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UN rights expert accuses Israel of 'ethnic cleansing' in treatment of Palestinians

There are 2174 comments on the Bellingham Herald story from Mar 21, 2014, titled UN rights expert accuses Israel of 'ethnic cleansing' in treatment of Palestinians. In it, Bellingham Herald reports that:

He spoke against a backdrop of deadlocked peace talks and accelerating Israeli settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem which Palestinians say is dimming their hope of establishing a viable state on contiguous territory.

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#1304 Aug 9, 2014
UIdiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
Former Pres . Jimmy Carter:
"We are completely in bed with the Israelis to the detriment of the wellbeing of the Palestinians.
Attempts to control a thread, show insecurity in both your agenda, and yourself.....

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#1305 Aug 9, 2014
I guess you'll have to move the topic back to Israel 's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians...

Such as building even more Israelis settlement in violation with Oslo accords and agreements not to expand settles with the US.

Funny how Israelis has no problems breaking agreements wqith the US but still cashing our checks and asking for MORE money on top of the billions they are already getting.
ThatOneBand

Ann Arbor, MI

#1307 Aug 9, 2014
VN Vet wrote:
Obama is like the UN, he hates Jews and the USA.
VN, let it heal man...
Mandela

Perth, Australia

#1308 Aug 10, 2014
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excerpts from the book

The Power of Israel in the United States

by James Petras

Clarity Press, 2006, paper

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Without external aid Israel's economy would require severe cutbacks in living standards and working conditions, leading to the likely flight of most Israeli professionals, businessmen, and recent overseas immigrants.

The Israeli military budget would be reduced and Israel would be obligated to reduce its military interventions in the Arab East and the Occupied Territories.

Israel would cease being a rentier state living on overseas subsidies and would be obligated to engage in productive activity-a return to farming, manufacture and services minus the exploitation of low paid Asian maids, imported Eastern Euro

Europe continues to privilege the importation of Israeli exports and financial services, despite overt and malicious attacks by leaders of both Israeli parties.

Prominent Jewish organizations linked to major parties in France and England have muted any efforts to use the "trade card" to pressure Israel to accept European Union or United Nations mediation. European trade and financial ties to Israel however are not the basic prop for the Israeli war machine.

The principle basis for long-term, large-scale financial support is found in the US, among public and private institutions.
In the United States there are essentially four basic sources of financial, ideological and political support for the Israeli rentier economy

1. Wealthy Jewish contributors and powerful disciplined fund-raising organizations.

2. The US government-both Congress and the Presidency.

3. The mass media, particularly the New York Times, Hollywood, and the major television networks.

4. The trade union bosses and the heads of pension funds.
There is substantial overlap in these four institutional configurations. For example, Jewish supporters in the Israeli lobby work closely with Congressional leaders to secure long-term, large-scale US military and economic aid for Israel. Most of the mass media and a few trade unions are influenced by unconditional supporters of the Israeli war machine. Pro-Israel Jews are disproportionately represented in the financial, political, professional, academic, real estate, insurance and mass media sectors of the American economy.

While Jews are a minority
in each and every one of these categories, their disproportionate power and influence stems from the fact that they function collectively: they are organized, active, and concentrate on a single issue-US policy in the Middle East, and specifically in securing Washington's massive, unconditional, and continuing military, political and financial support for Israel.

Operating from their strategic positions in the power structure, they are able to influence policy and censor any dissident commentators or views from circulating freely in the communications and political system.
In the political sphere

pro-Israeli politicians and powerful Jewish organizations have joined forces with (and even animate)29 pro-Israel ultra rightwing mass-based Christian fundamentalist powerful political leaders tied to the military-industrial complex,

such as Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld and Vice President Cheney. Israel's unconditional support of Washington's Cold War and subsequent anti-terrorist military offensive has further strengthened ideological and military ties between US rightwing political leaders, pro-Israeli politicians and the leaders of the leading Jewish organizations.


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Mandela

Perth, Australia

#1309 Aug 10, 2014
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The politics of Washington's new imperialism coincides splendidly with the Sharon-Olmert conquest and destruction of the Occupied Territories.

