Gambling appears dead for session - News

As opponents of legalized gambling launch a lobbying campaign this week, legislators who support the idea say it is all but dead this year. Full Story
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alice

Maunaloa, HI

#85 Feb 11, 2009
I cannot afford to gamble. Most people can't.
Vote out the bums

Honolulu, HI

#86 Feb 11, 2009
Mercado, Hemmings and Souki are getting too senile in the legislature.

Time to vote them out.

No fresh ideas - just wishing and hoping and copying ideas.

Hawaiians don't just go to Las Vegas to gamble.

They go the Las Vegas for at the food, friends and to get out of the rock in the ocean.

What a shame to waste citizens'time and efforts and money to make sure that these clowns don't ruin Hawaii with gambling

Auwe.
alice

Maunaloa, HI

#87 Feb 11, 2009
I have neevr been to vegas but I guess some people find it worth losing ltos of money over.
Vegas Fan

Honolulu, HI

#88 Feb 11, 2009
Why not give the cruise ships a license to offer shipboard gaming with the condition that the local residents be hired by the cruise ships and a modest 30% gaming tax is extracted from the gross gaming revenues? I would even bet Rep Souki would be estatic if Maui became the exclusive port for shipboard gaming in Hawaii.
SetSail

Hilo, HI

#89 Feb 11, 2009
Oi! Another stupid move by Hawaii's stupid leaders. If they are afraid of casinos, fine. Lottery will not hurt. The most it will do is add to the trash on the streets. The state would make money and so would the little Mom-and-Pop stores that make a little bit off each ticket.

We had "Stop Rail Now". We need "Start Gaming Now". Also, how about "Throw All These Bums Out of The Capitol"? Where do I sign up for that one?

To everyone who is against lottery and gaming (and rail and Superferry for that matter): what are you all going to do we if listen to you and don't get lottery/gaming, don't get rail and don't (didn't) get Superferry? I hate hearing how whatever the great idea of the day is going to "destroy Hawaii". Hawaii was destroyed once the Europeans showed up! Hawaii isn't some young fresh virgin anymore. Hawaii has crime, Hawaii has violence, Hawaii has gangs, Hawaii has shootings, Hawaii has LOTS of drugs. Hawaii has gambling, Hawaii has massage parlors, Hawaii has prostitutes. And don't tell me "brah, not like the mainland". Crime is crime. Yeah, people don't shoot each other out here, but you can bust someone's head with a lead pipe or punch them in the nose to the point they die, so what's the difference?

Without gaming or lotto or even legalized marijuana, how will the state make money? Even more taxes? We know they aren't going to shrink the size of the government thanks to the far-too-powerful government union, so what are they going to do? They won't do gambling, they won't diversify the economy, they won't make the schools better (which would lead to smarter kids who might just open businesses here); what is everyone going to when there are no more businesses to work at? Farming? The agricultural age is over with. We are in the information age.

Stop fighting the windmills. Accept the current of change and profit from it.

Ah, who the hell cares...
alice

Maunaloa, HI

#90 Feb 11, 2009
true..start with a lottery or cruise gambling nad see how it goes. Truth is, even when the economy was good hawaii was a decreasingly popular market. Just not enough new to do or see.
Popeye

Hilo, HI

#91 Feb 11, 2009
SetSail wrote:
Oi! Another stupid move by Hawaii's stupid leaders. If they are afraid of casinos, fine. Lottery will not hurt. The most it will do is add to the trash on the streets. The state would make money and so would the little Mom-and-Pop stores that make a little bit off each ticket.
We had "Stop Rail Now". We need "Start Gaming Now". Also, how about "Throw All These Bums Out of The Capitol"? Where do I sign up for that one?
To everyone who is against lottery and gaming (and rail and Superferry for that matter): what are you all going to do we if listen to you and don't get lottery/gaming, don't get rail and don't (didn't) get Superferry? I hate hearing how whatever the great idea of the day is going to "destroy Hawaii". Hawaii was destroyed once the Europeans showed up! Hawaii isn't some young fresh virgin anymore. Hawaii has crime, Hawaii has violence, Hawaii has gangs, Hawaii has shootings, Hawaii has LOTS of drugs. Hawaii has gambling, Hawaii has massage parlors, Hawaii has prostitutes. And don't tell me "brah, not like the mainland". Crime is crime. Yeah, people don't shoot each other out here, but you can bust someone's head with a lead pipe or punch them in the nose to the point they die, so what's the difference?
Without gaming or lotto or even legalized marijuana, how will the state make money? Even more taxes? We know they aren't going to shrink the size of the government thanks to the far-too-powerful government union, so what are they going to do? They won't do gambling, they won't diversify the economy, they won't make the schools better (which would lead to smarter kids who might just open businesses here); what is everyone going to when there are no more businesses to work at? Farming? The agricultural age is over with. We are in the information age.
Stop fighting the windmills. Accept the current of change and profit from it.
Ah, who the hell cares...
Dude, don't throw in the towel. You make good points, though disagree on lottery-the soon to be poor and the poor would be hit hardest as desparation sets in to hit the big one. Just from the numbers alone, I don't think the Hawaii population can support a lottery with a $1M jackpot. Need to move toward isolated locations where casino-style venues for visitors would support the loca economy.
ex local

