Vagos motorcycle club targeted in Southern California crime sweep

[Liberacesballsac]

Dino wrote:

<quoted text>Always heard you were a great pianist.
But, you really suck on the organ...

You silly boy! Yes, I do suck on the organ. Care for a demonstration? It would be so wonderful, darling!

[Darby]

Hey Mitch and Dino. Thanks for trying to hook me up , but I gotta pass.Dino you seem to like the word idiot and I am sure you have been called one all your life, starting with your parents. Any way Dino, first off when you join the service they ask you if you are a active member of a gang and if you say yes they don't want you. So if you know any active gang members in the military they lied when they joined or joined after they enlisted and they don't advertise that they belong to a gang, they live a lie. And no Dino I have never seen a vagos sell drugs, but the vagos members have been convicted of dealing drugs and much worse crimes and are not put out of their gang. And why, because the vagos are a criminal organization. Also Dino, I never saw Jeffery Dalmer eat or kill anyone, but he did. Our prisons are filled with gangs and gang members and I have never seen any of them commit crimes. I have never seen any of the Bloods or Crypts or vagos in prison sell drugs or anything else, maybe we should let them out. Hell I didn't see them so they must be innocent. You're a clown that could not make a valid point unless someone helped you. But you go on and keep defending criminals, shows where you are in life. Like Busa King said, " Keep your house in order." Then idiots ( IDIOTS ) like me won't think of the vagos as just another bunch of criminals. And yo Godzilla the constitution dose not give you the right to break the law. While you may be well spoken, your facts are twisted.

[Darby]

And one more thing Godzilla a " news flash " just for you. My opinion was not for the criminal minded as yourself. I just didn't care very much for a bunch of criminals trying to justify the criminal activity of the vagos. And obviously you and some other clowns care enough about my opinions to respond. In closing let me say, keep riding around without your helmet. Nature has a funny way of weeding clowns like you out of the gene pool.

[godzilla]

OK Darby, I'll play for a minute...

Darby wrote:

first off when you join the service they ask you if you are a active member of a gang and if you say yes they don't want you. So if you know any active gang members in the military they lied when they joined or joined after they enlisted and they don't advertise that they belong to a gang, they live a lie.

If a guy is a member of a gang then it might be a problem but being a member of a motorcycle club is different. Just because the cops and other fools choose to define it as a gang does not make it so.

Darby wrote:

And no Dino I have never seen a vagos sell drugs,

Yet you are willing to come here and vilify all Vagos as drug dealers.

Darby wrote:

but the vagos members have been convicted of dealing drugs and much worse crimes and are not put out of their gang.

I suppose you would have to be a member of a gang to be put out of one.

Individuals from all walks of life including cops, judges and politicians have been convicted of the same crimes that individuals that happen to be Vagos have and just like the individuals that happen to be Vagos they pay a price for their crimes. There have been quite a few guys put out for doing these types of things and there have been quite a few that haven't. You can support and love your brother while not condoning his mistakes.

Darby wrote:

And why, because the vagos are a criminal organization.

That's a bit of a reach.

Darby wrote:

Also Dino, I never saw Jeffery Dalmer eat or kill anyone, but he did.

I fairly sure that there were quite a few pieces of evidence to prove the Dahmer case.

Darby wrote:

Our prisons are filled with gangs and gang members and I have never seen any of them commit crimes. I have never seen any of the Bloods or Crypts or vagos in prison sell drugs or anything else, maybe we should let them out. Hell I didn't see them so they must be innocent.

I've never seen any of the people that are in prison commit any crimes. The fact that you or I didn't see them commit the crime is irrelevant to whether they did or didn't do it and bears no weight on whether or not they should be there.

These are individual cases against individuals and apparently there was enough evidence to gain a conviction.

It is commonly accepted that O.J. killed Nichole and Ron but his ass is free isn't it?

Darby wrote:

You're a clown that could not make a valid point unless someone helped you.

I'm helping...

Darby wrote:

Like Busa King said, " Keep your house in order." Then idiots ( IDIOTS ) like me won't think of the vagos as just another bunch of criminals.

You would think that no matter how much evidence to the contrary you were shown. You have shown on your posts a tendency to not be swayed from your preconcieved opinions.

Darby wrote:

And yo Godzilla the constitution dose not give you the right to break the law. While you may be well spoken, your facts are twisted.

