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Another process aimed at pleasing the city dwellers and screwing the country folk. These city people should move back to the city and let the country folks do what they know best, feed the country. One day all these self-appointed puritans for mankind may wonder where their grocer really receives the food they buy.
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What a complete scam. Maybe the commissioners should start denying building permits for new homes & developments on high quality farmland as well! See if that lack of tax revenue gets them re-elected. Way to cater to your whining constituents you sell outs, I hope you starve someday because of your immoral actions.
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Please, these farms create no more health issue then do any other farm. Everyone is complaining aobut the high cost of food but yet we are discouraging farming. That seems very counter productive. I hope the Gemmill family appeals and appeals and appeals and that they finally get their farm. They deserve it.
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Commissioners should deny building permits to developers on high-quality soil. this business of veggies being flown in from 4000 miles away my very well come to a halt soon, as it should. Local produce, grain, and animal production is likely to be more important than since pre-WW II. Especially as gas prices continue to rise.
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The poor farmers made a killing parceling out land for development ,then want to pollute air and water to those they became rich off of .Why put a stinking hog farm in the middle of a community when PA. has millions of acres that would not impact any one . I once thought a lagoon was something a beautiful woman swam in!
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I hope this family keeps fighting. Sometimes I think its a big money thing with the townships. You have to pay so much for permits that they always seem to deny or request you to do more. I wish this family luck in thier process. Many hog farmers are getting out of the buisness because of the price of feed and then their our us farmers who keep struggling to servive in what we believe in. I wish people would relize how much they really need us farmers and just learn to live with us. We are the ones who put food on their table. Again they seem to forget we work every day all year to do our jobs and feed our animals which in turn feeds them.
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Farms we need. Factory farms are a different story. And given the new world of fuel costs, factory farms may be on the way out. Agribusinesses need to downsize to co-ops again, and family farms mat well be the wave of the future, if there are any families still willing to farm, and Lord knows, it hasn't been made easy for them to do so. One thing is certain: Peach Bottom and Fawn better get their acts together solidly before the big rush caused by the expansion of Aberdeen hits the fan. Otherwise, there won't be anything left down that way that is green except for a little algae on a stray puddle!
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like it rural
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Extreme activists groups will force their causes on the farmers until its too late. Did these people eat today? Did they raise their own food? I hope those that put up the fight against farmers in our FARM COMMUNITY someday know hunger. I like the country and I know that sometimes I will smell it. It sure beats smelling smog and hearing traffic. How in the world they can think more houses on ousted farmland is going to help our schools or environment is crazy. I hope the farmer keeps fighting this injustice.
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I did not vote either way for the hog farm - I was torn about it. HOWEVER, my concern is our water supply. That was the biggest concern for a lot of residence in the area. The rest of the crap that the Concerned Citizens were arguing about was nothing but that, CRAP. We live with the smell all summer - it's the way it is. You live in the country, you deal with it. BUT, we shouldn't have to deal with contaminated water supplies and that was a very real possibility if the farm got the go ahead. When you're proposing to bring in over 4000 pigs to raise - that's A LOT OF SH*T to spread on your fields and there is a creek that runs very close or right thru his fields that is a water supply for many, I'm sure - no thank you. Why can't he farm Corn or Wheat? I would think that with they way that corn is being turned into bio-fuel - it would be more profitable for him. Eventually he'll get his farm. The state passed a law a few years ago "The Right to Farm Act" - he'll get his farm.
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The suggestion that all farmers are saints and all farming practices are good ones is the height of absurdity. Farmers, like everyone else, can be good neighbors or lousy ones, good people or lousy ones. It makes sense to think carefully before allowing a 4400 pig farm in the middle of a residential area.
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Local farmers supplying local markets my be the wave of the future as our society begins to realize that our current way of dealing with food isn't going to be sustainable with higher fuel costs. it may mean that the selection we are used to in supermarkets will thi n out, but that isn't the worst thing in the world. We need farmland and farmers. We do not need agribusinesses run by "suits" in offices counting beans, while the field work is done with next to slave labor from Lord knows where. Also, it might be a good time to sell your damned SUV, tear down the three-car garage, and develop a raised-bed garden for your own use. Try it. You'll never appreciate more how much good work is neccessary to supply food!
