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“"South of Southern”

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#1 Mar 5, 2012
With all the destruction that has ripped apart many southeastern Ky towns. And destroyed so many lives in Appalachia Ky. One cant help but wonder where n the HE!! is F.E.M.A???

I find it strange and suspicious that our illustrious president is on T.V almost immediately after any American tragedy promising federal aid. Some times he's on T.V pledging support even before a tragic event is over.

So what about us?? What about our fellow mountain neighbors? Has anyone heard ANY FEDERAL government agency or official pledging support? Has anyone seen Obama on T.V promising to help southeastern Ky to rebuild? How long has it been now since the tragic tornadoes hit Southeastern Ky? 7 days and still NOTHING! Don't we count? Don't we pay taxes like the rest of the nation? How much has Appalachia contributed to the building of this nation? More than most regions I'm! So where is OUR help?

Just goes to show that Southeastern Ky people and all other residents of Appalachia are looked down on by the rest of the nation (Especially Washington D.C) We have always been forced to co-exist with the rest of the nation and be sefl reliant. Its as if we dont matter. All they want is our COAL and our young men to go and fight and die for them when they have a war.

We have neighbors all around us that have NOTHING left. Not so much as a little shelter. And what have we heard from the federal government?....The usual SILENCE!!!

“"South of Southern”

Since: Jun 10

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#2 Mar 5, 2012
I'm sorry I meant 4 days not seven.

But anyway I have yet to hear of any federal government assistance for the folks of West Liberty or any other Southeastern Ky town for that matter.
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#3 Mar 5, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
I'm sorry I meant 4 days not seven.
But anyway I have yet to hear of any federal government assistance for the folks of West Liberty or any other Southeastern Ky town for that matter.
well my tv hasn't been interrupted by any of his speeches. I never listen, refuse to support him in any way, but I notice when he cuts in on my judge Judy time! He is probably trying to pretend nothing happened. Why would he help us we're coal country?!
wellusee

Columbus, OH

#4 Mar 5, 2012
rawtruth wrote:
I'm sorry I meant 4 days not seven.
But anyway I have yet to hear of any federal government assistance for the folks of West Liberty or any other Southeastern Ky town for that matter.
Raw believes the lie that the government is here to help us. If we had the money we have sent them we could help ourselves. You never get as much from the government as you give them unless you are part of the government poor.
The government poor only get enough to keep them destitute, miserable and hopeless....barely living, addicted to hand outs, drugs and dependent with no self esteem.
All that is left for them to accomplish is death and/or crime.
Govt is a joke

San Francisco, CA

#5 Mar 5, 2012
Looks like Washington has left E. KY in the dark yet again. You forgot one raw...good ole Hammering Hal Rogers. He's from that area and I have not seen hide nor hair of him. Not even a mention of this disaster on his website. Maybe I'm wrong but seems like all of the Federal Govt. doen't care.
Govt is a joke

San Francisco, CA

#6 Mar 5, 2012
*doesn't
guest

United States

#7 Mar 5, 2012
Yeah Raw, where is your hero Hal Rogers??? LOL. You're right though about appalachian people being neglected by gov't. The thing is though, it's always been that way. We're the outcasts of this nation, the black sheep of the American family. It might explain most peoples' friendly disposition around here though, we have each other and don't need any damn federal gov't. I wish we had local leaders that would round up volunteers to help, but they're too damn lazy. It's not Obama's fault completely either, the governor can declare a state of emergency and dispatch the Nat'l Guard.
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#8 Mar 5, 2012
GUEST!!!!! You got a new thread yet? Lol
guest

United States

#9 Mar 5, 2012
sorry I've been busy working, but I'm on spring break so it might be sometime this week. Any suggestions?

