Recovery center founder speaks

Eagle Forum's guest speaker Charles "Wes" Bush spoke about the U.S. government and his radical Christian philosophy, his Freedom House Recovery Center, and publishing his conservative newspaper "The Spokesmen." Bush said he is known as a radical. Full Story
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Psyche Daddy

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Sep 30, 2009
I think you're doing an excellent job and service to our community. I hope that some liberals will publish articles in your newspaper. This will open up topics for discussion. We need to talk and debate about what is going on in our country and look for a path to success.
grade0

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Sep 30, 2009
just what we need, another religious nut!

“Death of literacy - few notice”

Since: May 09

Alamo

#3 Oct 1, 2009
"Where are the liberals?- Oct.'09 - The Spokesmen
"by West Bush, Publisher -(excerpt)
"Where oh where did they go?
"After making it clear in every issue of The Spokesmen that all are invited to submit articles concerning their likes, dislikes, politics, recipes, poems, jokes, inspirational stories, testimonies, and on and on, it seems that most folks in Alamogordo and the surrounding area are simply mute, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE POLITILICALLY (sic) LIBERAL!
"WHY WON'T YOU LIBERALS SEND US YOUR ARTICLES? Is it that you are too illiterate to write your viewpoints? Or, is it that you are ashamed for your neighbors to know where you stand politically? Or, are you simply too lazy and wait for someone else to do it for you? the government, perhaps?

Well, who could resist such a pretty invitation? Apparently quite a few of us. I pick up The Spokesmen whenever it looks like a new issue (it's hard to tell when it's new, they don't put the date of publication in the masthead.) Then again, I read a lot. I think of myself as politically moderate. But I'm not interested in being screened by Mr. Bush, however much he denies it would happen.

No, I prefer to submit my stuff directly to the public here on Topix. Which is the point of the Internet - we don't need anyone's approval to address the public. That's one of the drawbacks to the old model of bulletin. Maybe if you printed directly on the Internet, & opened the Letters section to the Internet, you'd get more varied contributions? Just a suggestion.

But good luck with your publication. & get your editor to run his spellchecker a little more often. We'll be in touch.

“Ends never justify means”

Since: Dec 07

Alamogordo

#4 Oct 1, 2009
Too bad Rev Wes has to steal to fill that rag. I was outraged when one of my copyrighted photos ended up on "The Spokesman" front page. No permission was asked nor would it have been granted. If people can support an organization who would steal images then either the don't know or don't care. Personally I plan to write the businesses I frequent that carry The Spokesman to let them know. I wonder how local businesses feel about theives. Surely they would not want their merchandise stolen.
Duh

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Oct 1, 2009
Queen of Foo wrote:
Too bad Rev Wes has to steal to fill that rag. I was outraged when one of my copyrighted photos ended up on "The Spokesman" front page. No permission was asked nor would it have been granted. If people can support an organization who would steal images then either the don't know or don't care. Personally I plan to write the businesses I frequent that carry The Spokesman to let them know. I wonder how local businesses feel about theives. Surely they would not want their merchandise stolen.
Good luck, I am surprised that your fingers did not burst into flames while typing your comment.
High Rolls resident

Mescalero, NM

#6 Oct 1, 2009
The Rev believes every word of the Bible literally, but those silly Commandments only apply to us mortals.
Queen of Foo wrote:
Too bad Rev Wes has to steal to fill that rag. I was outraged when one of my copyrighted photos ended up on "The Spokesman" front page. No permission was asked nor would it have been granted. If people can support an organization who would steal images then either the don't know or don't care. Personally I plan to write the businesses I frequent that carry The Spokesman to let them know. I wonder how local businesses feel about theives. Surely they would not want their merchandise stolen.
Amazed

