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UN rights expert accuses Israel of 'ethnic cleansing' in treatment of Palestinians

There are 2166 comments on the Bellingham Herald story from Mar 21, 2014, titled UN rights expert accuses Israel of 'ethnic cleansing' in treatment of Palestinians. In it, Bellingham Herald reports that:

He spoke against a backdrop of deadlocked peace talks and accelerating Israeli settlement expansion in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem which Palestinians say is dimming their hope of establishing a viable state on contiguous territory.

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#78 Mar 31, 2014
Zioni wrote:
But when it comes to Jews you preach.
Jews?

You aren't Jews, you are Israelis.

Now you may insist the way you have set up your laws that most of your citizens are Jews- indeed, who would want to be a citizen of Israel and if not Jewish, a second or third class citizen- but there is a reason why most Jews in the US are happy to live here without a thought of going to live in Israel, even when you bribe them to go.
Zioni

Israel

#79 Mar 31, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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This is a lie.
Interesting you seem unable to EVER elaborate instead making general statements.

Israel gave the US a Russian Plane, Tank, and Missile Defense System during the Cold War allowing them to understand and counteract Russian tech.

The US only helps others for its own interests. Until the 1960's when Israel became a regional power they did nothing. It was the US who watched Egypt block Suez standing against Israel.

Israel bombed Iraq reactor so that when US invaded they didn't have nukes to worry about. Same with Syria. Imagine if Israel hadn't bombed their facilities a number of years ago.

Israel threatened to attack Syria on request by America when Syria invaded Jordan.

Israel has given intel worth in the $B according to former top US officials.

If the liberty was as simple as you claim the US would not have hidden the truth. It more likely that either it was a false flag for the US to jump into the war, or the US itself was spying on Israel and passing on the info to the Arabs. The US even had a plan to invade Israel if they won too much land in the war.

Israel was like a Aircraft carrier for the US in the region watching out for its interests.

America has a BIG say in most of Israels policies due to this funding.

The US like most countries works in its own interests. The weird thing is why you are funding regimes which are real apartheids, work against US interests....

This is just scratching the surface.
Zioni

Israel

#80 Mar 31, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Jews?
You aren't Jews, you are Israelis.
Now you may insist the way you have set up your laws that most of your citizens are Jews- indeed, who would want to be a citizen of Israel and if not Jewish, a second or third class citizen- but there is a reason why most Jews in the US are happy to live here without a thought of going to live in Israel, even when you bribe them to go.
I am not Israeli and was born Jewish. So you are wrong again.

You clearly have not read Israels laws and again are just blabbering BS.

Palestinians from E.Jerusalem would become Israeli citizens and not Palestinian citizens. The Arabs of Israel also want to stay as Israeli citizens. Your claim of 2nd-3rd class is also BS. Some areas Arabs have more rights and other areas Arabs have got left municipality support often due to their hostility.

Noone comes to Israel for money, on the contrary you can be a millionaire when you arrive and almost broke years later. It is a common joke amongst the Anglo community here.

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#81 Mar 31, 2014
Zioni wrote:
Israel gave the US a Russian Plane
Israel gave the Russians the biggest secret we had during the Cold War.

And they are all too happy to continue to sell them and the Chinese our secrets today.

Like the Chinese F15.

And the Israelis did not GIVE the US the jet (and that was over fifty years ago, even before they attacked the US Liberty in international waters): they used the "loan" of the MIG to trade for F-4 Phantoms.

The Israelis still have their hand out.

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#82 Mar 31, 2014
Zioni wrote:
Noone comes to Israel for money
If you are a black, they pay you to leave.

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#83 Mar 31, 2014
Zioni wrote:
America has a BIG say in most of Israels policies due to this funding.
Right.

That is why Israelis are no longer trying to steal land in the West Bank.
Zioni

Israel

#84 Mar 31, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If you are a black, they pay you to leave.
So you are a racist also.

No if you are an illegal immigrant than you may get paid to leave.

There are plenty of blacks in Israel.

Didn't Israel send aeroplanes to pick up 10,000's of African Israelites?
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#85 Apr 1, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Land grab.
Israelis have never been happy with the land that they were given, even though most Israelis had no connections to the land before 1948, and very few had connections before 1930.
Bullcrap, try not to attack Israel and the land is yours wherever you are. Attack and pay for the consecvances, its easy as ABC except to arab muslims and their idiotic supporters.