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Just happened to see your blogs. Actually we bought our 100 year old home from the Gemmill's and we are not city folk. My husband and I both grew up near farms and we now live next to their 400 hogs now. After learning how modern ag farming has changed our land and food I am disturbed. I think Americans would should educate themselves to how the food makes it to our tables. I certainly don't want meat laced with steriods, arsenic, genetically engineered feed, laxatives and whatever else corporations are doing to our food on my families dinner table. We have been pork free for over a year and enjoy greater health. I suggest reading the Pew Report that Johns Hopkins just put out about confined animal operations. The nitrates in our well went from 11.9 to 25 in 2 years we believe due to overspraying of hog waste 100 feet from our well. We were drinking this water for 2 years and developed alot of health issues. Farming now adays is not what we are led to believe. Putting virus and bacteria and antibiotic resistent markers and pesticides in corn to make it resistent to round up. All the food we eat that has corn soy and cottonseed is genetically altered. You wonder why we are having so many health problems. There is alot more to this story then you realize. Farmers need to know what they are actually doing to the food and our environment. God Bless Go organic and support sustainable farmning.
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deannada43 wrote: Just happened to see your blogs. Actually we bought our 100 year old home from the Gemmill's and we are not city folk. My husband and I both grew up near farms and we now live next to their 400 hogs now. After learning how modern ag farming has changed our land and food I am disturbed. I think Americans would should educate themselves to how the food makes it to our tables. I certainly don't want meat laced with steriods, arsenic, genetically engineered feed, laxatives and whatever else corporations are doing to our food on my families dinner table. We have been pork free for over a year and enjoy greater health. I suggest reading the Pew Report that Johns Hopkins just put out about confined animal operations. The nitrates in our well went from 11.9 to 25 in 2 years we believe due to overspraying of hog waste 100 feet from our well. We were drinking this water for 2 years and developed alot of health issues. Farming now adays is not what we are led to believe. Putting virus and bacteria and antibiotic resistent markers and pesticides in corn to make it resistent to round up. All the food we eat that has corn soy and cottonseed is genetically altered. You wonder why we are having so many health problems. There is alot more to this story then you realize. Farmers need to know what they are actually doing to the food and our environment. God Bless Go organic and support sustainable farmning. Thanks for a very informative post from someone who is living with the issue firsthand. There will be those who will try to demean your story or tell you you don't know what you are talking about. They will be dead wrong!
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maria
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The zoning board denied the application because it did not meet the requirements of the ordinance for special exception...but there is so much more testimony from experts like Amy Sapkota,formerly Amy Chapin from Hopkins Bloomberg Center for a Livable Future and University of Md. She is a "rock star" in her field. Her testimony stated that nobody even considered this site location. There are over 1000 homes and 3000 people living within one mile of the proposed facility in the direction of the prevailing winds.She talked about MRSA ,the antibiotic resistant superbug. She talked about the buses for our school children parked less than a quarter of a mile from the proposed facility. She does not think it is safe. As a matter of fact 52% of Americans according to the latest CNN poll do not have trust that out food system is safe. Lou Bobbs stated that the USDA should be taken apart from top to bottom. Look at the salmonella tomatoes...Guess how many farms have been inspected by the USDA so far...zero!!!! Political money seems to be more important than our safety and welfare. Do not think your government is protecting you. Educate yourself and protect your children
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maria wrote: The zoning board denied the application because it did not meet the requirements of the ordinance for special exception...but there is so much more testimony from experts like Amy Sapkota,formerly Amy Chapin from Hopkins Bloomberg Center for a Livable Future and University of Md. She is a "rock star" in her field. Her testimony stated that nobody even considered this site location. There are over 1000 homes and 3000 people living within one mile of the proposed facility in the direction of the prevailing winds.She talked about MRSA ,the antibiotic resistant superbug. She talked about the buses for our school children parked less than a quarter of a mile from the proposed facility. She does not think it is safe. As a matter of fact 52% of Americans according to the latest CNN poll do not have trust that out food system is safe. Lou Bobbs stated that the USDA should be taken apart from top to bottom. Look at the salmonella tomatoes...Guess how many farms have been inspected by the USDA so far...zero!!!! Political money seems to be more important than our safety and welfare. Do not think your government is protecting you. Educate yourself and protect your children An informative post. Your next to last sentence says it all! Americans need to wake up, and fast!
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