New firefighters are coming

Full story: Lowell Sun 48
Ten new firefighters will soon be working at local fire stations. The 45 new recruits graduated from the Massachusetts Firefighting Academy's 60-day recruit firefighting program on Friday. Read more
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average joe

Southbridge, MA

#47 Oct 10, 2010
I can't imagine someone espousing such negative views relative to their military service. It's clear he knows his civil service rules and reg's. Btw, I am not police or fire and have not benefited from veterans preference in any manner. Good luck!
The Patriot wrote:
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This is all true and more. Chances are they were a firemen or policemen with lots of training. But you don't think this guy actually served do you.
average joe

Southbridge, MA

#48 Oct 10, 2010
Tony, I don't agree with gender or race preference personally. I do think if you are the child of police or FF killed in line of duty, you should get preference. I do realize that the best people don't always get the job with this type of system. Even veterans who receive preference for jobs should be vetted for the jobs. Just my opinion.
Tony wrote:
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Veteran status is one thing, but what about preference on gender, race or if your parent was on the force?
Tony

Maynard, MA

#49 Oct 11, 2010
average joe wrote:
Tony, I don't agree with gender or race preference personally. I do think if you are the child of police or FF killed in line of duty, you should get preference. I do realize that the best people don't always get the job with this type of system. Even veterans who receive preference for jobs should be vetted for the jobs. Just my opinion.
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Preference if your parent was killed in line of duty, most definitely. But should they get anything if parent still working or retired? Seem to be many family members getting these jobs.
average joe

Southbridge, MA

#50 Oct 11, 2010
I agree with you Tony. Too much nepotism.
Tony wrote:
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Preference if your parent was killed in line of duty, most definitely. But should they get anything if parent still working or retired? Seem to be many family members getting these jobs.
guagmire

Westminster, MA

#51 Oct 11, 2010
she'll !! be getting pounded by every other joe in the station all for females in the work place GIGGITY GIGGITY GOO!!!!!!
waambulance

Lowell, MA

#53 Oct 15, 2010
average joe wrote:
Tony, I don't agree with gender or race preference personally. I do think if you are the child of police or FF killed in line of duty, you should get preference. I do realize that the best people don't always get the job with this type of system. Even veterans who receive preference for jobs should be vetted for the jobs. Just my opinion.
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"vetted", you just made my point. Vet status should not guarantee you a job. Not everyone with vet status has served a combat tour, 180 days active duty post 9/11 (CONUS or not) and you are a vet. Many people who receive jobs as a result have never been to a combat zone. Furthermore, those who have deployed often have baggage associated with their service that would make them less desirable than non-vets.

ask around to some of your local depts vets are some of the biggest problem children.
waambulance

Lowell, MA

#54 Oct 15, 2010
The Patriot wrote:
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This is all true and more. Chances are they were a firemen or policemen with lots of training. But you don't think this guy actually served do you.
My dd214 says I did. If you truly served, you would recognize that there was a guy in your ,squad, platoon, or at the very least company who are responsible enough to walk a dog, let alone work in public safety. If you dont realize this than you are the guy.

Public Observer

New Bedford, MA

#55 Oct 15, 2010
I fully agree that Vets should be given preference for these jobs, its the least the state can do. I also agree that preference for minorities has outlived its initial purpose. You do understand though that being atop the civil service list doesn't guarantee you a job. Its the countless interviews, PAT's(physical abilities test), Physicals, and reserve list wait time. In fact you will find that most people cant stand the 2-6 wait that it takes to join a Fire/ Police Department. Its generally the people who show the dedication to the process that get the jobs. Not everyone is willing to drop everything, and run off to the Fire/ Police Academy, some people aren't even willing to take the initial pay cut. What you'll find is that the people willing to make the sacrifice are those that really want it, and have always wanted it.

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