2 pedestrians killed in accidents - News

2 pedestrians killed in accidents - News

There are 25 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Feb 8, 2009, titled 2 pedestrians killed in accidents - News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Police are investigating two pedestrian deaths, including an early morning hit-and-run accident that killed an 83-year-old Aiea woman yesterday.

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Localguy

Aiea, HI

#1 Feb 8, 2009
These accidents remind us again that Honolulu is the most Pedestrian Unfriendly City in the nation. Why are the city and state agencies so lax in educating drivers that pedestrians have rights too?
small okole

Las Vegas, NV

#2 Feb 8, 2009
Sorry to read about these tragedies however, it's not just in Honolulu. Don't try walking in Las Vegas outside of the strip..... drivers do not see or care about speed limits whether driving on freeways or residential area. Everyone complained about the LA/Calif. drivers, but comparatively speaking, they were more considerate drivers- with exceptions of course like everywhere. As a driver, we all need to not be in such a hurry and think of only ME, but of others whether drivers or pedestrians.
maui

Kihei, HI

#3 Feb 8, 2009
the driver in honolulu there no care how thay drive ,,the driver here no more aloha
Blah

Kailua, HI

#4 Feb 8, 2009
I don't know the conditions of these accidents, but one of the problems is that Hawaii has not learned what every other state learned decades ago-- unregulated crosswalks kill people.

In my Oahu town there are a dozen crosswalks painted on roadways seemingly at random. There are no lights to regulate the traffic and often the visibility of the sidewalk by the crosswalk is blocked by parked cars or trees.

Pedestrians often just blindly walk into the crosswalk without checking whether the driver can actually see them. I try to be extra careful and watch these areas closely, but unregulated crosswalks are a bad idea.

There are fewer fatalities in cities where crosswalks are only available with stop lights or stop signs. Pedestrians tend to assume the painted line on the ground makes them invulnerable.
Mike

United States

#6 Feb 8, 2009
Yea! You take ONE STUPID STEP onto the road and the stupid red blinking don't walk light starts to blink. Who designed the duration of the light? Must be the UH Track And Field Team!
Shareholder

Kaneohe, HI

#7 Feb 8, 2009
Its dangerous to be a pedestrian.
Mike

United States

#8 Feb 8, 2009
Its dangerous to drive in front of a old lady pedestrain with a cane. She will give your car a cane-foo!
Bob_Mililani

San Diego, CA

#9 Feb 8, 2009
It's sad that another pedestrian was killed, but stupidity doesn't rest with drivers alone. Many pedestrians walk onto the roadways with their head up their butt giving no consideration to what a several thousand pound vehicle can do to their body. Those that suddenly step on to the roadway without looking, the turtle walkers, the yackers whose mouths are going faster than their feet, the ones who cross when the don't walk light is flashing, the eaters, the jay-walkers, the cell phone users, the ones connected to a mp3 player off in la la land, the nose pickers, etc.,etc., etc. Pretty much doing everything but getting from one side to the other as quickly as possible.
surfer dude honolulu

Lake Oswego, OR

#10 Feb 8, 2009
The poor guy who was hit by the Roberts Tour Bus, should come as no suprise. Those busses zoom through Waikiki. They exceed the speed limit, they tailgate and often run yellow/red lights. Who are these drivers? Are they the rejects from "THE BUS". I have called up the company and complained in the past, but they always want a bus id number. Impossible to get when they are going so fast and the plume from the diesel exhaust blinds you.
surfer dude honolulu

Lake Oswego, OR

#11 Feb 8, 2009
Bob_Mililani wrote:
It's sad that another pedestrian was killed, but stupidity doesn't rest with drivers alone. Many pedestrians walk onto the roadways with their head up their butt giving no consideration to what a several thousand pound vehicle can do to their body. Those that suddenly step on to the roadway without looking, the turtle walkers, the yackers whose mouths are going faster than their feet, the ones who cross when the don't walk light is flashing, the eaters, the jay-walkers, the cell phone users, the ones connected to a mp3 player off in la la land, the nose pickers, etc.,etc., etc. Pretty much doing everything but getting from one side to the other as quickly as possible.
I agree with you Bob. However the guy who was killed by the tour bus is being investigated by the police as a negligent homocide. There is more to this one than some pedestrian in la la land.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#12 Feb 8, 2009
Roberts hawaii is a very bad company. Really bad folks behind it.
Oahu Alumni