I never said the constitution gave you the right to break the law. It does however give me the right to live as I choose and associate with anyone that I want to. I don't sell drugs nor do I perform any of the other heinous acts that you accuse us of, and none of the guys I know do.

I would be left with no choice but to tell you that it is you that can't get your facts straight.

[godzilla]

Darby wrote:

And one more thing Godzilla a " news flash " just for you. My opinion was not for the criminal minded as yourself.

You know nothing about me and yet you assume I have a criminal mind...You make my point for me.

Darby wrote:

I just didn't care very much for a bunch of criminals trying to justify the criminal activity of the vagos.

Again, Having never met me and knowing nothing about me you assume that I am a criminal...You are (once again) making my point more eloquently than I ever could.

Darby wrote:

And obviously you and some other clowns care enough about my opinions to respond.

I do what I can to correct the lies that are foisted upon us by insufferable fools such as you.

Darby wrote:

In closing let me say, keep riding around without your helmet. Nature has a funny way of weeding clowns like you out of the gene pool.

Wow...As much of an idiot as I believe you to be I never wished death or serious injury upon you.

(and by the way I wear a very nice full face helmet)

It speaks volumes about who you are and doesn't paint a very nice picture of who that guy is.

Besides....You're too late, My kids are all grown and having kids of their own so the strong genes still thrive and survive in spite of the evil wishes of the weak among us such as yourself.

Peace to you and yours...

[MITCH AKA WOODSTOCK]

darby,,you have to be retarded !! the vagos are NOT a criminal organization !! if there members that are selling drugs,the club does NOT get a cut nor does the club condone such actions !!! if you are found to be doing drugs,,you will be dealt with !! vagos do NOT do driveby's !! if a vago happens to commit a crime ,that does not make all vagos guilty !!! so instead of accusing the club,you need to back out of this site !!!

[Don1500]

Will this thread never die?

[Dino]

Very well said Godzilla!!

Hit every point I was going to make (right down to the type of helmet I wear) saved me a lot of typing!

Ride Safe, Die Free...

[Darby]

Well said? If you don't have an iota of living brain cells. And I do not wish death on anyone except registered sexual offenders. This shit on the news now about this little girl killed by a couple of sexual offenders makes me want to just get into my car and go kill some of them. Sorry, got off the subject there.

[Lee]

Thier have been documented drug deals and drug use, murder, rape, conspiracy, selling Government secrets to other countries for money, thieves, child molesting and child rape, and prostitution by Fire depts, Police, Sheriffs, State Agencies, and Federal Agencies since they have been founded. Thier are even Teachers having sex with underage students..are you going to take your child out of school now? Of course not, a majority of teachers are hardworking, underpaid, servants to the state...doing allot with a little, but there are bad apples. These agencies have been doing it way before the VAGOS have been around...but yet we give them respect and honor for what they do...You can Google more crimes by cops then the VAGOS...Hell they make movies about thier atroscities though Im sure they put a little Hollywood spin on it. The Military has a large % of gang members in it..a news agency just did a 2 hr show on it and showed all the gang tagging in Irag, Afgan, and Militay bases in the states. But we give them a well deserved hand shake, hug and our repect. Every CLUB including Law Enforcment Club has bad apples..So most of you are talking out of ignorance. Thier are a percentage of VAGOS or Green Supporters that are college educated and professionals and most dont even have a criminal record...Thier are cops out thier that have misdemeanors on thier record, and they received the charge while on the department, and they are still working. I have a lot of respect for the Law and Military...If you give them repect and dont condem them for the VERY BAD APPLES they have...Why do not give respect to a CLUB? Because the COPS say so? Stop being a follower, use your own head, and actually think for yourselves. Common sence should prevail...but this country has lost a but of it. We are so used to believing what AUTORITIES have to say without questioning it. Even though the people saying it could be the worst of the two. "WE GIVE WHAT WE GET"

[Lee]

Darby wrote:

Freedom for criminals to sell drugs to our children. Nope,that wasn't why I joined. If you were a vagos and don't think the vagos are a criminal organization then you are either really stupid or a liar. I bet you think the American nazi party is a great bunch of guys to. If you love to fight go out into your neighborhood and fight to keep our children free from gangs and drugs. I keep mine safe.

