BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 242545 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Ellen

Dedham, MA

#88791 Jul 2, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964): "We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native-born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive.
The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the 'natural born' citizen is eligible to be President."
That is true, and the meaning of Natural Born Citizen comes from the common law and refers to the PLACE of birth. All US citizens born in the USA are Natural Born Citizens. The only kind of a US citizen who is not a Natural Born Citizen is a naturalized citizen.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#88792 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
INS DOC FOUND: U.S. CERTIFICATE ISSUED TO ONE EAST AFRICAN-BORN CHILD OF U.S. CITIZEN IN 1961!
IMPLICATIVE DISCOVERY: A government document found buried in the online reference section of a Boston Public Library archive bolsters a growing mountain of evidentiary data against Barack Obama’s constitutional eligibility to be president. The document indicates that a consular officer issued a single certificate of statutory citizenship, within the time frame including August 4, 1961, to a child born to a U.S. citizen between July 1st and December 31st, 1961 in the Kenyan region of Africa. The record also reveals that the certificate was the only one issued for this specific type of arrival in the U.S. over a span of more than 18 months, among thousands from other parts of the world.
Well I must say you didn't disappoint - I asked you to spend your time away digging up some new crap to paste in ... and you dredge up a buttload.

No if only you had a clue as to how stupid you look ... but we know you don't

(really - the Dily Pen? What is the problem? Were Lucas Smith's fakes too high quality for your liking?)....

BTW "JustPastininCrap" .... here's the actual document that the Daily Pen claims as it's source ...

http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...

amazing what it does (and doesn't say)...(hint - first lie - it doesn't say "the Kenyan region of Africa")... and of course the lie completely ignores the FACT that if Obama had actually been born in "Other Africa" in 1961, he would not have been a US Citizen under the law in effect at that time ... and so of course would not be counted by INS as "US Citizne born in Other Africa in 1961"

The Daily Pen must think birthers are real idiots to try to pawn off a story like this ... oops - looks like that in at least one instance they were right

Another day, another pathetic Birfoon lie
Ellen

Dedham, MA

#88793 Jul 2, 2012
WelbyMD wrote:
<quoted text>There are different rules for Democrats. Palin farted, Dan Quayle mispelled POTATO and Nixon had to resign over that petty Watergate nonsense but illegal-alien Obama stealing an SSN & forging a BC we can let slide. www.WND.com
www.WND.com
Obama is not an illegal alien, and he did not forge his SSN or his BC.

Quayle really did misspell, and Nixon covered up, meaning using the US government to hide an illegal act.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88794 Jul 2, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama's short form birth certificate is not fake, and there is no box for remarks on it. Here are detailed images of Obama's short-form birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii:
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
Take a good look and then scrap factcheck as a source because everyone on this thread knows factcheck is an Obama slave.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-birt...
Ellen

Dedham, MA

#88796 Jul 2, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is the letter from Dr. Onaka. At no time does it discuss any "information" that was not on the jpg BC Obama has release. At no time did Dr. Onaka say that that BC was the one issued by Hawaii!
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/20...
It says quite clearly "Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files."

That means that there is not a single fact on the birth certificate that Obama published that is different from what is in the files.

And that was the first of two statements by Onaka. The second one is this:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/06/offici... --(See the last document in the file), and it also says that Onaka certifies that the information in the published birth certificate matches the information on the file. This also means that there is not a single fact different on the published version than on the document in the files.

Why should Onaka have said that the published birth certificate is a Hawaii birth certificate? He was not asked that. He was asked whether there is a birth certificate in the Hawaii files and whether all the facts on the document Obama published are accurate as compared with it, and he said yes to both questions.

The idea that all the facts could be the same as on a birth certificate issued by Hawaii and there be a birth certificate in the Hawaii files and there being a statement from the director of health of Hawaii that she sent a birth certificate to Obama via his lawyer---is pretty crazy.

The fact that a birth certificate exists for Obama in Hawaii is further confirmed by the Index Data and by the birth notices in the Hawaii newspapers, and by the fact that Hawaii is thousands of miles away from the nearest foreign country.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#88797 Jul 2, 2012
BTW Just Pastin in Crap - from the same source the Daily Pen was really hoping you wouldn't read ...