Wealthy and organized Jewish organizations, compliant Congressional representatives and rightwing fundamentalist organizations are not the only financial supporters of Israel.

US taxpayers have been funding the Israeli war machine with over $3 billion a year of direct assistance for over 35 years (now totaling over $100 billion and continuing to mount).

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Support for Israel from the US government
The data below, compiled by the CRS [Congressional Research Service] Issue Brief in 2004, provide some notion of the extent of U.S. aid and special features.

* Israel has received more than $90 billion in US aid up to 2003, of which $75 billion has been in grants (i.e. nonrepayable), and $15 billion in loans.
* Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel.

* Resettlement assistance for Soviet and Ethiopian immigrants peaked in 1992 at $80 million, but continues to be subsidized at $60 million for 2003,$50 million in 2004 and again in 2005

* In 1990, Israel requested $10 billion in loan guarantees, which would enable Israel to borrow from US commercial establishments, with their loans guaranteed against default by the US government. In 2004, a further $9 billion in loan guarantees was included in FL. 1088-11.
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Israel Bonds

Over its fifty years of existence, the sale of Israel Bonds raised some $22 billion for the State of Israel. Gideon Pratt, CEO of Israel Bonds, claims the bonds have financed over 50% of Israel's development
... Rank and file trade union members might have been surprised to learn that their pension funds had been invested in Israel Bonds with below normal rates of return and higher risk.

Despite the poor investment quality of Israel Bonds, some of the largest US trade unions, employee pension funds, and major multi-national corporations have collectively loaned billions of dollars to the Israeli regime.

In all cases, the decisions to purchase a foreign government's bonds were made by the trade union bosses and corporate fund managers without consulting the membership or stockholders.

" Nathan Zirkin, a financial director of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, when asked if his union would continue to purchase Israel Bonds despite Israel's repression and arrest of Palestinian trade unionists and activists, replied "Absolutely. The Palestinians didn't have a damn thing until Israel came in.

Many of the trade unions, which are purchasers of Israeli bonds, are controlled or influenced by the Mafia.

The Teamsters Union is the biggest purchaser of Israel Bonds; it is also the union which has seen more senior officials indicted for Mafia ties, illicit use of union funds, and massive robbery of membership pension funds. In this case the trade union Mafioso were buying favorable propaganda from the mass media and support from the "respectable" Jewish organizations via the purchase of Israel Bonds.

Union pension funds have also been used by trade union bureaucrats to purchase Israel Bonds. The most notorious case is the former international Ladies Garment Workers Unions (ILGWU), now called UNITE, a union whose workers are 95% Black, Hispanic, and Chinese, most earning at or below the minimum wage.

UNITE's leadership and staff is overwhelming Jewish and earning between $100,000 to $350,000 a year plus expenses.

By channeling over $25 million in pension funds to Israel, the US workers are deprived of access to loans for housing, social services, legal defense, etc.

Clearly the Jewish trade union bosses have a greater affinity for the State of Israel and its oppression of Palestinian workers than they have with their own poorly organized workers, employed under some of the worst working conditions in the US.

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#1310 Aug 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nope.
Ceasefire ended.
Why do you lie, you must really enjoy being imbecile.

Hamas fired rockets 2 hours prior to the end of the ceasefire.