“"South of Southern”

Since: Jun 10

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#11 Mar 5, 2012
Volunteer wrote:
They are getting help. Actually Gov. Beshear toured the ravaged areas and declared states of emergency much faster than the Indiana Gov. did.
Kentucky Governor tours damage, authorizes National Guard to help affected areas
After visiting catastrophic damages from Friday's severe storms and tornadoes, Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear spoke with both President Barack Obama and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on Saturday.
"The scope and magnitude of devastation in some of our communities is unlike anything I have ever seen," said Gov. Beshear in a news release. "I've been in close contact with President Obama since Thursday to ensure we will have the resources our families will need to recover from these storms."
Gov. Beshear authorized the Kentucky National Guard to deploy to communities as needed to assist with lifesaving efforts, security, and traffic control. So far, more than 220 troops have mobilized to five counties in Kentucky: Johnson, Laurel, Magoffin, Menifee and Morgan Counties.
According to the Commonwealth Joint Information Center, The Kentucky Department of Public Health reports a total of 18 fatalities in the state: Five (5) in Laurel County, 4 in Morgan County, 3 in Kenton County, 2 in Johnson County, 2 in Menifee County and 2 in Lawrence County. Approximately 300 injuries have been reported.
Friends of Families who have been unable to located loved ones are encouraged to register the missing person's information on the Kentucky Emergency management website www.kyem.ky.gov or through the American Red Cross Safe and Well Program at www.americanredcross.org
According to a news release from the Commonwealth Joint Information Center, trained spotters and law enforcement throughout the state reported 13 tornadoes to the Kentucky Emergency Management.
Both Gov. Beshear and Lt. Gov. Jerry Abramson visited storm-stricken areas Saturday morning. Gov. Beshear, along with Sen. Robert Stivers and Sen. Damon Thayer, toured communities in Morgan, Magoffin and Kenton counties. They were joined by Rep. John Will Stacy in West Liberty, Rep. John Short in Salyersville, and Rep. Adam Koenig in Piner.
Lt. Governor Abramson visted East Bernstadt in Laurel County, he was joined by Sen. Tom Jenson.
On Friday, the Governor declared a statewide emergency to allow local officials to immediately access state resources to assist in public safety and recovery efforts. Ten counties have declared states of emergency: Bath, Campbell, Johnson, Kenton, Laurel, Lawrence, Magoffin, Pendleton, Rowan and Trimble as well as the city of Paintsville.
In the wake of the multiple tornadoes and severe storms, Governor Beshear also signed a consumer protection executive order to implement Kentucky's price-gouging laws statewide as of Friday, March 2. The executive order comes at the request of Attorney General Jack Conway and will allow for investigation into any complaints of price gouging that may occur involving gas, building supplies, hotels and other goods and services following the storms.
Anyone with specific information regarding possible price-gouging is encouraged to email [email protected] or to call the Consumer Protection Hotline at 888-432-9257
Source WBIR News
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was in West Liberty, Kentucky Sunday.
McConnell toured the tornado damage and is promising help for Kentucky.
The town was torn apart by an EF-3 tornado packing winds up to 135 miles an hour.
McConnell is complimenting residents, calling them tough folks who will rebuild their town.
State officials say about 220 National Guard troops have already been deployed to the county.
The White House also released a statement from the president offering federal assistance to the state.
Copyright 2012 WDRB News. All Rights Reserved.
Well maybe I'm wrong.

But where is OBAMA?! He's not being very vocal about the situation

“"South of Southern”

Since: Jun 10

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#12 Mar 5, 2012
guest wrote:
Yeah Raw, where is your hero Hal Rogers??? LOL. You're right though about appalachian people being neglected by gov't. The thing is though, it's always been that way. We're the outcasts of this nation, the black sheep of the American family. It might explain most peoples' friendly disposition around here though, we have each other and don't need any damn federal gov't. I wish we had local leaders that would round up volunteers to help, but they're too damn lazy. It's not Obama's fault completely either, the governor can declare a state of emergency and dispatch the Nat'l Guard.
If you are the same guest that has been arguing with me about coal.(I dont know if you are or not. They're so many dang guest on here I can't keep the run of 'em) You sure have a lot of nerve saying: "WE" ..... WE??..... Are you kidding? Boy you have a lot of nerve saying things like "WE have each other!"

A person who rejoices at the thought of some hard working coal miner losing his job has the gall to include himself in this community?!! To think a person who continually sides with the Appalachia killing agendas of Obama would dare say that they belong to this community??

You may have been born here. You may live here! But YOU ARE NOT one of us!!! Period!!!!!

