Fight the Texas Driver Responsibility Law

[outnleftfield]

Jim-B wrote:

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email sent.

I sincerely apologize for falsely accusing you as well as insulting you but I still think t's time for reform and change only happens when either uncomfortable or excilerating. I see nothing changing until it's too late for some reason . On that I have a multitude of opinions. I may again be disagreeable to your ideals but will try to be less out of control when addressing the unknown.
I am also a junior troll slayer and I still attract and attact them like it's a holy jihad...aaaaah lallahllahhllahhh! Hope you have a sense of humor, if not hang around and mine may rub off.

[Jim-B]

outnleftfield wrote:

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I sincerely apologize for falsely accusing you as well as insulting you but I still think t's time for reform and change only happens when either uncomfortable or excilerating. I see nothing changing until it's too late for some reason . On that I have a multitude of opinions. I may again be disagreeable to your ideals but will try to be less out of control when addressing the unknown.
I am also a junior troll slayer and I still attract and attact them like it's a holy jihad...aaaaah lallahllahhllahhh! Hope you have a sense of humor, if not hang around and mine may rub off.

I also apologize. My responses were inappropriate to send to a lady, no matter how wrong she is ;)

That was a JOKE, by the way.(Note the little winkie smiley semicolon parentheses thingie I put at the end of it!)

[outnleftfield]

Jim-B wrote:

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I also apologize. My responses were inappropriate to send to a lady, no matter how wrong she is ;)
That was a JOKE, by the way.(Note the little winkie smiley semicolon parentheses thingie I put at the end of it!)

LOL true true ! and I got the joke <@ that's a rose :), u can pass it to your own lady!

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

outnleftfield wrote:

<quoted text> Will sign and foward more like minded free thinkers your way!

thanks, I do appreciate very much! Tamara's petition has attracted some attention-it's those like you who help!

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

Jim B wrote:

WAAAAA the Man is keeping me down
WAAAAA all of my problems are somebody else's fault
WAAAAA anybody who has a different opinion than I do is a "puppet"
WAAAA WAAAA WAAAA
What keeps me busy is my family and job (not averaging 10+ posts a day, every day, for over a year.) I am responsible for myself and my family. Not the government, the state, or anything or anyone else for that matter. Me. Part of that RESPONSIBILITY is making sure that they are protected from people that endanger others without thought of any possible negative consequence.
If an uninsured motorist causes an accident that injures somebody else, who do you think should be held responsible? If they can't afford insurance then they definitely can't afford to come out of pocket to pay somebody else's medical bills. It sounds like you think the injured, not at fault party should have to pay just because the person who had the accident "couldn't afford the insurance". Or maybe you think the government should pay?
As I stated in an earlier post, having adequate insurance is part of the cost of operating a motor vehicle legally in this state or any other. If you do not have the required insurance you are placing others at risk and you should be cited.
Sometimes it's not all about YOU.
Sorry sister, sometimes life is hard.

Jim, I understand exactly where you are coming from there! My husband works hard for us, his family. However, the court, judge, atty for the court and the TX DPS Clerks did not advise me of the TX DRL when I specifically asked them if I need to pay future fines or penalites. They said NO, and did not tell me about the TX DRL till 4 years later.
You do not get the money paid, the TX Mobility fund does. The hospitals/trauma centers are suppose to get half, but I can't find their records, yet. Why doesn't this money go to relieve Texans of high insurance rates? Or to those injured by Drunk Drivers? Why doesn't the money go to the people? That is my big arguement but the money will never go to us and the law is a failure. It needs to be repealed.

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

outnleftfield wrote:

did you make out that hatchet job of a post I put the critters up should be smooth sailing from here out.
Now Jim lets quit being this way and lets discuss this in depth.
Cost of Insurance mo..$35 to infinity..
Cost of fuel $3.50 to infinity...
Cost of living $1000. minus insurance , health home or auto.
min rent mortg. 500
min urility 300
cost of food.. 50 o 100 wkly
Average weekly earnings of many $500. and that's the high side..
should we start exiling the poor?
or will we bury them , take their kids ,put them in debtors prison?
prepare for this to be a lengthy one , unless you wanna call it a draw.
guess what , many can't do it without breaking a few laws, some just drive without insurance others cheat welfare or sell drugs or their bodies, what do you want for this nation , more of the same filth or a fresh start.
The stats aren't official they are based on a few ppl who I know earn as much as possible and still not enough!
I make others business mine just like you , hate me hate yourself bud.:)

I didn't think anyone else saw the bigger picture other than the few of us. Thanks Outnleftfield.

Unfortunately, it is true. The wealthy are rarly impacted by this greedy law. It is statistically shown that it impacts the poor/middle class severly.

[Jim-B]

FightTheTxDriverRespLaw wrote:

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Jim, I understand exactly where you are coming from there! My husband works hard for us, his family. However, the court, judge, atty for the court and the TX DPS Clerks did not advise me of the TX DRL when I specifically asked them if I need to pay future fines or penalites. They said NO, and did not tell me about the TX DRL till 4 years later.
You do not get the money paid, the TX Mobility fund does. The hospitals/trauma centers are suppose to get half, but I can't find their records, yet. Why doesn't this money go to relieve Texans of high insurance rates? Or to those injured by Drunk Drivers? Why doesn't the money go to the people? That is my big arguement but the money will never go to us and the law is a failure. It needs to be repealed.

I am not sticking up for the lawyers or the judge, I have no idea what happened to you in court. But I do have one simple question for you: Did you drive without insurance?

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

Jim-B wrote:

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I am not sticking up for the lawyers or the judge, I have no idea what happened to you in court. But I do have one simple question for you: Did you drive without insurance?