Darby, I was a cop for 10 years...I saw cops selling drugs, cops who were accused of rape, child molestation, stealing from the county to buy crack, and every other crime you can think of...I even had to go to a retired Marines house because he was BEATING his BOYFRIEND because he didnt swallow! NO JOKE! Ive had to arrest several Marines for spousal abuse, drug abuse and several other crimes off base. But I dont say the Marine Corp. is full of a bunch of wife beating drug using homos. They are not! I wish I could have been a Marine...but a spinal cord injury when I was 12 detured that dream. I respect the fact that you are anti drug and anti spousal abuse, and you are raising your children right...we need people like you who are willing to serve this country and be a good American. But dont start rambling hate about something you know little about. The MC world was allot differant in the 60's when they got this reputation then it is now...and yes there are some undersirables in these MC's. But there are undesirables in the Law Enforment Club local, state, and federal....and in our Military. I can Google more cops being arrested, and Military accussed of doing something wrong then I can a VAGO. There was that Marine that is accused of Murdering a female Marine while she had a child in her belly, and buried her and child in his back yard...and the recent preg Army female found decomposing in a Hotel, and the person of interest is in the Army as well...this list can go on and on...These are done by the few...not the collective...Thank you for your service Darby, and I am sure your children haved a great father...but please teach them not to judge others by the acts of the few. "WE GIVE WHAT WE GET"

[godzilla]

Darby wrote:

And I do not wish death on anyone...

Really?

Read your own words Darby!

Darby wrote:

In closing let me say, keep riding around without your helmet. Nature has a funny way of weeding clowns like you out of the gene pool.

What you don't seem to understand is, Words mean things and when you say words that mean certain things and then try to back away from what you said it makes you look like you:

(a) Don't think before you speak

(b) Say things you don't really mean in order to
generate a response.

(c) Aren't man enough to stand by what you say.

(d) All of the above.

I believe the correct answer is (d) for reasons that are obvious to anyone except you Darby.
It's sad that you can't see how foolish you look to everyone.

You need to learn more about the constitution that you swore to uphold and defend and quit hating people that you know NOTHING about just because you don't understand them.

Darby wrote:

except registered sexual offenders.

What about the unregistered ones? I don't like them either.

Does that make me better than you?'Cause you must like the unregistered ones that you chose not to mention...

Just teasing you Darby!

Try to learn how to communicate, It'll make your lies less confusing.

Darby wrote:

This shit on the news now about this little girl killed by a couple of sexual offenders makes me want to just get into my car and go kill some of them. Sorry, got off the subject there.

HEY DARBY!!!!

We finally agree on something. Child molesters are bad people and deserve the worst that we can give them.

See Ya Darby

[MITCH AKA WOODSTOCK]

lee,said it right !!! nothing else to say !!!

[Valkyrie]

Godzilla, I see your keeping it straight and real on here as usual. Respect and luv to the Green. Jeri Foreman told me to say hi to you and Shooter. So hi. Peace & Luv
Valkyrie

[Darby]

When you try to deflect the truth about the vagos by pointing out the bad deeds of others you make a poor argument.See the difference is that when a cop or marine is convicted of a crime they are no longer part of their service. They get thrown out and scorned by their fellow officers and marines.When a vagos gets convicted of a crime they are not put out of their gang and they get to go to prison and hang out with their fellow gang members.No one can sanely dispute the fact that vagos gang members are convicted of selling hard drug, stealing bikes,trafficking guns and murder.No one can dispute the fact that vagos members take a vow to impede law enforcement.while all vagos members may not be criminals, all vagos belong to a criminal street gang. Who do you call when your car is stolen or someone breaks into your home or heaven forbid your child is missing. Do you call the vagos? Or do you call the police? It is beyond absurdity that anyone would try to say that the vagos are just a club of law abiding citizens. The vagos give a bad name to those who like to ride. And anyone who defends their behavior is a stain on all decent bikers. So you clowns keep defending the vagos, and pointing out when cops and marines break the law if that makes you feel better about yourselves. Happy 4th of July to all the bikers out their who ride without joining a gang and believe in being a good law abiding citizen.

[Darby]

Also for those of you that don't know what the vagos are really about. They don't let women or blacks join and they have ties to Nazi white hate groups. So go a head and defend them. Really shows who you are.

[MITCH AKA WOODSTOCK]

so darby,,,you are saying,,,that all bikers that are not in clubs dont do crimes?? that if you are not in a club that you are not guilty?? but if you happen to be in the vagos you are guilty of everything,,,,,you need to just shut up !!!!!! you have NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT !!!!!! NO WONDER YOU GET BEAT UP WHEN YOU GO INTO BARS,,,you are just a brainless loudmouth !!

