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4th grader suspended for bringing gun to school

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A Santa Fe elementary school student has been suspended for the rest of the week after bringing a toy gun to school.

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Willowthewisp

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And we used to play Dale Autry, Hopalong Cassidy, and Roy Rogers with impunity. Boyz or Girlz could run around with "gunz" and it was considered OK fun. Not anymore. The BrainPolice will stop that nonsense.

“Have one in your front yard?”

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Land of The Brave

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Times have changed, and people that do not know what their kids are taking to school are not very attentive parents. Because of no discipline allowed at home or at school, we have serious problems with these little brats taking real weapons to school. Remember Columbine?? School officials have to be carefull and parents need to be more attentive.

“What, me worry?”

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Sep 23, 2008
 
Normally I would say that this is another case of over-protection and political correctness blown out of proportion by well intended but misguided publik skool administrators. However, since it was a BB gun I'll give the skool the benefit of the doubt, but only only for this incident, they shouldn't expect this sort of consideration from me each and every time they wet their undies.
brandon

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LMAO!!!!! stupid parents lol they need to check the backpack..pockets before kids go school..DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH H and all this wont happen!!!!
Dogwatch

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Maybe momma needs to go to counseling too, to address her judgment. And where's dad? Oh, I forgot. It's Agua Fria Elementary School; 65% single parents.
Carlin

Albuquerque, NM

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Poor Kid ... I too remember playing 'cops-n-robbers' and 'cowboys-n-Indians' when I was his age. I'm sure he didn't mean anything by it - I used to sneak stuff to school to to share with my friends too. The Uranium rod - that was a bit excessive, but I got away with it. I guess to stay out of trouble these days kids should focus on sticking to games and fun that don't use objects to perform. I personally like the staring game. On another note, it's Od how pee-wee football in America will for sure never be regulated, even though more kids are beaten up and scarred playing football than any kid playing has been playing Roy Rogers.

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brandon wrote:
LMAO!!!!! stupid parents lol they need to check the backpack..pockets before kids go school..DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHH H and all this wont happen!!!!
Isn't it past your bedtime sonny?
Willothewisp

Albuquerque, NM

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Sep 23, 2008
 
Whisky River Crabb wrote:
Times have changed, and people that do not know what their kids are taking to school are not very attentive parents. Because of no discipline allowed at home or at school, we have serious problems with these little brats taking real weapons to school. Remember Columbine?? School officials have to be carefull and parents need to be more attentive.
I am sure without this "intervention" this child in Elementary School would have grown up to reenact Columbine. "Remember the Alamo" rings more true. Give us a break. We used to be able to walk around with 22 rifles or bring them to school for hunting afterwards. No Columbines back then.
Alyssa

Albuquerque, NM

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Sep 23, 2008
 
Im a student. And i think that its stupid of them to do that. Now i could see if it was a real gun. But, come on a fake one. Get the kid some counsouling. But, dont suspend them. He was only a 4th grader!
Alyssa

Albuquerque, NM

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Sep 23, 2008
 
Poor Kid!!!! Come on
Mad

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Good judgement on the school's part. No weapon of any kind is allowed at school. Some toy weapons look like the real thing. This child's actions are an indicatin of poor parenting skills and improper supervision in his home. Furthur investigation of the child's guardian(s) should be conducted to ensure this child is receiving the necessary care and supervision needed to become a productive citizen.
Mad

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Sep 23, 2008
 
*indication
LLresident

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Let's hear it for the administrators!!! Great Job!!! NOT!!!
You all need to reevaluate your policies and allow for flexibility on cases that are obvious. There are times for such decisions. A "One Size Does Not Fit All" in this scenario. Managment needs to resign over this...but wait, you will not do this because you need to look out for yourselves!! Pass the buck to the lowest denominator...suspend the 4th grader! Did this kid REALLY do any harm? He is just a kid! Management needs to re-evaluate, re-think, re-write, and maybe, RESIGN! A FOURTH GRADER!!! You rules make you a laughing stock of education.
LLresident

Los Lunas, NM

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Your rules make you a laughing stock of education.
Remo Williams

Albuquerque, NM

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A CLEAR PLASTIC pistol.
It shoots a small rubber BB about 10 yards.
In other words a TOY.
A toy that can't be confused for a real gun.
Point blank to the skin barely stings.

What would happen if a kid took a rubber knife to school?
Should he be suspended or expelled?

Let the punishment fit the crime.
Zero tollerance is a management and legal COPOUT.
Holy Krap

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Sep 23, 2008
 
These so-called "educators" are really getting carried away calling a toy pistol that shoots soft plastic pellets a "bb gun". That's what happens when you let hens peck you into submission.
Give the kid detention for a day, but one week's suspension is really NUTSO!
jim bob

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Columbine??!?!? Give me a break!! IT WAS A TOY! Now this kid and his parents will be put under a microscope. All common sense has left the school system! Uniforms and "policing" seem to have taken priority over teaching. If you don't believe it check out the warden running SFHS!!!
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kids can't be kids anymore. I think the scholls have gone way over the top. Kids these days can't even take their toy sword that goes with their Halloween costume, and they want to know why. Anything can be a weapon. A pencil can do more damage than that plastic gun, or a plastic sword. We need to loosen up and let these kids alone.
King Jeremy the Wicked

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Mad wrote:
Good judgement on the school's part. No weapon of any kind is allowed at school. Some toy weapons look like the real thing. This child's actions are an indicatin of poor parenting skills and improper supervision in his home. Furthur investigation of the child's guardian(s) should be conducted to ensure this child is receiving the necessary care and supervision needed to become a productive citizen.
First off, let me say this. I guess you better start cutting off hands and banning pencils and pens at schools too since they could be used as "weapons". Just about anything could be used as a "weapon". The rule at the school, if the word "weapon" is used, is far too broad.

So you never did something that your parents told you not to do? How do you know that this lady did not tell her kid not to take the BB gun to school? And how do you know she sis not check his bag before he left and he snuck it in after she checked. I believe big time in discipline in the home and I know that my kids are sneaking around doing things that I told them not to do. I have even led my kids by example, and guess what, they still do it! People need to take a hard look at themselves before they start condemning the parents of any kid. Hell I bet any parent on this board could be "investigated" for one thing or another.

Gangs must be awful desperate if they are recruiting 4th graders into their ranks.
Cheeky

Aztec, NM

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Sep 24, 2008
 
King Jeremy, you've said it!! The punishment should definantly fit the crime. The schools have the ability to use their discression in these cases, but they choose to take it to the max.
As a mother of a 5th grader who loves guns and anything to do with them I understand how this mother must feel. At one point we took all the guns away to see what would happen. He made them out of paper and duct tape!!! Origami guns!! Very creative! And before anyone asks the question, I'll answer, NO I do not have real guns in my house, I will not allow them around my children.
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