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#1311 Aug 10, 2014
Mandela wrote:
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The politics of Washington's new imperialism coincides splendidly with the Sharon-Olmert conquest and destruction of the Occupied Territories.
Wealthy and organized Jewish organizations, compliant Congressional representatives and rightwing fundamentalist organizations are not the only financial supporters of Israel.
US taxpayers have been funding the Israeli war machine with over $3 billion a year of direct assistance for over 35 years (now totaling over $100 billion and continuing to mount).
p41
Support for Israel from the US government
The data below, compiled by the CRS [Congressional Research Service] Issue Brief in 2004, provide some notion of the extent of U.S. aid and special features.
* Israel has received more than $90 billion in US aid up to 2003, of which $75 billion has been in grants (i.e. nonrepayable), and $15 billion in loans.
* Since 1985, the United States has provided $3 billion in grants annually to Israel.
* Resettlement assistance for Soviet and Ethiopian immigrants peaked in 1992 at $80 million, but continues to be subsidized at $60 million for 2003,$50 million in 2004 and again in 2005
* In 1990, Israel requested $10 billion in loan guarantees, which would enable Israel to borrow from US commercial establishments, with their loans guaranteed against default by the US government. In 2004, a further $9 billion in loan guarantees was included in FL. 1088-11.
p43
Israel Bonds
Over its fifty years of existence, the sale of Israel Bonds raised some $22 billion for the State of Israel. Gideon Pratt, CEO of Israel Bonds, claims the bonds have financed over 50% of Israel's development
... Rank and file trade union members might have been surprised to learn that their pension funds had been invested in Israel Bonds with below normal rates of return and higher risk.
Despite the poor investment quality of Israel Bonds, some of the largest US trade unions, employee pension funds, and major multi-national corporations have collectively loaned billions of dollars to the Israeli regime.
In all cases, the decisions to purchase a foreign government's bonds were made by the trade union bosses and corporate fund managers without consulting the membership or stockholders.
" Nathan Zirkin, a financial director of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, when asked if his union would continue to purchase Israel Bonds despite Israel's repression and arrest of Palestinian trade unionists and activists, replied "Absolutely. The Palestinians didn't have a damn thing until Israel came in.
Many of the trade unions, which are purchasers of Israeli bonds, are controlled or influenced by the Mafia.
The Teamsters Union is the biggest purchaser of Israel Bonds; it is also the union which has seen more senior officials indicted for Mafia ties, illicit use of union funds, and massive robbery of membership pension funds. In this case the trade union Mafioso were buying favorable propaganda from the mass media and support from the "respectable" Jewish organizations via the purchase of Israel Bonds.
Union pension funds have also been used by trade union bureaucrats to purchase Israel Bonds. The most notorious case is the former international Ladies Garment Workers Unions (ILGWU), now called UNITE, a union whose workers are 95% Black, Hispanic, and Chinese, most earning at or below the minimum wage.
UNITE's leadership and staff is overwhelming Jewish and earning between $100,000 to $350,000 a year plus expenses.
Clearly the Jewish trade union bosses have a greater affinity for the State of Israel and its oppression of Palestinian workers than they have with their own poorly organized workers, employed under some of the worst working conditions in the US.
Why are you so jealous of Israel? Arabs/Muslims have received even more from the US taxpayers than Israel.

At least Israel uses it to build a thriving productive, democratic state.

Since: Aug 09

Minneapolis, MN

#1312 Aug 10, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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Why are you so jealous of Israel? Arabs/Muslims have received even more from the US taxpayers than Israel.
At least Israel uses it to build a thriving productive, democratic state.
Nobody gets more American money than the zionist entity gets. And every other country that gets money has strings attached to it. Israel get a free ride with no strings attached.

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#1313 Aug 10, 2014
scirocco wrote:
Hamas fired rockets 2 hours prior to the end of the ceasefire.
Nope.

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#1314 Aug 10, 2014
scirocco wrote:
Arabs/Muslims have received even more from the US taxpayers than Israel.
An obvious lie.

Israel has had its hand out EVERY SINGLE year since 1973.

Every year.

And started getting aid in 1948.

"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $121 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S. military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is generally delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in installments, and Israel (as is also the case with Egypt) is permitted to use cash flow financing for its U.S. arms purchases. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance, Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for rocket and missile defense programs. Israel pursues some of those programs jointly with the United States.

In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year,$30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018. During his March 2013 visit to Israel, President Obama pledged that the United States would continue to provide Israel with multi-year commitments of military aid subject to the approval of Congress. The FY2014 Consolidated Appropriations Act (P.L. 113-76) provides the Presidentís full $3.1 billion request in FMF for Israel. In addition, it provides another $504 million in funding for research, development, and production of Israelís Iron Dome anti-rocket system ($235 million) and of the joint U.S.-Israel missile defense systems Davidís Sling ($149.7 million), the Arrow improvement program (or Arrow II,$44.3 million), and Arrow III ($74.7 million).