Honolulu, HI

#13 Feb 8, 2009
I know the driver totally screwed up and will have this on his conscious forever, but what is an 80 year old woman doing out on the road at 2am? There are way too many crosswalks in Hawaii, lets eliminate most of them and have only secure protected crosswalks!
alice

Honolulu, HI

#14 Feb 8, 2009
blaming the victim is wrong hon
Former Kaonohi Resident

United States

#15 Feb 8, 2009
Doesn't anyone know that some elderly folks commit suicide by vehicle? They walk out intentionally in front of oncoming traffic knowing that they will be hit and hopefully killed. They have life insurance policies that will benefit their kids or grandkids. What a shame for their families! The insurance always pays and the poor unfortunate driver is almost always blamed for their cruel move. HALA!
alice

Honolulu, HI

#17 Feb 8, 2009
that is rare hon
sideline

AOL

#18 Feb 8, 2009
PEDESTRIANS BEWARE----i do not drink or take drugs, i give ALL pedestrians the right of way WHEN I SEE THEM.i have 20/20 vision and am a highly experianced driver. like it or not, a pedestrian is a needle in a haystack, proceede with caution when crossing the street,it is built wide to accomodate vehicles,it's a good thing you don't have wings, you could end up i a jet engine. don't be DEAD right.
SAY FOR GOVENOR

Honolulu, HI

#19 Feb 8, 2009
I part of the law makers should change the law......... If you "HIT and RUN" AUTOMATIC 30 YEAR PRISON TERM.. NO AND IF OR BUT...That will get the people not to run and take their chances........ The law should be changed for pedestrian also...... I see so many think they own the road and cross the street without even looking........ Thinking that they have the right of way...... Some of them deserve to get banged... REMEMBER WHAT I "SAY"
mele

Bronx, NY

#20 Feb 8, 2009
SAY FOR GOVENOR wrote:
I part of the law makers should change the law......... If you "HIT and RUN" AUTOMATIC 30 YEAR PRISON TERM.. NO AND IF OR BUT...That will get the people not to run and take their chances........ The law should be changed for pedestrian also...... I see so many think they own the road and cross the street without even looking........ Thinking that they have the right of way...... Some of them deserve to get banged... REMEMBER WHAT I "SAY"
agree with you SayGov. only thing is, sometimes if it is dark, a driver is not always aware he even hit someone. i've run over things on dark stretches, with no lites, and have no idea if it was a pothole, branch from a tree, something else on the road?

as far as pedestrians, and the idea that Honolulu is more dangerous than any other place... the only thing I think is dangerous is the attitude of the pedestrians, and the politicians who have tried, unsuccessfully, to "protect" the pedestrians.

i agree with the other posters who mention the weight of vehicles, and how roads are designed for cars, not people walking. because of the weather, i think more people walk in hawaii than other places, and
THAT is why there are more accidents. pedestrians by and large fell empowered by the laws, and having all the different cultures that we do, there is not a respect for drivers and the flow of vehicular traffic.

most of us would rather be "nice" and let someone go, and this in turn causes accidents. just my humble opinion.

btw, i was hit by a car, in a crosswalk, because i waited for the walking sign, which also gave the driver the green light.

jaywalkers unite! it's safer NOT to be in a crosswalk, especially if you have the sense to know how fast you can cross/run, and how fast the on-coming cars, if any, are coming.
Inquisitive

Honolulu, HI

#21 Feb 8, 2009
Roberts Hawaii isn't that the same company that had a headon collision killing a driver in the country??I remember the driver was supposedly on ICE. These transportation companies have a history of not testing their employees for substance abuse. Also they supposedly work these drivers for 12 hours or more a day. What can be more dangerous than having a over worked driver, or maybe a drug user driving a huge bus. Of course this case is pending a investigation, but to have 2 deaths from 1 company in as many years is unusual.
Roberts should go

Honolulu, HI

#22 Feb 8, 2009
I have also witnessed the terrible driving by many Roberts vehicles (including their school buses ) and have called the company to report it. The reaction is one of "Oh yeah, we'll take care of it" but I continue to see the bad driving. So much for being a responsible business that cares about people
in Hawaii. May this incident bring them down to their knees in regret.....

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