Alamogordo, NM

#7 Oct 2, 2009
I like to write and have some of my writing published in the ADN and elsewhere. I've read several editions of the "Statesman" and saw the stories and "jokes" ridiculing liberals and have concluded that this liberal progressive am not that keen on being the focus of more abuse, nor do I want to be in anyway associated with a publication that doesn't respect my Weltbild.
hoosier88 wrote:
"Where are the liberals?- Oct.'09 - The Spokesmen
"by West Bush, Publisher -(excerpt)
"Where oh where did they go?
"After making it clear in every issue of The Spokesmen that all are invited to submit articles concerning their likes, dislikes, politics, recipes, poems, jokes, inspirational stories, testimonies, and on and on, it seems that most folks in Alamogordo and the surrounding area are simply mute, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE POLITILICALLY (sic) LIBERAL!
"WHY WON'T YOU LIBERALS SEND US YOUR ARTICLES? Is it that you are too illiterate to write your viewpoints? Or, is it that you are ashamed for your neighbors to know where you stand politically? Or, are you simply too lazy and wait for someone else to do it for you? the government, perhaps?
Well, who could resist such a pretty invitation? Apparently quite a few of us. I pick up The Spokesmen whenever it looks like a new issue (it's hard to tell when it's new, they don't put the date of publication in the masthead.) Then again, I read a lot. I think of myself as politically moderate. But I'm not interested in being screened by Mr. Bush, however much he denies it would happen.
No, I prefer to submit my stuff directly to the public here on Topix. Which is the point of the Internet - we don't need anyone's approval to address the public. That's one of the drawbacks to the old model of bulletin. Maybe if you printed directly on the Internet, & opened the Letters section to the Internet, you'd get more varied contributions? Just a suggestion.
But good luck with your publication. & get your editor to run his spellchecker a little more often. We'll be in touch.

“Ends never justify means”

Since: Dec 07

Alamogordo

#8 Oct 4, 2009
Are things really getting this desperate when trying to find someone to speak these days? Who is screening those who are allowed to speak at the Eagle Forum? This is not the first time a con has addressed the forum. So they do not look into people before inviting them to speak? No vetting whatsoever as long as you are a republican? Maybe some new blood needs to be picking out who speaks and at least do a little checking into the person other than looking at their voter registration card.

Seriously at least look to see if a charity is really one before bringing them in front of your group to have them speak. Odd how a republican halfway house which has some 501(c)(3) issues (ie not listed with the IRS as one!) gets positive press while one operated by a Democrat is literally ran out of town. One of those things that make you go hmmm.

Okay back to my stolen property. Whatever happened to Thou shalt not steal?

Here is the image: http://tinyurl.com/ybsejof

EXIF information that shows date and time picture was taken and processed even what program I use to process the images! No attempt at an apology or excuse from this “man of god”. Just his blatant arrogance and disrespect. Can you image one laughing at the thought of being sued saying “I am judgment proof”. So because he claims to have nothing he thinks he can take what is not his and print things in his paper that harms others because he thinks he is judgment proof? Does that sound Christian like? BTW how legal is it for Bush to be living in that 5th wheel parked outside the halfway house. I thought there was something in the codes about that? But hey what does Rev Bush care about laws anyway? They clearly do not apply to “godly men”.
Psyche Daddy

Alamogordo, NM

#9 Oct 4, 2009
"Right click, save picture as"

You do those two things above and it makes you a thief?

“Ends never justify means”

Since: Dec 07

Alamogordo

#10 Oct 4, 2009
Psyche Daddy wrote:
"Right click, save picture as"
You do those two things above and it makes you a thief?
Yes, if it is copyrighted and you publish it you are a thief! You cannot print/publish stolen work. This should be common sense.

I take it you would have no problem taken such a picture to have it printed at walmart? Do you know walmart has a strict policy that you cannot print it unless you are the owner of it?

Tip of the day: If you did not take the picture then you are not the owner and have no right to print it!! If you are not the owner, it is stolen if you claim to be the owner!! Most people have the sense to either purchase the rights or ask permission to use it!! Bush did neither and even published it without credit.
Ex Cop

Alamogordo, NM

#11 Oct 4, 2009
Queen of Foo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, if it is copyrighted and you publish it you are a thief! You cannot print/publish stolen work. This should be common sense.
I take it you would have no problem taken such a picture to have it printed at walmart? Do you know walmart has a strict policy that you cannot print it unless you are the owner of it?
Tip of the day: If you did not take the picture then you are not the owner and have no right to print it!! If you are not the owner, it is stolen if you claim to be the owner!! Most people have the sense to either purchase the rights or ask permission to use it!! Bush did neither and even published it without credit.
Where is the link that shows that it is copyrighted?
Duh

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Oct 4, 2009
Nice grasshopper pic, I seen that somewhere. Company logo?
High Rolls resident

Mescalero, NM

#13 Oct 4, 2009
Ex Cop wrote:
<quoted text>Where is the link that shows that it is copyrighted?
let's recap. QoF took the picture. Wes stole it and printed it without permission. only a real RWN apologist would condone that action.

wonder what Psyche Daddy and ExCop would say if the picture had been hijacked by the Obama administration to do some propaganda? bet they would be all outraged then.

and Susa, I may be wrong about Wes being a pedo. I thought he had been arrested for having sex with an underage girl, but I cannot find further proof of that. so I retract that statement. on the other hand, if anyone has any evidence that he did, let us know.

in either case I'm sure he has some arrangement with God to exempt him from breaking those silly laws that only apply to the rest of us sinners.