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#87 Apr 1, 2014
Zioni wrote:
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Interesting you seem unable to EVER elaborate instead making general statements.
You say something profoundly stupid and I am supposed to elaborate on it?

How do the dollars the US takes from MY TAXES given to Israel to spend on tanks they use to maintain occupation of land they stole in a war they start benefit me?

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

If you think it is so generous- for Israel to take taxes from ME and other taxpayers in the USA, why has Israel returned this generosity to their own citizens and start raising taxes to send to the USA?
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#89 Apr 1, 2014
waleed sadat wrote:
CHARLOTTE, N.C., March 21, 2014 – Coverage of the persecution of Christians in predominantly Muslim countries is an ongoing problem that remains under-reported in the western media. The truth of this persecution is damaging to the media’s narrative on the Middle East.
Consider the Obama Administration’s narrative: Israel is intransigent and the villain in its dealings with the underdog Palestinians.
A recent article in The Torch, which was reprinted in a blog by Raymond Ibrahim, takes a closer look at why the American press does not cover Christian persecution in the Middle East. The grim picture it presents explains much about media bias and, indirectly, the Obama administration’s mishandling of the Palestinian/Israel peace process under Secretary of State John Kerry
The article calls it the “greatest human rights tragedy of our times,” beginning with a couple of dramatic facts.“Reliable estimates indicate that anywhere from 100-200 million Christians are persecuted every year…approximately 85% of this persecution occurs in Muslim majority nations. In 1900, 20% of the Middle East was Christian. Today, less than 2% is.”
“Far from helping these Christian victims, U.S. policies are actually exacerbating their sufferings. Whether in Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, or Syria, and under the guise of the U.S.-supported ‘Arab Spring,’ things have gotten dramatically worse for Christians.”
The Torch piece points out that since Israel is stronger than its Muslim adversary, the media gives the Palestinians a “pass” as the underdog in the dispute. The press fails to report that victimization is standard operating procedure in the Muslim world. It is a primary tactic to win global sympathy. Israel rejects that concept because they know better.
The counter argument is simple:“If radical Muslims get a free pass when their violence is directed against those stronger than them, how does one rationalize away their violence when it is directed against those weaker than them—in this case, millions of indigenous Christians?”
The media cannot have it both ways.
The article concludes,“There, is of course, a very important reason why the mainstream media ignores radical Muslim persecution of Christians: if the full magnitude of this phenomenon [were] ever known, many cornerstones of the mainstream media — most prominent among them, that Israel is oppressive to Palestinians — would immediately crumble.
Read more at http://www.commdiginews.com/world-news/why-is...
Thanks 100% correct, screw the chicken shit media.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#90 Apr 1, 2014
Gray wrote:
EDUCATING A HASBARAT
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The only “downward spiral” is the number* of ignorant racists duped by a proven Zionist Dominated Media** into supporting Israel’s proven Genocidal Agenda.
1. Have you ever been to the Levant
2. Have you relied on Independent or International Media for your information?
- I didn’t think so
*“Israel one of world’s most unpopular countries and it’s getting worse: BBC survey”
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abuni...
“Israel is not only one of the world’s most negatively viewed countries, but its reputation is deteriorating, according to the BBC World Service’s latest global survey.”
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**“Zionists Control 97% Of World's Media!”
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2009/...
Read, Wake Up from your low brow bigotry and learn your subject matter before you make a fool of yourself
Oh the little vermin is quoting nazislamist bullshit. Bravo retard bravo.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#91 Apr 1, 2014
Gray wrote:
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Every one of your long winded & bigoted Spam-Trums expressing your hate for a religion & culture about which you know nothing and have never seen is the same.
If you were honest in your distain for Muslims, you wouldn’t need to use a phony Muslim “Username”
We get it!........You hate Muslims....
...... but they are no more Evil than any other Religion,
“Israeli Abuse of and Attacks on Christians in the Holy Land | Beyond ...”
robertlindsay.wordpress.com/.../israeli-abuse... ;
EXCERPT: "...in Israel abuse of and attacks against Christians is nearly a daily affair in many places, especially ...
As you can see below, abuse of Christians in Israel, especially in Jerusalem, is a daily affair.
In fact, when you chalk up the incidents and multiply them by 44 times to account for population differences, there are vastly more attacks on Christians in Israel than there are anti-Semitic attacks against Jews in the US, by an order of magnitude or more.
Israel has never been a very friendly place for Christians, but in recent years with the rise of Orthodox hostility and Price Tag attacks, things have gotten much worse.CONTINUED
“The War Against American Christians Part II: Zionization of Christians”
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voices.ph...
EXCERPT “The sad reality that naïve American Christians have not yet comprehend, is that Judaism, not Islam, is the real enemy of Christianity as well as all non-Jews.
Have they studied the Qur’an, the Islamic holy book, before hating and burning it, American Christians would have discovered that Islam is closer to Christianity.
Islam’s message of brotherhood, love and peace is similar to Jesus’ teachings.” CONTINUED
He quotes murderus facts about your nazislamist friends killing Christians but as a nazi piece of shit what do you care about your own religion getting massacred , lieing nazi bastard.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#93 Apr 1, 2014
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
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Jews aren't murdering Christians worldwide. Muslims are.
Jews aren't murdering Muslims, nor committing terrorism against Muslim. Only Muslims continue the international slaughter.
All of the wars between Israel and their Arab neighbors have been started by the Muslims. The claims of a Palestinian people, or Palestinian land anywhere near Israel are absolutely false. The surrounding and very rich Arab States could have relieved the plight of ALL the people they placed there, but they've used those people as pawns in an insane war against people because of jealousy.
Exactly, great insight, thanks. Warning, the nazislamist retards wont believe a word but who gives??????
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#95 Apr 1, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Zionist is a NAZI in a different color uniform.
Complete with Star of David armband.
no such thing but in your nazi retarded head, vermin.
Zioni

