.
Perhaps I shouldn't say "they". More correctly, I should say Rardin.'DamS' is correct in that Rardin is taking advantage of of Flores and Herrell's freshman status. They would be well advised to put their trust in anybody but him. There is no shortage down there of people who can be trusted.
When Doug and Clarissa took office, at least they had the benefit of having an honorable incumbent (Mike Nivison) to help lead the way. Flores and Herrell have Rardin who is taking every advantage of their lack of experience to promote his corrupt agenda.
I know that Doug and Clarissa have had some bad press, but damn I miss them.
I want each of you to know that there are people down there who really care about doing the right thing with YOUR money and trust and there are others who only care about their own selfish interests. Sadly, most these are the individuals who are the decision makers.
I am not sure if Rardin is that corrupt or that stupid. Neither sounds like the lesser of two evils to me. Both are equally poisonous.
PLEASE, someone needs to give a damn and start getting involved. Those of us down there who are tying to do the right thing are drowning in this mess. Yes, I do work there and know what's going on.
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Mar 31, 2011
 
Amazing wrote:
They just hired a secretary for the secretaries. Is it true those two secretaries are getting a secretary to do work they did not want to do anymore? One secretary makes about $35,000 and the other makes about $48,000 with no college degrees. People are being paid wayyyyy to much!!
No, the secretary (assistant) was hired to take over the duties that Rardin's secretary no longer wants to do. The other girls aree fully capable of doing their jobs without help.
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just me wrote:
You guys don't know the half of it! I know for a fact that all the acquisitions stated in this thread are true. I don't know about the Flores and Hawaii thing. Sadly,'Come on' is right in that nobody cares. Each and every one of you should care because YOUR commissioners are wasting so much of YOUR money. They are downright committing fraud in some cases.
Perhaps I shouldn't say "they". More correctly, I should say Rardin.'DamS' is correct in that Rardin is taking advantage of of Flores and Herrell's freshman status. They would be well advised to put their trust in anybody but him. There is no shortage down there of people who can be trusted.
When Doug and Clarissa took office, at least they had the benefit of having an honorable incumbent (Mike Nivison) to help lead the way. Flores and Herrell have Rardin who is taking every advantage of their lack of experience to promote his corrupt agenda.
I know that Doug and Clarissa have had some bad press, but damn I miss them.
I want each of you to know that there are people down there who really care about doing the right thing with YOUR money and trust and there are others who only care about their own selfish interests. Sadly, most these are the individuals who are the decision makers.
I am not sure if Rardin is that corrupt or that stupid. Neither sounds like the lesser of two evils to me. Both are equally poisonous.
PLEASE, someone needs to give a damn and start getting involved. Those of us down there who are tying to do the right thing are drowning in this mess. Yes, I do work there and know what's going on.
Did you mean 'acquisitions' or 'accusations'?

I respect your opinion, but I'm still not sure I like what happened with Doug bypassing the bid process on the county building last year. The legal requirements/procedures for bids are in place for a reason, and I still believe they skirted them because they had a great amount of disrespect for the public they serve. When politicians/elected officials think they are above following correct procedures and answering to the public through the proper channels, you're headed for trouble. I'm glad we have a new commission.
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DamS wrote:
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You are so right. It is unbelievable what has happened at Otero County in the last 3 months. At the election everyone seemed to care, but that was just election and probably just candidates and their committees stirring it up.
Now, every issue that people could not get past the last commission is being rushed through the new commission before the Newbies, Flores and Herrell, smarten up and know they are just being played like idiots. I think the Attorney bill was its highest ever? Around $22,000? Funny that happened just when the new commission comes on board.
They don't know any better or what to look for OR they don't care? Which is it?
IMHO, they will raise taxes, they will have to. The poor will be the first to feel it. Lambs to the voting booth, lambs to the slaughter!!
Fascinating the lawyer bill. Yesterday I had the displeasure of listening to the county manager recounting how incompetent Dan Bryant is. What he actually said was Bryant's work was so sloppy and confusing that one contract was just going to be sent back out for bid nearly a year into the contract.

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