Since: Aug 10

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#13 Mar 5, 2012
So, what have your Senators and Representatives done for you? What have you done to take what they suggest you do, take personal responsibility? Why should I have to pay for your loss?? Ask Limbaugh, he'll help you.
bambam

Harlan, KY

#14 Mar 5, 2012
Gentlemen, even though Raw and myself have had a back and forth blasting of guest. Sorry lovemyminer didnt mean to leave you out. My request is during this time that our neighbors in different counties need our support, let's give it a break for a day or two,,and guest as long as you act like you have a brain I promise not to refer to you as boy.Just show some respect guest and use your head for something other than a hat rack.
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#15 Mar 5, 2012
I did see someone saying that national guard had been sent to London for security to keep thieves away. But that was facebook, I haven't seen, and don't expect to see Obama on tv rallying for help to come to this area. But that's ok as guest said we do help each other, there are churches opening up shelters and food drives, even accepting household items to donate to ppl that lost everything. I'm luck to live in an area that didn't get anything but it barely missed us I think. Maybe they think we have it under control and they need not interfere! Lol...
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#16 Mar 5, 2012
guest wrote:
sorry I've been busy working, but I'm on spring break so it might be sometime this week. Any suggestions?
how bout what you think of the prairie state power plant in Indiana...not necessarily a thread you would want to start I'm sure just curious. I suppose you could update us on the next rally that you attend also whenever that happens. If I were you I would spend spring break avoiding the stresses of topix arguments though, lol!!
guest

London, KY

#17 Mar 5, 2012
LoveMyMiner wrote:
<quoted text> how bout what you think of the prairie state power plant in Indiana...not necessarily a thread you would want to start I'm sure just curious. I suppose you could update us on the next rally that you attend also whenever that happens. If I were you I would spend spring break avoiding the stresses of topix arguments though, lol!!
you don't want me to get started on Peabody lol. They dodged paying federal income taxes for 2 or the last 3 years, so I'm sure they have plenty to build a power plant. GenOn Energy is closing seven coal plants and one oil-fired plant in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois. The switch to natural gas is a big step towards renewables. I haven't heard anything else about rallies, we're still waiting on news on HB 167 but topix will hear about it when I do lol.
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#18 Mar 5, 2012
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
you don't want me to get started on Peabody lol. They dodged paying federal income taxes for 2 or the last 3 years, so I'm sure they have plenty to build a power plant. GenOn Energy is closing seven coal plants and one oil-fired plant in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Illinois. The switch to natural gas is a big step towards renewables. I haven't heard anything else about rallies, we're still waiting on news on HB 167 but topix will hear about it when I do lol.
Lol I'm sure they will. Idk much about this power plant, saw someone on fb say promising future for coal with an article about it I googled it but there were a million (exaggeration) things about it so I got tired of reading. Anyway seems like everywhere I look there are you and raw so I'm sure I'll have no trouble finding you all!
guest

London, KY

#19 Mar 5, 2012
I'm indifferent about it really. Its creating jobs for Indiana, but I cant figure out why a company would start up a coal plant with all the bureaucratic red tape. Also, there are more coal plants being discontinued than are being built. Yeah me and Raw may be some of the loudest people on here lol. Do you like Ron Paul? I found a new video of him up in Alaska, he touches a bit on his energy policy, and even mentions the word "deregulation". I wonder why more people around here don't support him, especially since he wants to axe the EPA and let the market dictate where we get our energy. Anyway, here is the link if you're interested.

http://runronpaul.com/interviews/ron-paul-anc...
LoveMyMiner

Anderson, SC

#20 Mar 6, 2012
Thanks I'll look at it!

“"South of Southern”

Since: Jun 10

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#21 Mar 6, 2012
Richard Weed wrote:
So, what have your Senators and Representatives done for you? What have you done to take what they suggest you do, take personal responsibility? Why should I have to pay for your loss?? Ask Limbaugh, he'll help you.
Around Appalachia we have been taking personal responsibility for as long as people have dwelt in these mountains. Because we know and understand that when it comes to Appalachia you better not wait for the government to do a dang thing to help you.

The most self reliant people in the U.S live right here in the mountains of Appalachia.

I was just wondering why after every major disaster in this nation our president is on T.V usually within the day declaring and promising federal aid. Movie stars, politicians, athletes all are eager and ready to help and support people who suffer from natural disasters in other arts of the nation. But here in Appalachia. about all you get is a "Oh I fell so sorry for those poor people"

Well I'm sure the proud people of West Liberty and other parts of Ky dont need their pity. They will survive with, or without help from the rest of the nation.

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