Israel

#97 Apr 1, 2014
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You say something profoundly stupid and I am supposed to elaborate on it?
How do the dollars the US takes from MY TAXES given to Israel to spend on tanks they use to maintain occupation of land they stole in a war they start benefit me?
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
If you think it is so generous- for Israel to take taxes from ME and other taxpayers in the USA, why has Israel returned this generosity to their own citizens and start raising taxes to send to the USA?
You don't elaborate on anything it seems just making general statements with powerwords; nothing to do with me or what i said.

You clearly can't think further than the end of your nose. It is not about you but US interests. Not sure the reference to tanks? Israel makes its own tanks.

SO you have no issue with the B$ going to states hostile to the US?
Gray

Richmond, VA

#98 Apr 1, 2014
"SHOTGUN" LIES
Zioni wrote:
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Israel has a legal right to the WB, Gaza & Golan.
EDITED FOR SPACE (AND TRUTH)
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A popular Hasbara tactic is to hurl a list of undocumented lies at the reader with the hope that he/she will believe at least one

THEN

...To call everyone who debunks his lies a "Hater", "Israel Basher" etc

To debunk the paid, full time, scripted and State supported "Israel Advocate's" lies with documented facts is easy but time consuming; opponents of Israel's proven Genocidal Regime are neither paid, Stats supported, scripted nor Full Time so it is only practical to debunk one "Israel Advocate" / Hasbarat's lies at a time.

Let's debunk:

"Israel has a legal right to the WB, Gaza & Golan."

UN Panel: Israeli Settlements Are Illegal
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/un-p...

EXCERPT "In its report to the 47-nation council, a panel of investigators said Israel is violating international humanitarian law under the Fourth Geneva Convention, one of the treaties that establish the ground rules for what is considered humane during wartime." CONTINUED

In fact, Israel is not even a State as the UN cannot create states:

“The UN did NOT create Israel”
http://alisonweir.org/journal/2013/9/18/the-u...

EXCERPT " Israeli propagandists, however, perpetrated the myth that the UN created Israel, and this interpretation was then been repeated by numerous others. Please see an article on this, "New States Are Not Created in the UN". Below is an excerpt:

"...was it true that Israel owed its very existence to the U.N., as it became popularly perceived years later?...This same line of argument was repeated... by an Israeli analyst in the opinion section of the New York Times, who wrote that the vote on Nov. 29 was the “legal basis for the establishment of the State of Israel.”

Leading international legal scholars have vociferously rejected this claim. The noted Australian legal scholar Professor Julius Stone wrote in 1980 that Israel “does not derive its legal existence from the Partition Plan.”

