Judge it!Thank you so much! Finally people who understand that this is ruining the lives of so many people, so many families. If you read this, i want to know how i can help in anyway. i would like to volunteer some of my time.Don't despair! There are some intelligent people left in the world. Don't let them fight alone.
If you have never heard of LEAP, watch this video:
http://leap.cc/Multimedia/audiovideo/csdp_pro...
I promise your spirits will be raised.
Alamo Heights, TX
Attorneys Questioning New Drug Testing Lab
- Posted in the Alamo Heights Forum
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The very best thing you can do is get the word out! Tell your friends. Email them the video link or LEAPs home page addy. Tell people. The only way things will change is when people are informed. We have been so successful at indoctrinating ourselves as a country that the effort required to overcome it is going to be significant. That requires numbers.
Tell people. |
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Ok. i will tell people. Thank You! |
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That is the MOST IDIOTIC Group I have seen in a while- Legalize?- OUT of Hundreds of Thousands of Law Enforcement Officers - they can only find, at MOST 100 Leftist Ex- Hippies to support the Idea....Real Meritorious that idea is....< Smirking> It would Be Valid to compare their Idea of Legalization with same idea In the UK when they temporarily legalized Pot and Heroin Many years ago- Their Crime Rate Skyrocketed !!!!- Theft,Assault, Robbery, Burglery,Rape, to name a few- and Due to the LEGALIZATION of those Items- It is worth noting you FAIL to Mention that as does that group !!!- Trying to liken it in similarity with Apartheid !!That is ABSOLUTLY False as is their Premise. Please -get a GOOD argumentand Back it up and I would consider it - but that is NO argument at all |
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The post above is a prime example of how we as a country have propagandized ourselves into stupidity. It's obvious to me that the person above did not even bother to become knowledgeable about what he posted on. They latch on to a single fact or number and this is their defense for continuing a failed and destructive policy. The membership of LEAP includes THOUSANDS of POLICE, JUDGES, PROSECUTORS, DEA AGENTS, and about every other type of drug warrior out there.(The promo video is a couple of years old and the membership has grown significantly and continues to grow at even higher rates). When THESE people tell you it's a waste of time and money, I suggest you listen because these are the ones who actually try to uphold an unenforceable law. You probably think we can arrest our way out of drugs. Real smart. OK, smart guy, what's YOUR answer? More cops? More prisons? More money? More destroyed lives and families? Ever increasing profits for drug dealers that drives an even more robust black market? I know... maybe if the cops "tried harder"! That's it! The cops just aren't trying hard enough. That's why we got rid of prohibition in the 30's, because it worked so well. If you think this "war on drugs" is a good thing, your an idiot and the statistics bear it out. Prohibition does FAR more damage, in EVERY way, than the actual drug problem it's supposed to "solve". So, instead of just insulting people's opinions, why don't you put that steel trap mind of yours to work and tell us where we are wrong. Of course, this dweeb probably thinks we should just arrest anyone who farts too loud. |
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The Above reply to My post is a Prime example of People not needing to use these products- as their Thought Prosess is not Based in Reality- that being- Legalization CAUSES MORE problems than the Current system and Laws do. Having Ignored the Example I provided above, Still Believes That Legalization would Be "Okay". I did Not state I " had the Answer" , but the Responant Blames the System instead of laying Blame where it should be At- the Very mentality he/she espouse- that of Self Centered, Self Indulgent ,Lack of Personal Responsibility for Making Individual Poor choices- NOBODY EVER forced these people to Do Narcotics, nor were they Tgreatened with harm if the were indulge in their Dope- the CHOSE to- they Destroyed their families, they are Incarcerated due to THEIR PERSONAL Choice to do so- be it for fun or Lack of Morals, Greed etc. The " Membership He/she Purports "in the THOUSANDS " is Incorrect- as thire Website Proves- it consiists of some FORMER Law Enforcement Members that are Disgruntled for A number of other reasons- the MAJORITY of them are NOT Law enforcement- and are the Usual "Legalize it now " crowd you see on the Web- The same people that will complain about Drunk Drivers - unless it is them being arrested for DWI- then it is " Not Fair/Not right" . Would these same people ride on an Airplane with a Piolet who was An ADDICT ? I think Not- but with Legalization there is a greater possibility for this- as the same Group would claim it a Discriminatory Practice to Not hire Surgeons,Semi Drivers,Pilots that were " Recreationallly " using these Narcotics- FYI - I came from a country that had a 0.001 % Criminal Narcotic Problem,Theft Problem, Murder Rate in 50 Years |
