Ada teen death investigation

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News Channel 4 is learning more details about a high-speed pursuit in Pontotoc County Sunday morning that ended in the death of a teenage driver.

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Hanz

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Glad this punk was stopped before he hurt anyone else. Justification for the Trooper's actions is a no brainer. Good job Trooper McKee. Thanks for all you and your co-workers do everyday!
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Glad to see it is looking like the officers will be cleared of wrong doing.
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I hate that this young man lost his life. However, speaking as the sister of a police officer(who serves in South Carolina),these brave men and women put there lives on the line everytime they go to work. The mother stated she wished they would have tried something else to stop her son. The minute the officer put his lights and siren on, the young man should have stopped. By his reckless behavior he put others in jeopardy and Trooper McKee had to protect the innocent.
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a sad time for his family, there in my prayers.....but, for EVERY decision you make, there is a consequence.... unfortunatly he made a wrong one... good job police....keep the highways safe!!!
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Thank you OHP for taking this guy off the streets...I dont feel you did anything wrong. He made the decision to drink and drive and run from the police. Thank you for protecting my daughter and grandson's who use these roads. Usually its the innocent ones who suffer. Keep up the good work guys!
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How tragic for everyone involved. The officer did his duty and I appreciate it. So sad it had to end the way it did.
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Of course they are going to say "there was an odor of alcohol". Coming from Ada direction, it was probably the cops. My uncle is a police officer but give me a break. They are not always as perfect as people make them out to be. Being in Pontotoc county, the boy probably tried to pull over, the cop nudged him anyway and he lost control. If alcohol was such a big deal, then why haven't they said anything about the level he had in his body...hmmm.. And who are you to say that he was a punk? And your better? Probably not. It could have been anyone's "perfect little angel" but since you don't know him, he's a punk and got what he had coming. Hope the good Lord doesn't think the same thing about you one day.
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This boy who just turned 18 (for your information)is not a punk. He is someones son, someones grandson, a human being who was scared. Yes, it could have done it a different way. I'm sure he would have said the same thing if it was his son or your son. He could have stopped him without flipping his vehicle twelve times. So is this the last resort to stopping the vehicles who are not criminals or have weapons? I agree he should have stopped, but making him flip twelve time getting him killed was not the solution.
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If he would have lived then they would have just brought in there buddy with the bad temper and beat him up.
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A punk, maybe not. Scared, definitely, because he probably had been drinking and they will know for sure when the toxicology reports come back. The police officer didn't make him flip 12 times. He was driving an SUV which are notorious for flipping anyway and he should have been wearing his seat belt. I believe the kid wasn't stopping for a good reason, and this police officer did the right thing. It is unfortunate how it ended up but many, many times there is always someone that flips out like this and ends up killing innocent people who were minding their own business. It very easily could have been someone you loved that died due to someone else's negligence. This police officer didn't know who he was dealing with; someone who just shot a convenience store clerk for $25, a teenager who had been out drinking with buddies, or another Timothy McVeigh. The officer did his job and I appreciate it. And personally, I don't have any sympathy for anyone who doesn't obey the law.
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Josh was only 18, still a teenager and still growning. He was not a man yet, like the police makes him out to be. Josh was going 70 miles an hour. The tactic is to be used ONLY if he was traveling under 35 miles an hours. IS THAT CORRECT? I can see using that type of tactic in a big city with lots of traffic at 2 a.m. There is not any traffic after midnight in Ada. If you are out you will get stoppped and questioned. I've never seen that tactic used on television cop shows. Blow out a tire, put out nail strips yes, something that doesn't drastically take a life. I feel for the teenagers in Ada now. How many more are going to be killed like this? I'm afraid for my grandchildren to start driving. They are good kids though not perfect, no one is a perfect child. The cops are to protect not to kill. They were protecting the other drivers but where they protecting Josh. If they would have left him alone he would have gone home. He didn't do a crime to be killed. All he did was drive in someones yard. I'm making sure that I don't drive in anyones yard or run over their roses... Goodness, it is fall now the roses won't last any longer. My heart goes out to the family and all families that have teenagers who drive in Ada, Oklahoma. Keep a close eye on your loved ones, no one is perfect.
