City logo may bear'In God We Trust'

City logo may bear'In God We Trust'

There are 140 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Jan 6, 2013, titled City logo may bear'In God We Trust'. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

The Alamogordo City Commission might display "In God We Trust" in city commission chambers, following in the footsteps of Artesia, which approved the measure late last year.

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Sinner

Alamogordo, NM

#68 Apr 2, 2013
Coconut Carl wrote:
"God My Ass" is the motto for anyone living in and working with reality.
with a strong non-belief such as yours why does it matter? If you are right than the rest of us are dumb. Why do you fight it so hard? Your non-belief is a religion unto it's own. LMAO!
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#69 Apr 2, 2013
A little background to the Mayor's "statement".

During the Spanish Inquisition, Catholics would find Jews by looking to see who ate pork. They’d offer pork to people they suspected of being Jewish, and if they refused to eat it, they were arrested. Because in the 1400s the only real Spaniard was a Catholic Spaniard. There was a holy war aimed at getting rid of the unwanted.

There was a holy war in the United States, too, in the 1950s. There was a man named Joe McCarthy and he waged a holy war against the atheists.”Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity,” Joe McCarthy, 1950.

To be clear, God was added to the Pledge and as a motto in the 1950s not because of a strong devotion to religion but out of a desire to find and punish atheists.

The House has just overwhelmingly reaffirmed the phrase “In God We Trust” as the national motto. A completely unnecessary move as George W. Bush signed a law in 2002 reaffirming it as the national motto, along with reaffirming “under God” in the pledge. Congress reaffirmed it as the national motto 5 years ago. 2 years ago, the phrase was added to the Capitol visitor center. And this ridiculous vote in the middle of economic crisis that Congress has repeatedly failed to address effectively? OK, so Congress likes God, now can they please get around to liking their constituents?

What drives me crazy is the refusal of the American people and the political establishment to recognize that the so-called tradition of God as part of these things only dates back to the 50s. Everyone seems to think that they were established at the beginning of the country, not as part of a witch-hunt. And they additionally refuse to recognize that not only is it conflating church and state, it is also endorsing the behavior of McCarthy and HUAC. SCOTUS on this issue:

It is quite obvious that the national motto and the slogan on coinage and currency ‘In God We Trust’ has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise.– Aronow v. United States, 1970
Agreed

Alamogordo, NM

#70 Apr 2, 2013
Gorky wrote:
A little background to the Mayor's "statement".
During the Spanish Inquisition, Catholics would find Jews by looking to see who ate pork. They’d offer pork to people they suspected of being Jewish, and if they refused to eat it, they were arrested. Because in the 1400s the only real Spaniard was a Catholic Spaniard. There was a holy war aimed at getting rid of the unwanted.
There was a holy war in the United States, too, in the 1950s. There was a man named Joe McCarthy and he waged a holy war against the atheists.”Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between communistic atheism and Christianity,” Joe McCarthy, 1950.
To be clear, God was added to the Pledge and as a motto in the 1950s not because of a strong devotion to religion but out of a desire to find and punish atheists.
The House has just overwhelmingly reaffirmed the phrase “In God We Trust” as the national motto. A completely unnecessary move as George W. Bush signed a law in 2002 reaffirming it as the national motto, along with reaffirming “under God” in the pledge. Congress reaffirmed it as the national motto 5 years ago. 2 years ago, the phrase was added to the Capitol visitor center. And this ridiculous vote in the middle of economic crisis that Congress has repeatedly failed to address effectively? OK, so Congress likes God, now can they please get around to liking their constituents?
What drives me crazy is the refusal of the American people and the political establishment to recognize that the so-called tradition of God as part of these things only dates back to the 50s. Everyone seems to think that they were established at the beginning of the country, not as part of a witch-hunt. And they additionally refuse to recognize that not only is it conflating church and state, it is also endorsing the behavior of McCarthy and HUAC. SCOTUS on this issue:
It is quite obvious that the national motto and the slogan on coinage and currency ‘In God We Trust’ has nothing whatsoever to do with the establishment of religion. Its use is of patriotic or ceremonial character and bears no true resemblance to a governmental sponsorship of a religious exercise.– Aronow v. United States, 1970
Good point Gorky. GOD has NOTHING to do with Religion! God bless you Gorky! LMAO!
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#71 Apr 2, 2013
The founding fathers fled Europe to keep religion and state separated for the good of both religion and state and for the survival of the empire. Generally, God is generally given credit for everything in the universe by religious people, which is harmless enough, should people want to believe that. I guess our job is to keep the two (church and state) separated as best we can for the good of both. Funny that some Christians and some politicians are politicking for the merger of both Church and State, when history has shown that it is the death of both if they are combined.
Global

Alamogordo, NM

#72 Apr 2, 2013
Gorky wrote:
The founding fathers fled Europe to keep religion and state separated for the good of both religion and state and for the survival of the empire. Generally, God is generally given credit for everything in the universe by religious people, which is harmless enough, should people want to believe that. I guess our job is to keep the two (church and state) separated as best we can for the good of both. Funny that some Christians and some politicians are politicking for the merger of both Church and State, when history has shown that it is the death of both if they are combined.
What do you not politicize? What in this country does not concern Politics? The government exempts the church from taxes, is that a seperation of church and state? The government then goes in to a church and kills dozen of people in Waco is that a seperation of church and state? Maybe you should stick to global warming..
gommom