“Ends never justify means”

Since: Dec 07

Alamogordo

#14 Oct 4, 2009
Duh wrote:
Nice grasshopper pic, I seen that somewhere. Company logo?
Sorry but once again you are wrong. Note date and time http://tinyurl.com/ybg89r8 Such desperation.
Psyche Daddy

Alamogordo, NM

#16 Oct 10, 2009
I thought the internet was public. If you put something on the internet and you don't want it copied, don't they have the technology to stop it from being copied. I guess I don't have a grip on our constitution. What if I take a picture of you holding a picture?

“I am so OVER Obama”

Since: Oct 09

Exile on Main Street

#17 Oct 10, 2009
Psyche Daddy wrote:
I thought the internet was public. If you put something on the internet and you don't want it copied, don't they have the technology to stop it from being copied. I guess I don't have a grip on our constitution. What if I take a picture of you holding a picture?
so would you have rights to the Mona Lisa because you downloaded a picture of it from the internet? are you supporting Ralph and his pedophile friend and the thief that fine old reverand do-as-i say but not as I do? you really have no defense of these people and I wonder why you are trying. maybe you should let Estes babysit your grandkids for a weekend and then get back with me.

like I said in another thread. don't try to ride this horse. I plan to beat it to DEATH!!!!
Michael Morris

United States

#18 Oct 10, 2009
Psyche Daddy wrote:
I thought the internet was public. If you put something on the internet and you don't want it copied, don't they have the technology to stop it from being copied. I guess I don't have a grip on our constitution. What if I take a picture of you holding a picture?
I often find your cellblock logic entertaining. This time is no exception. By you your somewhat ephemeral logic it is just fine to copy and paste an article published on the web as your own? How about a company logo?

Back to the cellhouse logic. I was wondering which law or case you could cite to support your contention that items not locked down to the maximum extent possible are just there for the taking?

I suppose this is simply a reflection of your character. You can't hide what's inside.
Susa

Mescalero, NM

#19 Oct 10, 2009
High Rolls resident wrote:
<quoted text>
so would you have rights to the Mona Lisa because you downloaded a picture of it from the internet? are you supporting Ralph and his pedophile friend and the thief that fine old reverand do-as-i say but not as I do? you really have no defense of these people and I wonder why you are trying. maybe you should let Estes babysit your grandkids for a weekend and then get back with me.
like I said in another thread. don't try to ride this horse. I plan to beat it to DEATH!!!!
If enough changes are made to an image so that it is no longer recognizable as even remotely like the original image, use is permitted in some cases, however, it's always good to check with the image owner first. Just take a look at Warhol's and Rauschenberg's work. However, if an image is copped without written permission, and is identical to the original, it is most definitely a copyright infringement. The only problem is that it is such a hassle for the owner of the original to take something like this to court. It is often more trouble than it is worth.

It is similar with music copyright infringement. I believe that the plagiarized work has to at least one or two measures that are identical to the original composition to support legal action. That is how some new composers get by with "sampling" a tiny part of another composer's work.

These are the main reasons that we take our own photos to work from doing art, and also why we use royalty-free music for our videos.

.
talker

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Oct 10, 2009
Bet ol' Wesley will talk more for cash
Psyche Daddy

Alamogordo, NM

#22 Oct 11, 2009
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
I often find your cellblock logic entertaining. This time is no exception. By you your somewhat ephemeral logic it is just fine to copy and paste an article published on the web as your own? How about a company logo?
Back to the cellhouse logic. I was wondering which law or case you could cite to support your contention that items not locked down to the maximum extent possible are just there for the taking?
I suppose this is simply a reflection of your character. You can't hide what's inside.
You guys scream about your rights. Well, your rights are currenly being taken away
from you and you don't realize it and then you gripe at me for taking your rights away.

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