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There be no action taken it will all be the kid's fault. especially it the parents are wealthy this is the way things go in Pontotoc county.
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So its everyone elses fault but the criminals?!? The punk was old enough to know better then to run from the police.
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Ok yes he was only 18 yes he was just a kid no one can judge him except GOD that is the only person in this world that can rightfully judge someone. Yes it is very sad to hear that he died but look at what lead up to his death first off if you see flashing lights behind you just pull over it will be worse if you dont which this was he was not wearing a seat belt which in this case he got thrown out the window if he was wearing one maybe he could of lived yes he would of been hurt but he may still have his life. Weather or not there was the smell of alchol on his breath only the officers medics and all rescue members on scene will know and the medical eximner. For the one that wants to bash Ponatoc officers and the Ada officer well they are doing their job and none of you were there to judge weather the officers did teh right or wrong thing all you are seeing is what the media has to say which is not the full story just what they want you to see. I am fully behind all the officers in Ponatoc county and think they do an awsome job of keeping us safe this could of happen anywhere Oklahoma county is not all peaches and cream this happens there also and every other county out there. Law enforcement officers are here to protect and serve yes they may not be the good guys all the time but if you screw up then you are going to see the wrong side of the officers if you want to be on the roads drunk or high on some stupid drug that is your own business but dont get pissed cause you get caught and either go to jail or get killed in the process. My heart is with the families of the young man that was lost but as being the future wife of an officer i see where they are coming from and i do not see where the officers did anything wrong by tring to keep others safe.
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also to go along with my post above if you dont like how things are ran in ponatoc county then get the hell out move to some other county and you will see that things are ran the same way there.
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It appears the ohp has overreacted to a teenager peeling out on someones lawn.As a result of the overkill this man-boy died a horrible death.We are looking into this matter.The p.i.t. maneuver should never be performed if the suspect vehicle is traveling faster than 35 m.p.h.-this young man was traveling above 70 m.p.h.Performing P.I.T. at 70 m.p.h. is an inappropriate use of police power resuling in deadly force.
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so all of you that think that it was ok for this kid to act the way he did just think if your family was on the road with him going all over the road and it wasnt just some kid peeling out in a yard it led to more than just that. I am sure if it was just him peeling out in someones yard then why did he run he was either high drunk or had drugs on him that he did not want the police to get
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How is anyone supposed to know if an idiot running from the cops has weapons or what their intent maybe. The news story said the officer tried to box him in and he rammed them, so they did try options. This "kid" chose to escalate the situation and paid for his decision with his life however unfortunate. The ultimate responsibility lies upon the criminal, kid, whatever you want to call him for not obeying our laws.
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This boy who just turned 18 (for your information)is not a punk. He is someones son, someones grandson, a human being who was scared. Yes, it could have done it a different way. I'm sure he would have said the same thing if it was his son or your son. He could have stopped him without flipping his vehicle twelve times. So is this the last resort to stopping the vehicles who are not criminals or have weapons? I agree he should have stopped, but making him flip twelve time getting him killed was not the solution.
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Your an idiot probably a flunky in outhouse law school. The T.V.I. is considered by the courts as Non-Deadly use of force and is practiced during certification and training at these speeds. Stop bashing the officers and realise that this criminal did this to himself.
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It appears the ohp has overreacted to a teenager peeling out on someones lawn.As a result of the overkill this man-boy died a horrible death.We are looking into this matter.The p.i.t. maneuver should never be performed if the suspect vehicle is traveling faster than 35 m.p.h.-this young man was traveling above 70 m.p.h.Performing P.I.T. at 70 m.p.h. is an inappropriate use of police power resuling in deadly force.
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Seems as though the parents did a bang up job raising this upstanding citizen! I was taught to respect police officers and to pull over when I see their lights, but yet, I dont have anything to worry about because I dont drink and drive, do drugs or carry weapons.

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