Money grab is coming to I-80 in Pa.

Money grab is coming to I-80 in Pa.

There are 16 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Aug 15, 2008, titled Money grab is coming to I-80 in Pa.. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

If you're looking for a free ride, don't head east. It's bad enough that Pennsylvania has one of the worst toll roads in America, the skinny, winding strip of Interstate 76 known as the Pennsylvania Turnpike.

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Dr Pepper

Dayton, OH

#1 Aug 15, 2008
Actually, very old news. This has been kicked around for several years now. They have to get permission from the Feds to do this, and thus far at least, the Feds have been reluctant to give their OK.

Hopefully they(Feds)will continue to keep it from happening. I know I will not be paying those tolls--as I wll exit before the booth & re-enter afteward, tho it will likely add an hour or so to the drive across the state.

But considering they are planning a toll of $25 each way, it's worth the extra time.

“"It is what it is..."”

Since: Dec 07

Akron, Ohio

#2 Aug 15, 2008
Except that sometimes police, fire and ems personnel have to drive the wrong way on exit ramps.....
Todd

Cleveland, OH

#3 Aug 15, 2008
so there will be no highway from Ohio to the North east coast that isn't a toll road?

NY thru way. Toll road (very nice road by the way)

76 toll road in PA.

If 80 goes toll road you can't get thru to the east coast with out paying more.

If your in chicago you have to pay on a toll road basically all the way from there. That's nuts.

Since: Mar 07

Danville, CA

#4 Aug 15, 2008
Dr Pepper wrote:
Actually, very old news. This has been kicked around for several years now. They have to get permission from the Feds to do this, and thus far at least, the Feds have been reluctant to give their OK.
Hopefully they(Feds)will continue to keep it from happening. I know I will not be paying those tolls--as I wll exit before the booth & re-enter afteward, tho it will likely add an hour or so to the drive across the state.
But considering they are planning a toll of $25 each way, it's worth the extra time.
It isn't old, it's prehistoric. There has been talk about tolling I-80 across Pennsylvania for over twenty years.

The Federal waiver to allow it already exists. It was in an infrastructure bill several years ago. That's why so many people in Pennsylvania are up in arms about it. They know it's gonna happen.

I've traveled that road so often in my life that I could almost navigate it with my eyes closed and one night about twenty years ago, I almost did.

If having a toll means the road can receive the badly needed upgrades it requires, more power to them.

Since: Mar 07

Danville, CA

#5 Aug 15, 2008
Todd wrote:
so there will be no highway from Ohio to the North east coast that isn't a toll road?
NY thru way. Toll road (very nice road by the way)
76 toll road in PA.
If 80 goes toll road you can't get thru to the east coast with out paying more.
If your in chicago you have to pay on a toll road basically all the way from there. That's nuts.
The Erie and Niagara sections of the NYS Thruway are very nice roads that require A LOT of care due to the severe winters that part of the country experiences.
HuH

Strongsville, OH

#6 Aug 15, 2008
rootvg wrote:
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The Erie and Niagara sections of the NYS Thruway are very nice roads that require A LOT of care due to the severe winters that part of the country experiences.
DNFTT
Todd

Cleveland, OH

#7 Aug 15, 2008
who exactly are you calling a troll? HuH?

rootvg didn't say anything trollish
and neither did I.

“I'm as Mad as Hell...”

Since: Mar 07

Your Neighbor & Friend

#8 Aug 15, 2008
Todd wrote:
who exactly are you calling a troll? HuH?
rootvg didn't say anything trollish
and neither did I.
Toll/Troll. Either rootvg committed a typo, or he mistook you for Sheldon Ocker.

Bobbo's columns always stir up fun on these boards.
So go the roads

Strongsville, OH

#9 Aug 15, 2008
so go the sewers.
Dr Pepper

Dayton, OH

#10 Aug 15, 2008
rootvg wrote:
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It isn't old, it's prehistoric. There has been talk about tolling I-80 across Pennsylvania for over twenty years.
The Federal waiver to allow it already exists. It was in an infrastructure bill several years ago. That's why so many people in Pennsylvania are up in arms about it. They know it's gonna happen.