For FY2015, the Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to Israel and $10 million in Migration and Refugee Assistance. The Missile Defense Agencyís FY2015 request for joint U.S.- Israeli programs is $96.8 million. The Administration also is requesting $175.9 million for Iron Dome. "

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Congressional Research Service
Mandela

Perth, Australia

#1315 Aug 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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An obvious lie.
Israel has had its hand out EVERY SINGLE year since 1973.
Every year.
And started getting aid in 1948.
"Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $121 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance. Strong congressional support for Israel has resulted in Israel receiving benefits not available to any other countries; for example, Israel can use some U.S. military assistance both for research and development in the United States and for military purchases from Israeli manufacturers. In addition, U.S. assistance earmarked for Israel is generally delivered in the first 30 days of the fiscal year, while most other recipients normally receive aid in installments, and Israel (as is also the case with Egypt) is permitted to use cash flow financing for its U.S. arms purchases. In addition to receiving U.S. State Department-administered foreign assistance, Israel also receives funds from annual defense appropriations bills for rocket and missile defense programs. Israel pursues some of those programs jointly with the United States.
In 2007, the Bush Administration and the Israeli government agreed to a 10-year,$30 billion military aid package for the period from FY2009 to FY2018. During his March 2013 visit to Israel, President Obama pledged that the United States would continue to provide Israel with multi-year commitments of military aid subject to the approval of Congress. The FY2014 Consolidated Appropriations Act (P.L. 113-76) provides the Presidentís full $3.1 billion request in FMF for Israel. In addition, it provides another $504 million in funding for research, development, and production of Israelís Iron Dome anti-rocket system ($235 million) and of the joint U.S.-Israel missile defense systems Davidís Sling ($149.7 million), the Arrow improvement program (or Arrow II,$44.3 million), and Arrow III ($74.7 million).
For FY2015, the Administration is requesting $3.1 billion in FMF to Israel and $10 million in Migration and Refugee Assistance. The Missile Defense Agencyís FY2015 request for joint U.S.- Israeli programs is $96.8 million. The Administration also is requesting $175.9 million for Iron Dome. "
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Zionist israel is a common thief when it comes to sucking in US taxpayer dollars

It operates like a giant vacumm cleaner sucking up dollars faster than they are printed
While many average americans are unemployed, skint and homeless

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Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#1316 Aug 10, 2014
Abdurratln wrote:
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Fool you cannot buy enough cokes to make up for the ones we will not buy. Besides, it is not coke. We are collecting the bar codes on everything that Israel produces. We will destroy the entire economy, not just coke sales.
so you should stop using your computer and most of your technology as there is usually either an Israeli invention or an invention by a company with offices in Israel.

Basically you like most in the BDS are hypocrites as you likely use Israeli tech on a daily basis even right now with your typing.

Wonder if you would use Israeli tech if you were dying and that was the only cure?
Basically Israel has given more to the world than all Muslim and Arab countries put together. I can boycott Arabs and Muslim nations without even boycotting any products I buy. If you want to boycott Israel and those working with it you would have to stop using a lot of what you do.
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#1317 Aug 10, 2014
I can read wrote:
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Back in the real world I will once again point out the basic fact you refuse to recognise and always pretend I never posted:
There is only ever one way to defeat terrorism. You seperate the terrorists from their recruitment pool.
Killing terrorists or capturing terrorists is only effective if you do it in a way which doesn't expand recruitment.
If you kill one terrorist but do it in a way that means two more people sign up, you've made a bad mistake.
That's a mistake Israel seems to be making deliberately.
The fact is that someone who vows revenge at any cost will be more popular than someone who pushes for peace at any cost. That sort of talk will win votes from a people oppressed by terrorism.
As I've said before and as you've ignored before, there's only one way to win. Seperate the terrorists from the recruitment pool.
There are two ways you can do that:
A) Use hearts and minds techniques to show to the possible recruits from the other side that you are actually the good guys in all this .
B) Wipe out the recruitment pool by just killing them. Full on genocide.
Israel has decided on option C:
C) Don't even bother pushing for peace. Just try to contain the problem. If you can keep bulldozing your enemies back into the stone age every 5 years, they'll never actually be a real threat.
you don't live in the real world. You live in a country which massacres thousands of civilians but attacks Israel, a country which always itself to be the center of terrorism in Europe but bans Zionists or Jews from entering, a country which appeases evil and expects it to go away.