# of US Citiznes arriving by air from Kenya during the 12 month period ending JUne 30, 1962 ...

That's correct - ZERO.

http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...

Only in Birfistan could Obama's mother trave;l to Kenya (without his father), give birth, get Babay Obama certified as a US Citizen even though that wasn't the law at the time, return to the US in time to attend classes in Washington State that fall - all without reentering the Country.

It must REALLY suck to be a Birfoon.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88798 Jul 2, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
According to this Gallup pole, only 38-47% say he was definitely born in America!!!!
Terri sent a boy.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88799 Jul 2, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
Here is the letter from Dr. Onaka. At no time does it discuss any "information" that was not on the jpg BC Obama has release. At no time did Dr. Onaka say that that BC was the one issued by Hawaii!
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/20...
Lame. Childish.

The information "matched". That includes item 23, BirfoonBoy.

The verification was conducted exactly as provided for by statute.

Grow up.

§ 338-14.3 provides for verification of the information "in lieu of the issuance of a certified copy". That means it can't possibly be a certified copy issued by DOH. Verification according to § 338-14.3 is not intended to include an investigation of how the non-certified copy was printed. If you think it is, I suggest you read the statute. Now if you want to believe that the White House manufactured a BC that matches the original record you're welcome to, but please, get professional help.

Verifications have been provided to a court and to a Secretary of a State as evidence. They know what it means. It is official documentary proof that President Obama was born in Hawaii at Kapiolani Hospital on August 4, 1961. Rouge Birfoon simply does not understand the obvious. Yet the birfoon still seems to believe he should be entitled to see the microfiche despite the law. There is no need to indulge the infantile meddling paranoid schizophrenic and violate the law no matter how badly the Birfoon "wants" it.

Grow up!
American Lady

Danville, KY

#88801 Jul 2, 2012
Bad Judges exist. We all know they do.[See Judges as Criminals?] Very few practicing lawyers are willing or able to expose Bad Judges publicly, for they are at great risk when they must later appear again before the exposed Bad Judge. Exposure of rotten judicial apples offends and embarrasses the entire judiciary. When a lawyer, in diligent pursuit of his client's interests, dares stand up to Bad Judges, the "system" locks arms, and seeks to punish or suppress the iconoclastic lawyer. The system's resistance to admitting the existence of a bad judge can be astounding. Yet someone must stand up to challenge this cancer within the Judiciary. Bad Judges need to be weeded out. It is to the fair, competent judges that the following is dedicated.

Before you go before a Judge, try to learn the Judge's record!

http://caught.net/prose/badjudge.htm
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88802 Jul 2, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama's short form birth certificate is not fake, and there is no box for remarks on it. Here are detailed images of Obama's short-form birth certificate, the official birth certificate of Hawaii:
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/08/born-in-the-...
Hows come your source at factcheck has the shadow of an arm covering up the part of the certificate where the seal should be?

Fake....Fake.......Fake...Fake ....Fake....Fake
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88803 Jul 2, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I must say you didn't disappoint - I asked you to spend your time away digging up some new crap to paste in ... and you dredge up a buttload.
No if only you had a clue as to how stupid you look ... but we know you don't
(really - the Dily Pen? What is the problem? Were Lucas Smith's fakes too high quality for your liking?)....
BTW "JustPastininCrap" .... here's the actual document that the Daily Pen claims as it's source ...
http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...
amazing what it does (and doesn't say)...(hint - first lie - it doesn't say "the Kenyan region of Africa")... and of course the lie completely ignores the FACT that if Obama had actually been born in "Other Africa" in 1961, he would not have been a US Citizen under the law in effect at that time ... and so of course would not be counted by INS as "US Citizne born in Other Africa in 1961"
The Daily Pen must think birthers are real idiots to try to pawn off a story like this ... oops - looks like that in at least one instance they were right
Another day, another pathetic Birfoon lie
Dear Learning To Read

Why is your source dated for 1962?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88804 Jul 2, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
Schneider v. Rusk, 377 U.S. 163 (1964): "We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native-born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity and are coextensive.
The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the 'natural born' citizen is eligible to be President."
Absolutely correct. The only difference between the native-born citizen and naturalized is that the native-born citizen is eligible to be President.