Portland, OR

#92 Feb 11, 2009
This is so lame. Yes, let the people vote on this. The government doesn't have a choice. The Hawaii economy is crashing and this is just he beginning. Choose the best of the evils. Of course nothing will happen because Hawaii is so "insider" based that it's a joke. The island is run like other asian countries where corruption and payoffs are a way of life. It's not a real democracy. People in Hawaii are trapped like in the movie the Matrix. They don't know that they are being screwed.
King Dwain

Austin, TX

#93 Feb 11, 2009
vegas has got our politicians in the back door.
Kiemrinlowernoll kui

Austin, TX

#94 Feb 11, 2009
ex local wrote:
This is so lame. Yes, let the people vote on this. The government doesn't have a choice. The Hawaii economy is crashing and this is just he beginning. Choose the best of the evils. Of course nothing will happen because Hawaii is so "insider" based that it's a joke. The island is run like other asian countries where corruption and payoffs are a way of life. It's not a real democracy. People in Hawaii are trapped like in the movie the Matrix. They don't know that they are being screwed.
we need more howle to come and pretent like they care about the islands.
Independent

Honolulu, HI

#95 Feb 11, 2009
I wanna wager wrote:
<quoted text>
Before legalizing gambling, more than likely the other 48 States had the same concerns over the social ills associated with gambling. With all the alleged bad things that happens with gambling, how many of the 48 repealed their laws legalizing gambling? None. It must pay for more than just the problems that arise from gambling.
Nevada has no personal or corporate state income tax. A benefit from the gaming industry. Yes they are having a hard time during this recession, but do you think they would be better off without gambling? No.
The crux of the problem is that the majority of Hawaii residents do not like change or trying something new. So most politicians do not want to stick their necks out and are not risk takers to try something out.
Harm Ha

AOL

#96 Feb 11, 2009
For the coming year, the legislators are going to be scratching their heads asking "How are we going to increase our tax base and generate more revenue for the state." When all they have to do is to legalize gambling. Eventually, it will come down to that, so why wait???????? Let's get the ball rolling and build up the coffers with REAL money!!!!!!!!
Todd

Brooklyn, NY

#97 Feb 11, 2009
Everyone should settle down. Adults are adults at the 18th year of age. As I am 33 years old with a business and have a ton of fun in vegas I think all people who are opposed do not understand that everyone has a brain and has choices. If you look at the homeless situations...you would see that these people has made their choices in their lives. Also if everyone was not so ignorant then crime would not be much of a problem. Hawaii is one of the best places in the world but like everywhere you have your good and bads. Do you think the people that are going through the hardships are honestly reading the paper? You all need to wake up and see reality!
Tita Nanakuli

Honolulu, HI

#98 Feb 12, 2009
HAWAII is dead. I'm takeing my money to vegas. Thats why we have noting here,but to paying big tax.
So i still go to VEGAS and the rule is what happen there stays in VEGAS. NOT HAWAII.Thats why vegas have A hotel only for, HAWAII PEOPLE.But hawaii hotle have no hawaii people.hahahahahahha hawaii you are the SAD.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu, HI

#99 Feb 12, 2009
Kaimukirich wrote:
I would support legalized gambling in Hawaii under the following conditions:
1) No local resident can gamble at a Hawaii casino. Only visitors will be allowed to gamble (current out-of-state license or passport shown to enter gambling area).
2) A high percentage (say 70-80%) of the casino staff must be local (paid Hawaii taxes for at least 2 previous years before employment).
3) Hawaii residents can enjoy the casino's amenities, i.e.- restaurants, hotel, meeting rooms, etc.- But they cannot gamble.
4) Any casino found with a current Hawaii resident gambling on its establishment, will have its gambling license immediately revoked for a period up to a year.(The casino would then basically become a hotel during its license suspension.)
Under this system, you could have your cake and eat it too. You would employ local residents (dealers, cooks, waiters, hostesses, entertainers, etc.), but with the restriction, would NOT have the social gambling problem. Visitors will be happy with another venue of entertainment and government would have more revenue in its coffers.
I believe Monte Carlo uses this system.
Lets go to Monte Carlo
Dummy in Vegas

Honolulu, HI

#100 Feb 12, 2009
Been to Macau. The tour lady told us about how the increase in suicide amongst the local residents who lost ALL of their money and even OWED a whole bunch more in DEBT. So what do they do? Suicide. Jump out the window, etc.

So, all you idiots like make gamble, then MOVE to Vegas, lolos.

No bring that kine stuff around here.

Only trailer trash like make gambling legal in our beautiful HAWAIIAN islands.

Follow the example of our kupuna that went Christian all the way OR MOVE to Vegas: no let the screen door hit you in the but when you go.

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