Residency rule might apply to licenses - News

Hawaii might prohibit illegal immigrants from getting driver's licenses as the state tries to comply with the stricter requirements of the Real ID federal security law. Full Story
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Lani

Los Angeles, CA

#1 Feb 10, 2009
Does this affect people who can produce fake Hawaii birth certificates?
Big J-Hawaii Kai

United States

#2 Feb 10, 2009
We need the same type of immigration law as Australia. The only way you can immigrate to Australia is to be in a needed profession, and have a financially secured sponsor. It seems to have served Australia well. But of course that goes against our creed, "Give us your sick, lame and lazy, and those longing to be free," and we'll provide you with an EBT card, welfare assistance, housing, health and dental care, and just maybe a new SUV or Mercedes.
Hiloan

Carson, CA

#3 Feb 10, 2009
Big J-Hawaii Kai wrote:
We need the same type of immigration law as Australia. The only way you can immigrate to Australia is to be in a needed profession, and have a financially secured sponsor. It seems to have served Australia well. But of course that goes against our creed, "Give us your sick, lame and lazy, and those longing to be free," and we'll provide you with an EBT card, welfare assistance, housing, health and dental care, and just maybe a new SUV or Mercedes.
RIGHT ON!!!
Hiloan

Carson, CA

#4 Feb 10, 2009
It's about time! It would surprise me if hussein obama and his liberal conspirators change the rules.
Hiloan

Carson, CA

#5 Feb 10, 2009
I meant to say "wouldn't" instead of "would"

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#7 Feb 10, 2009
But really, why would Hawaii make it more difficult to get a drivers license than it is to run for office. You only have to establish residence in a district the day of filing to run for office.
localboi

Kaneohe, HI

#8 Feb 10, 2009
And this mitigate actual problems with immigration...how?
Kimo

Oklahoma City, OK

#9 Feb 10, 2009
what about the lost money, will they tax us again for the decrease in revenue. Then can set up another special fund for the counties.
GD Hilo

Keaau, HI

#10 Feb 10, 2009
Still shoveing the real id act down our throats hope you enjoy all your info on a gov data base. Add to that all medical information will have to be on a data base by 2014. Not hard to inspect all you do soon. Were like a bunch of stupid sheep BA BA
RECAP

Waterbury, CT

#11 Feb 10, 2009
Big J-Hawaii Kai wrote:
We need the same type of immigration law as Australia. The only way you can immigrate to Australia is to be in a needed profession, and have a financially secured sponsor..
Excuse me, Sir, we already have this:

1. Needed profession? Lawn care professionals and Maids.

2. Financially secured sponsor? Democrats who fail to withhold Social Security taxes and live within 10 miles of an emergency room.

Good day, Sir.=)
RECAP

Waterbury, CT

#12 Feb 10, 2009
GD Hilo wrote:
Add to that all medical information will have to be on a data base by 2014.
All, GD? I'll bet you a trillion dollars Congress exempts itself from this law. Now, where's my bookie's phone number!=)
Come on

Chicago, IL

#13 Feb 10, 2009
If the government was SERIOUS about keeping immigrants out make them take a test in ENGLISH!! If they can't pass it, then can't come in!!
Buckeye

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Feb 10, 2009
Come on wrote:
If the government was SERIOUS about keeping immigrants out make them take a test in ENGLISH!! If they can't pass it, then can't come in!!
I guess we will have to deport most of the NBA and the NFL....
Bush Hater

United States

#15 Feb 10, 2009
It's Bush's fault. Gone, but not forgotten...
StateTaxPayer

AOL

#16 Feb 10, 2009
Charge illegals $5000 for a license. They'll pay it, and the state will make a lot of money. This is how you balance the budget. LOL Not that your own taxes will come down though.
Chang

Honolulu, HI

#17 Feb 10, 2009
Actually you don't need a social security card to get a license. Foreign students can get drivers licenses and they don't have them. We need to stop giving away these VALID IDENTIFICATIONS to anyone who want's them. Either that or put something on there that designates them as being a foreigner. That and charge them an extra fee for the special card.
taxpayer

Hilo, HI

#18 Feb 10, 2009
localboi wrote:
And this mitigate actual problems with immigration...how?
Baby steps, localboi. First you take away legal driver licenses, once the formal ID becomes unavailable, any ID required services may also stop. Unless of course, the Great Obama reverses course on the whole ID requirement, then all the illegals will gladly stand in line for hours for free food, medical and housing; more than they do today anyway. Imagine, how much money the Fed and local governments will wipe out of their annual budgets.
Hawaii 96782

Pearl City, HI

#19 Feb 10, 2009
Das right. Japanese tourists can get drivers licenses here in Hawaii without a social security card. Sure, they're here legally, but why do they need a drivers license? Now they got a valid ID and they can even pretend to be a Hawaii resident and get kamaaina discounts. No, we need something else like showing you paid Hawaii taxes in order to get a drivers license or State ID Card.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#20 Feb 10, 2009
Lets look at why the Real ID law was passed. This law was passed based on recommendations of the 9/11 commission. Charging $5000 for drivers license nwill not deter the terrorist from buying a license. The main thing is to have the Drivers license and things be based on real citizenship. Having a NON-citizen drivers license with a different background is on of the immediate goals since your drivers license as it is will not meet the guidelines of the Federal mandate. Think about what it currently takes to get a US passport. If the driver's license, take as much trouble, then they are saying that the issuance of a driver's license is proving citizenship equal to a passport. If any part of the proof of citizenship is not met, then issuance of a drivers license with special markings would be appropriate.
realmerv

Mililani, HI

#22 Feb 10, 2009
Hawaii 96782 wrote:
Das right. Japanese tourists can get drivers licenses here in Hawaii without a social security card. Sure, they're here legally, but why do they need a drivers license? Now they got a valid ID and they can even pretend to be a Hawaii resident and get kamaaina discounts. No, we need something else like showing you paid Hawaii taxes in order to get a drivers license or State ID Card.
Many Japanese tourists that have driver's licenses pay real property taxes whereas Hawaii renters don't, they buy cars just like the rest of us, and they shop in our stores. What they don't do is commit crimes or go on welfare ... except one guy. I'd rather have a Japanese tourist with a driver's license than some of our locals and Micronesian immigrants. They buy car insurance unlike a many of our locals. They tend to spend more money than locals so they are repeat visitors and don't need encouragement to visit Hawaii three or four times each year.

So if you weigh the pluses and minuses, a Japanese tourist comes out ahead.

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