Pittsburgh, PA

#73 Apr 2, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ……
God is a dead man died like any Human God is a Farth
Those

Alamogordo, NM

#74 Apr 2, 2013
gommom wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=i_QjjFEZpo 4 ……
God is a dead man died like any Human God is a Farth
videos you keep posting are seriously stupid. Your sense of humor must be up your ass..
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#75 Apr 2, 2013
Global wrote:
<quoted text>What do you not politicize? What in this country does not concern Politics? The government exempts the church from taxes, is that a seperation of church and state? The government then goes in to a church and kills dozen of people in Waco is that a seperation of church and state? Maybe you should stick to global warming..
Pastors and church leaders need to make a choice: feel free to talk politics all they want from the pulpit, but then be subject to pay their taxes or stick to Biblical issues and pay no taxes. Tax exemption for all American churches combined is a $71,000,000,000 per year windfall for the churches at the expense of the tax-payer. You can't have it both ways. "Everything is political", said the civil rights movement in the 1960s.

Maybe you should think or do research before you talk about things you know nothing about.
Pastor

Alamogordo, NM

#76 Apr 2, 2013
Gorky wrote:
<quoted text>
Pastors and church leaders need to make a choice: feel free to talk politics all they want from the pulpit, but then be subject to pay their taxes or stick to Biblical issues and pay no taxes. Tax exemption for all American churches combined is a $71,000,000,000 per year windfall for the churches at the expense of the tax-payer. You can't have it both ways. "Everything is political", said the civil rights movement in the 1960s.
Maybe you should think or do research before you talk about things you know nothing about.
Maybe both of you should come in for a prayer session. God bless..
The know

United States

#77 Apr 2, 2013
Does anyone else recall the movie where in the future all they watched at the theater was 9 hours of @$$? Seems to be where this country is headed.
The know

United States

#78 Apr 2, 2013
So If I understand this correct... The city vehicles logo will say in god we trust? It's a improvement of sorts..... Since we can't trust any work getting done. We have to have trust in something. Haha
Alamo

Alamogordo, NM

#80 Apr 3, 2013
Informed wrote:
That's it. What a brilliant idea. Advertise right on city vehicles just how ignorant and backwards the place really is.
God lives in Tularosa also child..
My God

Alamogordo, NM

#82 Apr 3, 2013
Informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Your city more closely resembles the old testament depictions of those villages that followed the false gods. Surely your god does not reward you for all of your faith with crumbling streets and economic dispair. How do you reconcile so many churches with so much misery? You can't even make a case for your god's existence based on the book proclaiming him and none have presented any case for trusting him sufficient to emblazon it across the city. How is this different from a rain dance or human saccrifice? Maybe they should add a rabbit's foot on all the city key rings. What has happened is that Alamogordo has warned those dependent on rational decision making to stay away. Besides, Alamogordo trusts every 2 bit hustler that comes to town with a scheme to sell. Surely your god would not send scammers to town and let them rape you for millions while the city implodes.
Is surely unlike your God in Tularosa. Maybe I will move..
Unholy Roller

Alamogordo, NM

#83 Apr 3, 2013
For the sake of accuracy and fairness it should read:

"In God some of us trust"

Of course accuracy and fairness are as rare as snowflakes in July in a polarized opinion storm.
It snows

Alamogordo, NM

#84 Apr 3, 2013
Unholy Roller wrote:
For the sake of accuracy and fairness it should read:
"In God some of us trust"
Of course accuracy and fairness are as rare as snowflakes in July in a polarized opinion storm.
in July in some places on this planet. Makes you think about your belief system now doesn't it..
Coconut Carl

Castle Rock, CO

#85 Apr 3, 2013
Which god are we supposed to trust in?

Bunch of ignorant idiots trying to shove mumbo jumbo bullshit religion down people's throats.
Maybe

Alamogordo, NM

#86 Apr 3, 2013
Coconut Carl wrote:
Which god are we supposed to trust in?
Bunch of ignorant idiots trying to shove mumbo jumbo bullshit religion down people's throats.
we should trust in a nut named Cocunut Carl who tries to shove mumbo jumbo bullshit down peoples throats that believe, because Carl is such a scared little chickenshit coward!
Gorky

Albuquerque, NM

#89 Apr 3, 2013
Global wrote:
<quoted text>What do you not politicize? What in this country does not concern Politics? The government exempts the church from taxes, is that a seperation of church and state? The government then goes in to a church and kills dozen of people in Waco is that a seperation of church and state? Maybe you should stick to global warming..
Everything is political. Exempting churches from taxation is an example of separation of church and state. Government interfering with a church is an example of government interfering with separation of church and state. I can do both global warming and church and state issues. Thanks for your concern, however.
whatever

Tularosa, NM

#90 Apr 7, 2013
Heisenberg wrote:
Lately, I've realized, that most of my life's problems could be solved by two lil friends, Mr Smith and Wesson. And no, I'm not talking about suicide.
How about their Austrian cousin GLOCK?
Coconut Carl

Castle Rock, CO

#91 Apr 8, 2013
Trust in gawd my ass. Religious bullshit munchers are master parasites running the biggest mumbo jumbo bullshit scam of all time.

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