[Lee]

Darby you obviously dont know what you are talking about...cops who are accused of crimes are put on admin leave and/or made to do light duty until they are put on trial and/or convicted. Now if the crime if convicted hinders them from driving a patrol car or carring a firearm they will most of the time stay on the job with dicipline..which can be loss of rank and/or pay. That is why they have unions with attorneys..they fight to keep their jobs..and there are several working who have been convicted of crimes. Some may even be the ones answering the call to come to your home to take your report. And most people have to call the cops for a report...how else can you get a case number for your insurance...insurance requires it...so it is your only option. As for the military I know there are Marines here on base that have commited crimes and still working..but I have no idea how the military handles their cases. The only reason I know of a few cases that Marines are still working is my neighbor is a JAG officer with the Marines. So for you to say that cops and Marines are fired for commiting crimes is either ignorance or just a lie. Again you have no idea what you are talking about...What do you know about Vagos anyways...all the way out there in VA. Do you condone the Vietnam Vets MC, Legacy Vets MC? They all associate together including the HA's and VAGOS. And the honerably discharged vets and combat vets in these clubs. Or are all these Vets criminal minded also...which is your argument right?. That is the only word you can throw out.."criminal"...it sounds like you have allot of experiance with criminal activity...are you speaking from personal experiance? The Military ran guns and drugs in the metal coffins of their commrades during Vietnam. Personel from all branches are commiting crimes as we type in Iraq ect..That is why my neighbor is doing his second tour as a JAG officer..Like I said the list is way longer for bad deeds done by the Law Enforcment Gang, and the Military then it is by the Vagos. The only one deflecting the truth is you...The only stain on the underwear of the "BIKER" name is people like you who think it is all about you and what you think and theur can be no other way. And if you are calling me a stain for defending people like the Vagos..THANK YOU...that is a stain I am proud to be..Youve been brainwashed man...and honestly it sounds like you are jealous of MC's like the Vagos..I guarantee when you are out riding with your closed minded friends and a club like the Vagos shows up you talk crap amongst yourselves very quietly and wont even confront them with your very very strong views that you are so proud of..you sound like your all talk, and no bite. Enjoy your 4th that many criminal gang member Vets in these Clubs that you condone have fought for.

[FBI Guest]

Darby wrote:

Also for those of you that don't know what the vagos are really about. They don't let women or blacks join and they have ties to Nazi white hate groups. So go a head and defend them. Really shows who you are.

And the "Boy Scouts" forbid homosexuals from joining their organization... The Boy Scouts sure sound like a hate group too if you're gay. In comparison to your said generalized statement above, that means all Boy Scouts are "gay - haters."

Defend your own comments and show us an example of hypocrisy... No mumbling please!

[Darby]

Once again you clowns want to talk about everything besides the vagos and the fact that they don't admit blacks or women. Or the fact that they don't throw out members when they get convicted of selling meth, stealing bikes or murder. Or the fact that members have been convicted of selling guns to white supremacists. All you clowns want to talk about is a few bad marines and cops.Before you clowns compare yourselves to cops show me a cop who has been convicted of selling drugs or murder and is still a cop. But see bozos this is want you want to talk about, the crimes of others. You don't want to defend the crimes of vagos. You just want to deflect the truth by pointing out the crimes of others, like that makes the crimes vagos get convicted of alright. And now instead of answering why the vagos allows members who steal bikes and selling drugs remain members.You clowns want to talk about the Boy Scouts now. You're a joke. The boy scouts don't want gays men teaching our children morality. Yeah, that's right, like the vagos are okay with gay members. I got no problem with gays, can you say the same bozo? And lastly, no I won't be going up to a bunch of vagos and telling them what I think of them. Just as you posers won't be coming to my home town and practicing your racial and criminal activities. 99% of the clown who join the vagos are punks who would never fight one on one alone. They're scared,that's why they joined a gang. And if one of them loses a fair fight they go get their fellow punk gang members to fight for them. We don't play those games in my neck of the world and that's why no punk gang has a strong hold on the Washington D.C. area.We who ride around here won't have guys like you around.And I am more of a man than of you will ever be and I don't need to join a gang to be a man. So you clowns keep talking about the Boy Scouts and I keep to the subject. A 15 year old scout is more of a man than any vagos will ever be. I bet your mother is real proud of all you vagos.How are you going deflect the truth next time bozo?