The best option would have been from day one to target the whole Hamas leadership and destroy all missile facilities. Also to disarm them with anything more than light arms. Once this is done the strip should be openly and turned into a beach resort.

The Arabs on the land were killing Jews long before Israels existence or Hamas creation.
It is just a regional norm but you blame the Jews it seems.

British=Ignorant & Arrogant.
I hope you suffer as those in Israel have the past 10 years. Maybe it would wake you up to the "real world" but unlikely.

They are not back in the stone age and most of Gaza was untouched. Lie much?

67% of Palestinians voted Hamas even with their openly genocidal and antisemitic documentation, words and actions. Even higher % come from Gaza.
Zioni

Kfar Saba, Israel

#1318 Aug 10, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
I guess you'll have to move the topic back to Israel 's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians...
Such as building even more Israelis settlement in violation with Oslo accords and agreements not to expand settles with the US.
Funny how Israelis has no problems breaking agreements with the US but still cashing our checks and asking for MORE money on top of the billions they are already getting.
Do you ever saying anything true?

Firstly you lie about the casualty figures which even the Times and Guardian have spoken of that according to the casualty figures it is impossible that Israel was targeting women and children.
47% of the dead are males of fighting age and even though over 70% of Gazans are women and children they only number 34% of the casualties. But don't let facts get in the way of your hatred.

Under the Oslo Accord building towns in West Bank is perfectly legal. YOU ARE LYING AGAIN.

It is the US who broke agreements with Israel about supporting Palestinians incitement and terrorism. Also with Obama ignoring the Bush Letter promises to Sharon when he evacuated Gaza and N.West Bank. So nice try but you are lying again and the facts actually dispute your claims and even turn it on its head.

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#1319 Aug 10, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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so you should stop using your computer and most of your technology as there is usually either an Israeli invention or an invention by a company with offices in Israel..
Israel leads the world in industrial espionage.

And I for one tire of hasbarats insisting Israel changed the course of history by inventing the 387 math co processor.

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#1320 Aug 10, 2014
Zioni wrote:
You live in a country which massacres thousands of civilians
He lives in Israel, then.

Israel of course does not restrict itself to killing thousands of unarmed civilians in Gaza and the West Bank.

Look at Sabra/Shatilla...

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#1321 Aug 10, 2014
Zioni wrote:
Firstly you lie about the casualty figures which even the Times and Guardian have spoken of that according to the casualty figures it is impossible that Israel was targeting women and children.
They target women and children and have no regard whatsoever for civilians and targets the UN puts off limits.

Not only do the target them, they use the coordinates the UN gives them.

The evidence would be the casualties of civilians every time they enter another civilian area- Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank... 70 to 80 percent.

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#1322 Aug 10, 2014
Zioni wrote:
47% of the dead are males of fighting age
Penis attached... must be Hamas...

http://tinyurl.com/mmbvabv

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#1323 Aug 10, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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Under the Oslo Accord building towns in West Bank is perfectly legal.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/wes...

Settlers from West Bank outposts have taken control of land in Area B and are thus in breach of the 1995 Oslo agreement between Israel and the Palestinians, says Dror Etkes, an anti-settlement activist. Area B was defined in the Oslo Accords as land under Palestinian civil control and Israeli military control.

According to Etkes, who has monitored the settlements for years, the takeover of land in Area B is a combination of unbridled thievery by settlers and impotence on the part of the Israeli authorities. He says the Israeli side has turned the West Bank into an area where the strongest dominates.
James

United States

#1324 Aug 10, 2014
So what your saying is that hamas can use civilian locations to fire rockets into civilian populated areas of israel and israel just needs to sit back and let the rockets fly?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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They target women and children and have no regard whatsoever for civilians and targets the UN puts off limits.
Not only do the target them, they use the coordinates the UN gives them.
The evidence would be the casualties of civilians every time they enter another civilian area- Lebanon, Gaza, West Bank... 70 to 80 percent.

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