Even Cambridge University’s Professor James Crawford... concluded in his monumental book on the creation of states in international law that Israel was not created on the basis of Resolution 181..."CONTINUED

So, 15 minutes of research can debunk ANY of the "Hasbarat's" (Israel Advocates) scripted lies.

It's easy and it's fun....go ahead, give it a try

Now, come "Zioni's" usual insulting, Hate screeds...The "White Flag" of the debunked Hasbarat
Gray

Richmond, VA

#100 Apr 1, 2014
This is just a FRACTION of what Zionist Parasites cost LOYAL Americans in money, blood and resources:

“Estes: U.S. aid to Israel has surpassed trillion-plus dollars since 1973”
http://staugustine.com/opinions/2010-07-24/us...

“The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:$3 Trillion”
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/june2003/030602...

“America Hijacked! Billions go to Israel and other nations abroad while we suffer at home”
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/Natio...

“Israel to ask U.S. for $20 billion extra in military aid because of Middle East turmoil”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13641...

How come Israel :

- extorts more American blood and money than any other country in the WORLD
(Actually, over 10 billion per year; some “hidden” aid is explaIned below

- can attack US ships (USS Liberty) and massacre its crew (34 of my fellow American GIs deliberately murdered. It was no "Mistake"; the cowardly bastards even strafed the life boats

- has unlimited (or the most) access to American spy satellite Intel.

- has billions of dollars worth of oil (US Strategic Oil Reserve stored, maintained & in America paid for by Americans FOR ISRAEL'S USE ONLY; Americans CAN'T TOUCH IT

- Gets the US to veto or submit ANYTHING Israel wants Vetoed in the U.N.

- Gets the U.S. to bankroll Top Secret, "Joint" Military Projects (Lavi Fighter, for example) refuse to pass on trial data, steals the whole project and sells it to China

- Has American G.I.s stationed in Israel manning a Top Secret missile defense shield. The greatest American concern is Israel stealing and selling the technology to ANYBODY (even China, again)

- Makes the U.S forgive EVERY "Loan" while EVERY OTHER country has to pay Loans back

-How many Muslim "dual" citizens occupy the highest levels of U.S. government.( Chertoff is one of countless Israel Citizens deciding U.S. Policy

-See this for a few more
http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

- Name ONE “dual” citizen from ANY Muslim Country in U.S. Government

- Name ONE Muslim "dual citizen; hint...they aren't allowed; only Israelis

- Name ONE Islamic lobby that can Influence American government to go to war on its behalf While Howard Kohr said “Quietly lobbying congress to approve the use of force in the Iraq war was one of AIPAC’s successes over the past year”

- How many Islamic Lobby Spokesmen are chief anchor to the major News network
(Wolf Blitzer works as spokesman for AIPAC AND is Chief Anchor on CNN

- EVER OTHER recipient of U.S. aid is subject to conditions for use; EXCEPT ISRAEL who is supposed to spend some on Weapons Only available to Israel (to copy and sell)

- EVERY OTHER recipient of US Military Aid must adhere Internationally Recognized Legal use; EXCEPT ISRAEL who commits countless War Crimes with U>S. Weaponry but keeps getting more anyway.

- If an Islamic country attacks a neighboring state, the U.S.(according to Israeli instructions) destroys it( Iraq vs Kuwait)

- If Israel attacks a neighboring State; the US REWARDS IT ( i.e. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq)

AND, Best of all: American wages/ taxes Pay Israel’s Foreign Ministry to subsidize, maintain, train, pay, their International HASBARA PROPAGANDA INDUSTRY to lie to us (Americans) about their War Crimes and how much of our money they REALLY get
Zioni

Israel

#105 Apr 1, 2014
Gray wrote:
A popular Hasbara tactic is to hurl a list of undocumented lies at the reader with the hope that he/she will believe at least one
THEN
...To call everyone who debunks his lies a "Hater", "Israel Basher" etc....
Let's debunk:......Australian legal scholar Professor Julius Stone wrote in 1980 that Israel “does not derive its .legal existence from the Partition Plan.”....
As it is clear to Grey we have had this conversation before and I have given detailed explanation of my view with documentation. This is a tactic of the Israel haters.

