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Extending Medicare-like health coverage to Americans of all ages no longer is just something "nice to do" someday but something we must do now.
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willie

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Janet Thebaud - "Health reform a clear necessity"

Bull.

First just because France (or anywhere else has it) does not mean WE have to have it or can afford it.

If in fact they do reform it then I propose ANYONE showing up at a hospital for treatment either shows a valid insurance card or if a visitor from another country, a form stating their home country will cover their costs. If you can not provide either then it is cash on the barrelhead. There will be NO excuse for not having insurance if we do in fact decide to provide it at low cost (read another form of welfare).

The country is already trillions in debt and you want to tack on a few trillion more? None of the "experts" can come with any kind of number for cost.

Here is the deal, the US government already owns VA care. Have them fix THAT mess (they have complete control of it) then once they understand how complex the issue is come back with a proposal for national coverage. To heck with President Obama's "deadlines"...this is way to complex and important to fast track.
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Total agrrement regarding Gov Lingle.
Furloughs should start with her. Also
stop discriminating against Hawaiians regarding ceded lands.
realist

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Hey, there just are not enough $150,000 plus people to make any kind of a difference even if you tax them at 20% instead of the new 11% put in by the Legislature. Oh, try wait, in a couple of years you will find fewer $150,000 plus people cause people have feet and minds and can leave. Except, of course, all the high paid public workers at UH who make far more than $150,000 with loads of benies. Get real. Public employee's make up 70% of the cost of State Govt. so they should make up 70% of the cuts.
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Janet, What would the cost be and when will everyone take responsibility for their own lives instead of depending on others for support? Nothing is free!
Flexo

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I guess it's perspective. Steve Baker says be careful not to over tax the wealthy, James Cartwright says they aren't being taxed enough.
Steve Baker, if the wealthy flee the state, where will they go. They're running out of options.
James Cartwright. Why not just forcefully retire those that are eligible. Most of them are hanging around just to improve their high 3 and are no longer productive in any case. And please, we've had enough of the new "trickle down" theory with our state employees at the top of the trickle down pyramid.

“Nothing Good Can Come of This!”

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I've said it before, I'll say it again, even though it should be obvious by now. Take away the workers, the work doesn't get done. Who will clean your public buildings, fix the bridges, inspect the dams, manage the harbors, etc. Maybe you should just pick what you can live without and get rid of the people who do those jobs. Geeze, the gov says she will take the furlough days with the rest of the state employees, but the legislature doesn't offer that. Would we miss it if they weren't there 14% of the time? I doubt it, but you WILL miss the $18k janitor who doesn't show up to clean the state court toilet. Think folks, you can talk about how the union bosses run everything, but it isn't the bosses who will be hurt in all of this, it will be you! Who will run the food banks or the food stamp business? Time to come up with a REAL solution, or suffer the consequences...
Flexo

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Janet Thebaud. We could have already arrived at a national health care plan if it weren't for Congress protecting special interests during the Clinton presidency. At that time we had a serious, healthy national debate but Congress killed it at the behest of those benefiting from the current over priced system.
Alan Dumbings

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Auhau wrote:
Total agrrement regarding Gov Lingle.
Furloughs should start with her. Also
stop discriminating against Hawaiians regarding ceded lands.
Is this some kind of "haiku" poem?
low standards

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Mr. Cartwright, state taxes HAVE been raised this sesssion on higher earners. And you are wrong that this does not affect business owners. In an LLC or sole proprietorship, profits are taxed as income to the owner, regardless of whether the business owner wants to use the money for business purposes or not. A business is forced to go to become a corporation to avoid that and allow money to remain for business use, incurring extra costs and, no doubt, causing the owner to become "upper management" in your mind and the minds of others, thereby deserving extra taxation again.
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State workers need to recognize that non-gov't workers have been facing cuts in their take home pay over the past 5 years in the form of higher medical insurance premium costs share and little if any raises, and losing jobs. Join the club!
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bad govt is the price we pay for officials who place personal ambition far above the needs of the people.
Hawaii Resident

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kira_girl wrote:
Janet, What would the cost be and when will everyone take responsibility for their own lives instead of depending on others for support? Nothing is free!
I agree 100%. The priority should be taking responsibility first; the needs of family, second; then all others last.
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willie wrote:
Janet Thebaud - "Health reform a clear necessity"
Bull.
First just because France (or anywhere else has it) does not mean WE have to have it or can afford it.
If in fact they do reform it then I propose ANYONE showing up at a hospital for treatment either shows a valid insurance card or if a visitor from another country, a form stating their home country will cover their costs. If you can not provide either then it is cash on the barrelhead. There will be NO excuse for not having insurance if we do in fact decide to provide it at low cost (read another form of welfare).
The country is already trillions in debt and you want to tack on a few trillion more? None of the "experts" can come with any kind of number for cost.
Here is the deal, the US government already owns VA care. Have them fix THAT mess (they have complete control of it) then once they understand how complex the issue is come back with a proposal for national coverage. To heck with President Obama's "deadlines"...this is way to complex and important to fast track.
Willie, do you use the VA?