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Another person who misses the overall message and thinks this is about individual morals and values. "Punish first, ask questions later"... The battle cry of someone who has been completely indoctrinated by a perfect storm of propaganda. Someone who can't see the forest for the trees. The statistics they refer to in their post don't exist and the country with "0.001% Criminal Narcotic Problem,Theft Problem, Murder rate" does not exist. LEAP was FOUNDED by 5 RETIRED (not disgruntled) drug cops. No country has ever legalized hard drugs or collected the statistics "referenced" in the last post. Law enforcement membership numbers can be confirmed by requesting it from LEAP. The membership shown on the web site is for non-law enforcement members only. This is not about individual morals or values, this is about reducing the crime and violence caused by the policy of prohibition. a policy that is doing far more damage then the drugs it is supposed to stop. In any "war", the first task is to demonize the "enemy" (people who have made some bad choices). The post above is a product of the type of thinking that produces. Don't SOLVE the problem, just punish anyone who makes a bad choice.(I wonder how many people would be in jail if EVERYONE were punished for every bad choice they ever made? Ie. Bush, Cheney, Obama, Clinton, most of congress, etc.) Do you think we can solve this problem with more cops, more prisons, more money, more laws, more PAIN? Arresting people will not solve the "drug problem". We need to get rid of the profit motive for the criminals. Period. THEN we can address our "drug problem". And finally, I realize your not from here and that english is probably not your first language, but, if you want to increase your credibility here, couldn't you at least use the "spell check" function? |
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My son is on probation and this is his first positive test, its funny that is happened at the new treatment center san antonio got, before when they would test him at the old place across from the probation office, they would finger print them and have there name on the jar and he pass all of them, the new place doesnt even have a back up jar for retesting and they just stick a red tag on it. My son has been doing everyting in his power to straighten his life out and they come up with this. He's 23yrs and has been doing community service and trying his best to keep on the right track and get off of probation. If he was doing drugs I would be the first one to contact his probation officer! He was shock and I was mad, I thought he did it! he swore he didnt and was ready to take a hair folical test to prove it. We need to stop locking these people up and get them help. giving false testing does'nt help. I think San Antionio messed up, when they got cheap way out on drug testing, What ever happen to compassion and helping each other. Thanks for showing Leap Video. dianhawk
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We are in the same situation. I have contacted the media and they said its out there, they have done there story and they are still receiving calls. |
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Once again a Criminal claims" I;m Innocent " it was a basd test, corrupt police, etc and you want to take the wqord of a proven crook and liar over that of Professional , decent people? Geez
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I am the son she spoke of above. How much more ignorant could you possibly be guy? You think that the drug testing lab could be right 100% of the time? I'd bet that mistakes happen in their. I've spoken to numerous people (about 10-15) who swear up and down that the same thing happened to them as it did me. If I had done the drugs I would grab my nuts and not deny it, because then i would actually deserve to be locked up. Treatment Associates made a mistake. On another note you have the spelling skills of a six year old. I dont mean to be rude but you seem as smart as a box of rocks. Just sayin though...
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wow!! this is crazy. my boyfriend went to his probation meeting today on his lunch break only to find out the had a warrant out for his arrest and a MTR. The MTR has on there that he tested positive for opiates, methamphetamine, and cocaine!!! now, my boyfriend likes to drink BUT THATS ALL. He has never, is not, and will never be a druggie. I know that because I know him and we have been together for a LONG time and have a child together. Guess what? He took his UA at that lab on San Pedro, which he describes at nasty and filthy. We dont know what to do. We are in the process of saving up for a home and now that money is going to go to fight this. Do any of you all know of good attorneys? I wonder with all that is going on with this place if maybe a class action lawsuit can be filed against them. They dont realize it but this can ruin someones life. I know he screwed up by getting arrested the first time. he faced his punishment and was doing everything he needed to for his probation. now this....