"Our concept of citizenship was inherited from England and, accordingly, was based on the principle that rights conferred by naturalization were subject to the conditions reserved in the grant." Id. at 170.

“Under our Constitution, a naturalized citizen stands on an equal footing with the native citizen in all respects, save that of eligibility to the Presidency.” Luria v. United States, 231 US 9, 22 (1913)(internal citations omitted).

Now take that to your middle school teacher and see if s/he can explain it to you.
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right BirfoonLady, the native citizen is eligible to be president; the naturalized citizen is not.
“All persons born in the allegiance of the King are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.… We find no warrant for the opinion that this great principle of the common law has ever been changed in the United States.” United States v. Rhodes, 27 F Cas 785, 789 (C.C.D.Ky. 1866)

“zero nuclear weapons”

Since: Sep 08

Perryville

#88805 Jul 2, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is not an illegal alien, and he did not forge his SSN or his BC.
Quayle really did misspell, and Nixon covered up, meaning using the US government to hide an illegal act.
The biggest mistake he made was when he compared himself to President Kennedy

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#88806 Jul 2, 2012
To the illiterate birfoon, got a clue the meaning of "the latter, apart from the exception noted"?

"We start from the premise that the rights of citizenship of the native born and of the naturalized person are of the same dignity, and are coextensive. The only difference drawn by the Constitution is that only the "natural born" citizen is eligible to be President. Art. II,§ 1.

Page 377 U. S. 166

While the rights of citizenship of the native born derive from § 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment and the rights of the naturalized citizen derive from satisfying, free of fraud, the requirements set by Congress, the latter, apart from the exception noted,

"becomes a member of the society, possessing all the rights of a native citizen, and standing, in the view of the constitution, on the footing of a native."

The exception noted for the latter (naturalized citizens) does not apply to the former (native born) who derive citizenship rights from the Fourteenth Amendment.

This means, Birfoons, that the right of the native-born citizen under the Fourteenth Amendment is a natural born citizen not subject to the "exceptioon noted."

Learn to read, Birfoons.
JEB

Studio City, CA

#88807 Jul 2, 2012
nebka wrote:
<quoted text>
The biggest mistake he made was when he compared himself to President Kennedy
Quayle was fun.

Tom Cruise could play him in a film.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#88808 Jul 2, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Says he’ll even subsidize it for you if you can’t afford it.
So Obama is going to pay for everyones insurance?

You're an idiot!!!!

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#88809 Jul 2, 2012
Poppo wrote:
<quoted text>
Q: During the Clinton administration was the federal budget balanced? Was the federal deficit erased?
No..

Clinton raped intra-governmental funds to show a surplus on the public holdings.

His "surplus" was nothing more than fancy accounting.
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88810 Jul 2, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
BTW Just Pastin in Crap - from the same source the Daily Pen was really hoping you wouldn't read ...
# of US Citiznes arriving by air from Kenya during the 12 month period ending JUne 30, 1962 ...
That's correct - ZERO.
http://archive.org/stream/annualreportofim196...
Only in Birfistan could Obama's mother trave;l to Kenya (without his father), give birth, get Babay Obama certified as a US Citizen even though that wasn't the law at the time, return to the US in time to attend classes in Washington State that fall - all without reentering the Country.
It must REALLY suck to be a Birfoon.
There is no way I am going to look through some outdated book you posted just to prove you wrong.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.
JEB

Studio City, CA

#88811 Jul 2, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
There is no way I am going to look through some outdated book you posted just to prove you wrong.
The Immigration and Naturalization Service published its annual Report of the Immigration and Naturalization Service in 1963, for the year of July 1st, 1961 ending on June 30th, 1962. According to information on page 99 of the report the only certificate of acquired citizenry issued based on the grounds of birth to a U.S. citizen abroad was coincidentally also issued in the same time frame during which Barack Obama’s alleged birth date occurred on August 4th, 1961.
so the Honolulu newspaper accounts, were part of the conspiracy when he was a week old. Tricky
Just Sayin

Toledo, OH

#88812 Jul 2, 2012
Ellen wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is not an illegal alien, and he did not forge his SSN or his BC.
Quayle really did misspell, and Nixon covered up, meaning using the US government to hide an illegal act.
Why did e-verify flag his Social Security number that he used to file his 2010 taxes?

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