I've been on it for awhile. While not perfect, it has kept me alive and healthy. It used to be really bad. It is a lot better now. So....what do you know about it?
glenn paul

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Hawaii Resident wrote:
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I agree 100%. The priority should be taking responsibility first; the needs of family, second; then all others last.
"Hawaii Resident" Couldn't agree with you more. A big Aloha from Northeast PA.

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Keoni K wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, even though it should be obvious by now. Take away the workers, the work doesn't get done. Who will clean your public buildings, fix the bridges, inspect the dams, manage the harbors, etc. Maybe you should just pick what you can live without and get rid of the people who do those jobs. Geeze, the gov says she will take the furlough days with the rest of the state employees, but the legislature doesn't offer that. Would we miss it if they weren't there 14% of the time? I doubt it, but you WILL miss the $18k janitor who doesn't show up to clean the state court toilet. Think folks, you can talk about how the union bosses run everything, but it isn't the bosses who will be hurt in all of this, it will be you! Who will run the food banks or the food stamp business? Time to come up with a REAL solution, or suffer the consequences...
2 years ago, an earthquake closed the Hana Highway near Kaupo. Still isn't open. Using your logic, since nothing has been done by the state workers there, can we recover their salaries?
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Keoni K wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, even though it should be obvious by now. Take away the workers, the work doesn't get done. Who will clean your public buildings, fix the bridges, inspect the dams, manage the harbors, etc. Maybe you should just pick what you can live without and get rid of the people who do those jobs. Geeze, the gov says she will take the furlough days with the rest of the state employees, but the legislature doesn't offer that. Would we miss it if they weren't there 14% of the time? I doubt it, but you WILL miss the $18k janitor who doesn't show up to clean the state court toilet. Think folks, you can talk about how the union bosses run everything, but it isn't the bosses who will be hurt in all of this, it will be you! Who will run the food banks or the food stamp business? Time to come up with a REAL solution, or suffer the consequences...
There are so many state workers who do next to nothing when they ARE on the job that I doubt anyone would miss it if they didn't physically show up.
willie

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Keoni K wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, even though it should be obvious by now. Take away the workers, the work doesn't get done. Who will clean your public buildings, fix the bridges, inspect the dams, manage the harbors, etc. Maybe you should just pick what you can live without and get rid of the people who do those jobs. Geeze, the gov says she will take the furlough days with the rest of the state employees, but the legislature doesn't offer that. Would we miss it if they weren't there 14% of the time? I doubt it, but you WILL miss the $18k janitor who doesn't show up to clean the state court toilet. Think folks, you can talk about how the union bosses run everything, but it isn't the bosses who will be hurt in all of this, it will be you! Who will run the food banks or the food stamp business? Time to come up with a REAL solution, or suffer the consequences...
There is an old saying that goes:

"Putting 6 chickens on an egg does not make it hatch any faster."

What if no one notices the reduction in people? Does that indicate we have too many and can just go ahead and lay off 10% for good?

Does the toilet need to be cleaned every day and can't go 3 lousy days a month without a cleaning? Who cleans it when the regular person is on one of their MANY vacation days?

Smoke and mirrors, the furloghs are coming, you can not raise taxes so just deal withit and perhaps work just a little harder because there will be less people doing the job.
willie

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molo wrote:
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Willie, do you use the VA?
I've been on it for awhile. While not perfect, it has kept me alive and healthy. It used to be really bad. It is a lot better now. So....what do you know about it?
I am retired military so no I don't use the va. I do go there now and then and have seen the shape they are in. Yes they are better but really, if that is how Uncle Sam runs healthcare folks best be careful asking him to run the whole shooting match. Your care will be subject to annual budget talks and we all know what happens to budgets, they are not always enough to do the job.

“s'up”

Since: Sep 07

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Keoni K wrote:
I've said it before, I'll say it again, even though it should be obvious by now. Take away the workers, the work doesn't get done. Who will clean your public buildings, fix the bridges, inspect the dams, manage the harbors, etc. Maybe you should just pick what you can live without and get rid of the people who do those jobs.
Maybe you should get a clue that the highest paid are the least productive....upper and middle managers. They don't clean or inspect anything. thye push the paper down to the rank and file staff who handle the majority of duties you list.
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What ever happened to taking pride in taking care of your self and your family? Working hard to make sure your family is taken care of first before spendind money on somthing you don't need? How many times do we see on tv the guy who got hurt standing in front of his tricked out truck or sitting in front of his big screen tv telling everyone he doesn't know what to do because he could not affored insurance for the family. People just need to get thier priorities straight. I know this sounds boring to some but this is reality. I know there are alot of people out there who would love to have someone else pay all thier bills for them so they can spend thier money on all the fun things in life.

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