Please read full comment, because I think you might have missed some of the info. Yes, I drove without car insurance AND I paid the ALL fines and was released from future penalites from the TX DPS and State of Texas. Again, the judge, atty for the court, TX DPS clerks, ect, NEVER advised me of the TX DRL and that I would have to pay. My reciepts from the court indicate I full filled the court obligations and I'm released. The TX DRL never made major headlines and was kept in the dark. I had no idea it exsisted or that I had to pay it.

It was a shock to get the notice 4 years later. Many people are not notified and unknowingly have their DL suspended. The result is that more Texas drivers are unknowingly driving without valid DL.

I know you are not sticking up for the lawyers or judges: you are forming your own opinion and expressing it.(I appreciat it) The result of the TX DRL is failure. It needs to go and have a productive one in it's place.

[outnleftfield]

FightTheTxDriverRespLaw wrote:

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I didn't think anyone else saw the bigger picture other than the few of us. Thanks Outnleftfield.
Unfortunately, it is true. The wealthy are rarly impacted by this greedy law. It is statistically shown that it impacts the poor/middle class severly.

It's as clear as glass , which is why it gets overlooked so often. i have ideas that make it work for all but it means there are no more wealthy beyond reason, billionaires would become extinct. priorities would be recalibrated, medical expenses would be reduced for health risks and raised for vanity purpposes. There would be more sin taxs and less sales tax. It is a utopia that will only exist after capitalism is abolished! Never gonna' happen ! but what if? ;)

[John]

This is good law. Just like a $1 pack on citarettes, only those stupid enough to smoke pay the tax and only those idiot drivers out there who are either bad drivers or irresponsible drivers pay the "taxes" from the Texas Driver Responsibility Law. Bottom line, I hope it gets those irresponsible drivers off the road.

[Tyrone]

John wrote:

This is good law. Just like a $1 pack on citarettes, only those stupid enough to smoke pay the tax and only those idiot drivers out there who are either bad drivers or irresponsible drivers pay the "taxes" from the Texas Driver Responsibility Law. Bottom line, I hope it gets those irresponsible drivers off the road.

You crazy man. Why shud I pay for my tickets and then pay again. I cannot afford insurance and I have several tickets. If I pay for the fees I cant buy smokes or wine. If I drive and hit somebody so what. Everyone shud just give me my driving space and stay out of my way. This law is not helping me stay driving. Peace out.

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

John wrote:

This is good law. Just like a $1 pack on citarettes, only those stupid enough to smoke pay the tax and only those idiot drivers out there who are either bad drivers or irresponsible drivers pay the "taxes" from the Texas Driver Responsibility Law. Bottom line, I hope it gets those irresponsible drivers off the road.

actually John, since the TX DRL has taken effect: 7 out of 10 motorists haven't paid their surcharges, resulting in a suspended DL. The number of drivers without DL has climbed continously since the TX DRL passed.

Still think it will get the "irresponsible" off the road?

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

Tyrone wrote:

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You crazy man. Why shud I pay for my tickets and then pay again. I cannot afford insurance and I have several tickets. If I pay for the fees I cant buy smokes or wine. If I drive and hit somebody so what. Everyone shud just give me my driving space and stay out of my way. This law is not helping me stay driving. Peace out.

Although I don't entirely agree with Tyrone: he is right about having to pay again. This is just a scam on the poor, like me.

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

Gracchus, the appt w/ Governor's office next week. YEAH! Now, I'm not meeting w/ Perry this time. But I wanted to ask for your help because you are very informed and can help me sharpen the appt. Possible that I may ask you?

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

ike wrote:

"How would you feel about paying a ticket, addressing all the fines, then suddenly finding out there's an arrest warrant out for you, because of a second fine that even your local court and police knew nothing about it?
A second fine that was intentionally called a surcharge? Surely you're familiar with surcharges,... Texas DPS had a 5% surcharge on some friggen transportation issue that was ridiculous in nature for decades that was only recently repealed."
So, you're saying that if you get a ticket and pay it, then you get another fine that nobody tells you about? That can't be the case can it?

Yes, Ike, that is exactly the case.

[Jim-B]

outnleftfield wrote:

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It's as clear as glass , which is why it gets overlooked so often. i have ideas that make it work for all but it means there are no more wealthy beyond reason, billionaires would become extinct. priorities would be recalibrated, medical expenses would be reduced for health risks and raised for vanity purpposes. There would be more sin taxs and less sales tax. It is a utopia that will only exist after capitalism is abolished! Never gonna' happen ! but what if? ;)

WTF???????
OK, this has got to be a joke... I see the semicolon winky smiley thingie...
You actually almost got blood to squirt outta my eye... ;)

[Jim-B]

FightTheTxDriverRespLaw wrote:

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actually John, since the TX DRL has taken effect: 7 out of 10 motorists haven't paid their surcharges, resulting in a suspended DL. The number of drivers without DL has climbed continously since the TX DRL passed.
Still think it will get the "irresponsible" off the road?

Maybe the "irresponsible" should do a little time then, since apparently the fines don't work...

[Jim-B]

FightTheTxDriverRespLaw wrote:

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Yes, Ike, that is exactly the case.

I find this hard to believe. If that was truly the case, I think somebody would have challenged it in court by now...

[Jim-B]

FightTheTxDriverRespLaw wrote:

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Although I don't entirely agree with Tyrone: he is right about having to pay again. This is just a scam on the poor, like me.

I think that was a spoof sarcastic post.... just a thought...

[FightTheTxDriver RespLaw]

Jim-B wrote:

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Maybe the "irresponsible" should do a little time then, since apparently the fines don't work...

Oh, Jim. I HAD hope for you! You did seem like one who would look at both sides and make an educated opinoin. We will agree to disagree. Thanks for your info and opinion.