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Old News- ALL criminals CLAIM they are "Innocent" of the Charges
New News- Had he taken care to ABIDE by the Law - and NOT BROKEN the Law- he would not of PUT HIMSELF in the situation where His CHOICE in continuing to misbehave BREAKING the Law and NOT follow the conditions of the Probation would result in a Warrant for ARREST OF NON COMPLIANCE |
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Are you God? What makes you so perfect? who cares if the guy did'nt do it! he's guilty! just put him or her away in prison. Your ignorant, you cant argue with an ignorent! |
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1- Never did I post I was God
2- I never did post that I was Perfect 3- The USUAL claim of the Guilty- "I did'nt do it" even when caught in the act..... 4-Seems that these people do not take ANY personal Responsiblility for thier CHOSEN actions- they Chose to BREAK the LAw AND to Break the Conditions of their release 5-Ignorant describes you,as you failed to understand my point in the Post ( You are also the one that is not proficient in English as exampled in your post- Ignorant is described as " Lack of Learning and Understanding ". It has your picture next to it in the Dictionary) |
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1) YOU DONT KNOW THESE PEOPLE AND WHAT THERE CRIME WAS.
2) SOME OF THEM HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY.NOT ALL. 3) TO MANY POSITIVE TESTING, AND THE WAY TREAMENT ASS. IS RESPONDING. OPEN UP YOUR EYES, STOP BEING SO NARROW MINDED. ONE WAY --WHO-- |
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got a hair follicle drug test and guess what NEGATIVE on EVEYTHING.
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who - you are a moron. my botfriend took responsibility for his actions when he got in trouble and put on probation. he knows he screwed up and rather than wasting taxpayers money and time on a case that very easily could have been stretched out for years he admitted to his mistake and took his punishment. he has done everything asked of him with his probation. he attended classes, did community service, got an ignition interlock system, stopped drinking, paid his fines up to this point, attended all his probation meetings. he went to his last meeting only to be arrested for someone else's errors. he was told he violated his probation because he tested positive for 3 very illegal classes of narcotics. he does not do drugs. he is a hardworking person. he has a family, and he is helping to put me through college. he is a good person. he was on his lunch break when he went to his probation meeting. because someone at that damn lab screwed up he was arrested. just in this week alone we have had to come up with over 1000 dollars because someone didnt do their job right. he may end up in jail and leave his daughter without her father for sometime because bexar county cares more about saving a couple bucks than getting ACCURATE drug tests done. Because of someone elses stupidity he lost his job. FYI, the day after he was released on bail he went to Analytical Toxicology and paid for a hair follicle drug test so that way he could prove his innocence. Guess what. He tested NEGATIVE for ALL drugs. So you know what - people do mess up. Some learn from their screw ups and some dont. But not everyone is alike. There are actually people who mess up and learn from it and try to better themselves. It is not right that this lab can continously ruin peoples lives by reporting innaccurate information. And yes, his original drug test where he tested positive was Treatment Assoc. on San Pedro, just like so many others. They are the guilty ones here and that place and everyone that works there should face criminal action.
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now tell me...if you think he did not abide by the terms of his probation and violated them - then please tell me how. just because you screw up once doesnt mean that the courts can keep coming at you and charging you for things you did not do.
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"not alone" - you ARE , in any Real sense of the word , ALONE- the only people that would support your Nonsense 1- Cannot Vote ( Felons) 2- do nott bother to vote if they are not Felons, 3- Do not have any real support in any community 4- Their records show for themselves , therefore CANNOT get any support- except fro small fringe groups without any power. I am sure the follow up test was from a completely Neutral point of testingand scientific Metjodology..., as the PROFIT they got had nothing to do with their testing of the follicle. About as Neutral as a Paid expert Wittness for the Defense....He ( your friend) made a mistake , perhaps yes, perhaps no, I will give him benefit of the Doubt for the First Mistake.But EVERY criminal claims " I did Not do it", adn typical behavior is that he DID, the ONLY way he could show a trace for it was if he Ingested a small amount( breaking his conditions) or Inadverdently got a trace amount- meaning he was AROUND it- also Violating his Conditions- POst all you want here , waste your time- time you should be using to Keep him out of Prison. as the Extra 1.47 Hours you spent here in las Month POSTIN alone could of MAde the Difference for your P.O.S##T Friend, that does not count the time you took to READ posts.....tell him " do not drop the soap" when in the Prison from me - the CROOK
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