House urged to halt political-gifts bill - News

Citizen watchdog groups warned that a tidal wave of corporate money would unfairly influence elections unless the state House of Representatives stops a measure up for a vote today. Full Story
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wacos202

Honolulu, HI

#1 Mar 10, 2009
What's wrong with Oshiro> Get rid of this crook.
An Observer

Keaau, HI

#2 Mar 10, 2009
Here's what may be happening.

Abercrombie gets a lot of money from executives and the PACs of arms producers and military contractors. Right now, the funds they gave him for his congressional warchest can not be used for his Governor's race. So he's starting from scratch and the Democrats need to create the money tsunami for him.

That's why they also want to lift the ban on mainland contributions. The ban was put in place by the Democrats to affect Lingle's fundraising. Now that Neil needs the cash, the ban will be lifted.

Star Bulletin, do some in-depth research and reporting.
An Observer

Keaau, HI

#3 Mar 10, 2009
Here's what may be happening.
Abercrombie gets a lot of money from executives and the PACs of arms producers and military contractors. Right now, the funds they gave him for his congressional warchest can not be used for his Governor's race. So he's starting from scratch and the Democrats need to create the money tsunami for him.
That's why they also want to lift the ban on mainland contributions. The ban was put in place by the Democrats to affect Lingle's fundraising. Now that Neil needs the cash, the ban will be lifted.
Star Bulletin, do some in-depth research and reporting.
manini

Honolulu, HI

#4 Mar 10, 2009
So why doesn't Oshiro introduce a bill putting a limit at $1000, the same that the campaign commission is currently ignoring. Make it official and enforceable.
I would be interested in how Oshiro arrived at $50,000 being reasonable. What convoluted thinking process brought him to that conclusion. Simply stating it is reasonable doesn't make it so.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#5 Mar 10, 2009
Ok then, I'll take back my $50,000 contribution.
Disgusted

Kaneohe, HI

#6 Mar 10, 2009
Let's not forget to add unions, particularly public employee unions, and industries. If contributions are not limited to a low amount like $1,000 by any group, the political office holders will be bought and paid for, as they already are. They will spend all their time shmoozing up to PACs and group contributors, who they will then owe, rather than looking out for the welfare of their constituents.
Ron

Wailuku, HI

#7 Mar 10, 2009
Political gifts is just another way of saying bribe. Those members of the House or Senate that support this bill are announcing to the corporations that they are available to be bought and paid for by special interest groups. Our State is so corrupt!
HITaxpayer

Honolulu, HI

#8 Mar 10, 2009
wacos202 wrote:
What's wrong with Oshiro> Get rid of this crook.
I agree with you 100%. This is the guy who tried to kill the three strikes bill and when he couldn't he gutted it. You know, he said home invastion is not a violent crime and is not counted as a strike. he is also the guy who introduced same sex marriage. Now he is so arrogant he wants $50K from corporations. Aiea, don't vote for this guy.
kapaa

Lihue, HI

#9 Mar 10, 2009
they only think of themselves and yet we elect them to office year after year...we are the idiots

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#10 Mar 10, 2009
While the current limit is not enforceable, what makes anyone think that a $50K limit is enforrceable. By the way, where does the $3 hawaii electoral campaing fund money on our state income tax go?
local

Honolulu, HI

#11 Mar 10, 2009
The law should read, no business should contribute any cash to any campaign. This way you eliminate the puppets that are controled by these outside interests. Maybe the city and state can be more efficient and not be run by influenced politicians with wads of cash in their pockets.
Niele2

Honolulu, HI

#12 Mar 10, 2009
$50,000?? Is there no end to their greed?

The advocates have studied this and similar laws around the country. It's Oshiro who doesn't understand.
alice

Pahoa, HI

#13 Mar 10, 2009
You have to pay the monkeys off to get a bill through.
kahalawai

Honolulu, HI

#14 Mar 10, 2009
this is another classic example of why we need to return to an independant and sovereign nation status. Imua Nation of Hawai'i
Love Hawaii

Honolulu, HI

#16 Mar 10, 2009
I hope everyone understands that the $50k limit is to a company's own PAC, not per candidate. House members still can only get $2k, and Senate members $4k - that's unchanged.

Also, the 20% out-of-state limit is still there.
realitycheck

Honolulu, HI

#17 Mar 10, 2009
Don't buy the lie. More money means less competition/ less constituent participation. The foundation of our democracy compromised/co-opted by big money interests. Corporations, rather than pay taxes, choose to stuff the pockets of politicians
Curious Observer

Pleasanton, CA

#18 Mar 10, 2009
The names at the legislature may change, but the greed has been there for decades. These are the same people that hold fundraising events DURING the legislative session and pretend that it is ethical. Who attends these fundraisers-companies/unions that have bills in that legislator's committee. The only change put into place in the last few years was intended to block Lingle's ability to raise funds and now that will be removed to again favor the Dems. Since no one holds these individuals accountable and they continue to re-elected, they feel no shame in behaving in an unethical manner.
Island Boi

Waipahu, HI

#19 Mar 10, 2009
More political problems in the little third world of Hawaii Nei. Ideally corporations, unions, PACs or any other entity should not be allowed to contribute to any candidate. Limit individual donations to a one time gift of $500. What a concept, make a politician win on what they can bring to the table, not how much money they can collect. Will Hawaii Nei make the right choice? History says we will again make the wrong on, allowing unions and other groups to set our laws and election choices. But there is always a chance for a change. Ahhhh another day in the Nei.
Whatever

Honolulu, HI

#20 Mar 10, 2009
The Federal Government has banned corporate contributions since 1907! If this bill passes, my vote will no longer count.
JoeLocal

Honolulu, HI

#21 Mar 10, 2009
Money talks BUT you still need to vote for them right?

You don't like it VOTE them out!

If the officials get re-elected that means the MAJORITY of the citizens, not the VOCAL MINORITY, voted.

Quit your crying and vote them out. If the person you voted for loses, then live with it.

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