If having a toll means the road can receive the badly needed upgrades it requires, more power to them.
There has been NO Federal OK for tolling on I-80. In fact, the Feds have rejected(way back in 2007) the application and asked for more info, which has not been supplied as yet. Take a look at the URL below explaing the status of everything.

http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/comment...

As for maintenance, PA has been dragging their heels on maintenance of I-80(tho they sure have enough orange barrels on it most of the summer)just so they have an excuse to use for tolling it.
Don't expect major improvement in the unlikely event it does get tolled. The Chicago Skyway has always been a toll road and always been poorly paved.
Dr Pepper

Dayton, OH

#12 Aug 15, 2008
rootvg wrote:
<quoted text>
It isn't old, it's prehistoric. That's why so many people in Pennsylvania are up in arms about it. They know it's gonna happen.

If having a toll means the road can receive the badly needed upgrades it requires, more power to them.
I don't blame those people for being up in arms. If by some political chicanery it does get tolled, the locals get screwed in so many ways: paying to be on it themselves for commuting or shopping, losing tourist trade(people who don't wanna pay so take another road, or people feeling gouged by the tolls deciding not to overnight or spend as much for meals), losing the jobs/etc generated by fuel sales(truck tolls would be even higher, so truckers would use other roads), heavier traffic on local roads & through their towns as people leave I-80 to avoid the toll collection points. All in all, a lose-lose-lose for the locals.
dyer dog walks

Strongsville, OH

#13 Aug 15, 2008
must have just come back from Canal Park on Thursday. He is frisky about another state.

Since: Mar 07

Danville, CA

#14 Aug 17, 2008
Dr Pepper wrote:
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I don't blame those people for being up in arms. If by some political chicanery it does get tolled, the locals get screwed in so many ways: paying to be on it themselves for commuting or shopping, losing tourist trade(people who don't wanna pay so take another road, or people feeling gouged by the tolls deciding not to overnight or spend as much for meals), losing the jobs/etc generated by fuel sales(truck tolls would be even higher, so truckers would use other roads), heavier traffic on local roads & through their towns as people leave I-80 to avoid the toll collection points. All in all, a lose-lose-lose for the locals.
Look, this kind of thing is already common in southern states. It's been spreading across Texas and Florida for a number of years.

The infrastructure needs in that part of the country are significant and that costs money. Trucks aren't going to use US 322 or US 22 or US 6 or I-68 because it doesn't make sense.

This should happen and I think it will happen.

Since: Mar 07

Danville, CA

#15 Aug 17, 2008
Dr Pepper wrote:
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There has been NO Federal OK for tolling on I-80. In fact, the Feds have rejected(way back in 2007) the application and asked for more info, which has not been supplied as yet. Take a look at the URL below explaing the status of everything.
http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/comment...
As for maintenance, PA has been dragging their heels on maintenance of I-80(tho they sure have enough orange barrels on it most of the summer)just so they have an excuse to use for tolling it.
Don't expect major improvement in the unlikely event it does get tolled. The Chicago Skyway has always been a toll road and always been poorly paved.
You're wrong.

http://www.cumberlink.com/articles/2008/07/20...

Act 44 is settled law. A few Congressmen are trying to get a judge to hold it back but it's gonna happen.
Something Wicked

Stow, OH

#16 Aug 17, 2008
Dactyl wrote:
Except that sometimes police, fire and ems personnel have to drive the wrong way on exit ramps.....
Just a thought... if they can control the traffic lights in an emergency, couldn't they control the wrong way spikes? That is if that idea is ever implemented.

“"It is what it is..."”

Since: Dec 07

Akron, Ohio

#17 Aug 23, 2008
Something Wicked wrote:
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Just a thought... if they can control the traffic lights in an emergency, couldn't they control the wrong way spikes? That is if that idea is ever implemented.
The city of Akron doesnt use "light blocks" anymore. About the only thing we can do is turn the traffic light green in our direction of travel and there arent very many intersections that use them yet. They are the blue lights that you see on top of some of the light posts. If you are approaching and change the cadence of the siren from "wail" to "yelp" within a hundred feet it will change the light to green.

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