BART fare example: Millbrae to Embarcadero (15 miles) is $8.50 RT.<quoted text>
These numbers seem hard to find but with the massive subsidies, the cost of each rider on BART in the Bay Area is something near 20 dollars last time I heard a figure.
If you think its such a great deal, THEN DO IT WITHOUT ANY GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES! NONE. Survive no your own.
But you know you can't do it. Why? Because people really DON'T LIKE RAIL if it's real cost is reflected in the fare price.
BART is about 50% subsidized by direct taxes, i.e. sales and property taxes.
For FY 2008, it took in $309 million in fares, and incurred $653 million in operating expenses. It needed $268 million in direct taxes to make ends meet.
See attached financial statements for FY 2008:
Look at page 11.
Hawaii won't be any better. In fact. it may well be worse. BART serviecs an area of 6 miilion people. Oahu?