Interestingly enough no-one here has even given any legal document giving the Palestinians as a nation the right to the land. They spend their whole time attacking Israels legal rights as they are seemingly unable to prove Pal legal rights.

As I have made clear I don't see everyone as haters just you and a couple of others. My own brother is hostile towards Israel as are some of my friends. As long as they stick to the facts i have to accept their opinions. You however spread lies and call for the destruction of Israel and ethnic cleansing of the Jews.

I have never claimed the UN created Israel but the LoN created the basis for the creation of the Jewish state. Israel fought for its life to create the state.

Firstly you speak of the UN |Human Rights Council not the UN. There is no legal basis to anything they do.
http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3...
Israel is the only country listed on the Council’s permanent agenda (Item 7). Moreover, Israel is the only country subjected to an investigatory mandate that examines the actions of only one side, presumes those actions to be violations, and which is not subject to regular review.

let see who is on this so called HR council. some of them.
Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, China, Ivory Coast, Cuba, Indonesia, Kuwait, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, UAE,
http://www.ohchr.org/EN/HRBodies/HRC/Pages/Cu...

Just seeing some of the names of the countries on the council as some of the biggest Human Rights abusers in the world should be enough to take away any credibility.
This is the same council which was disbanded by the UN for an obsession with Israel while ignoring atrocities throughout the world.

Not sure how any can claim that this council is objective in any sense of the word and they are and opinion council.

You clearly don't even read what you post nor read what i post.

You have not posted any research just a bunch of BS. Lets take one of the names you mentioned. Julius Stone and I quote
Stone's view is that Israeli settlements in the West Bank are legal under international law, and do not constitute a violation of the Fourth Geneva Convention (Article 49(6)). He stated:
"Irony would...be pushed to the absurdity of claiming that Article 49(6), designed to prevent repetition of Nazi-type genocidal policies of rendering Nazi metropolitan territories judenrein, has now come to mean that...the West Bank...must be made judenrein and must be so maintained, if necessary by the use of force by the government of Israel against its own inhabitants. Common sense as well as correct historical and functional context excludes so tyrannical a reading of Article 49(6.)"[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Stone#Inf...

SO AS EVERYONE CAN SEE EVEN JULIUS STONE WHO GRAY TRIES TO USE TO ATTACK ISRAEL, CONSIDERS JEWISH TOWNS IN THE WEST BANK PERFECTLY LEGAL.

If you would read James Crawfords writings you would also see that Gray is taking his words out of context and making up his own assumptions just as the writer in the opinion piece he posted did.

Gray you know I have already answered you on this but seemingly as you have no real rebuttal giving the Palestinians a legal right to the land you choose to try to discredit Israels rights.
Israel was created based on the LoN Mandate which article 80 of the UN Charter reaffirms.

you should add debunked to the words you clearly don't know the meaning of.
Zioni

Israel

#108 Apr 1, 2014
charles in charge wrote:
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You falsely and slanderously claimed America funded al-Qai'da. That makes you a LIAR.
Nothing else you post can therefore be taken seriously, Zionist.
Get it now?
America created Al-Qaida, America fought alongside Al-Qaida to bring down Kadaffi, and has been involved in arming them in Syria supposedly. Apparently in Afghanistan they allow Al-Qaida affiliates to take control of various projects.

Get what? you have changed the subject.
Zioni

Israel

#111 Apr 1, 2014
charles in charge wrote:
<quoted text>
The land isn't YOURS, that's the point, Zionist. Those "attacking" you are the original owners, and that's why you're in desperate denial.
You claim ownership when under Ottoman Rule most of the land was not available for ownership. and you call me a liar.

I suppose you would also deny that America has massacred 100 times the number of Palestinians Israel has killed.
America invades countries at a whim and sees the skies anywhere as their playground.

So don't preach morality to me.

Mayebe read the AMERICAN-ANGLO CONVENTION 1924 where congress, senate and president signed off on the Mandate for Palestine to create a Jewish state.

I don't need to deny they admit it themselves.
http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/06/11/arab...
a number of known quotes from various Arab leaders admitting that the Palestinians nation was created lately and for the aim of destroying Israel not to create a state.

SO GO AHEAD GIVE ANY EVIDENCE THAT MORE THAN A FRACTION OF THE LAND WAS OWNED BY ARABS.

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