Are these " NO s " the real Democrat platform values ?
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“Change in 2012”
Since: Aug 12
#1 Sep 11, 2012
Are these " NO s " the real Democrat platform values ?
#2 Sep 11, 2012
big ole crybaby
#3 Sep 12, 2012
Russian ships displayed at DNC tribute to vets
By Sam Fellman - Staff writer
Posted: Tuesday Sep 11, 2012 17:16:10 EDT
Retired Adm. John Nathman speaks on stage with military veterans during the final day of the Democratic National Convention on Sept. 6 in Charlotte, N.C. Experts say the ships in the background are Russian.
On the last night of the Democratic National Convention, a retired Navy four-star took the stage to pay tribute to veterans. Behind him, on a giant screen, the image of four hulking warships reinforced his patriotic message.
But there was a big mistake in the stirring backdrop: those are Russian warships.
While retired Adm. John Nathman, a former commander of Fleet Forces Command, honored vets as Americas best, the ships from the Russian Federation Navy were arrayed like sentinels on the big screen above.
These were the very Soviet-era combatants that Nathman and Cold Warriors like him had once squared off against.
The ships are definitely Russian, said noted naval author Norman Polmar after reviewing hi-resolution photos from the event.Theres no question of that in my mind.
DNC apologizes for use of Russian ships
Naval experts concluded the background was a photo composite of Russian ships that were overflown by what appear to be U.S. trainer jets. It remains unclear how or why the Democratic Party used whats believed to be images of the Russian Black Sea Fleet at their convention.
A spokesman for the Democratic National Convention Committee was not able to immediately comment Tuesday, saying he had to track down personnel to find out what had happened.
The veteran who spotted the error and notified Navy Times said he was immediately taken aback.
I was kind of in shock, said Rob Barker, 38, a former electronics warfare technician who left the Navy in 2006. Having learned to visually identify foreign ships by their radars, Barker recognized the closest ship as the Kara-class cruiser Kerch.
An immediate apology [from the committee] would be very nice, Barker said.Maybe acknowledge the fact that yes, they screwed up.
The background featured in the carefully choreographed hour leading up to the presidents Sept. 6 speech accepting the Democratic Partys nomination showed four ships with radar designs not used in the U.S. fleet.
For example, the ship in the foreground, on the far right, has a square radar antenna at the top of its masthead. That is the MR-700 Podberezovik 3-D early warning radar, commonly identified as Flat Screen for its appearance, a three-dimensional early warning radar mounted on the Kerch, said Eric Wertheim, editor of Combat Fleets of the World.
Similarly, the third ship has a MR-310 Head Net air search radar, shaped like two off-set bananas, at its masthead and is mostly likely the guided missile destroyer Smetlivyy. The first two ships seem to be Krivak-class frigates, but its hard to discern from the silhouette, experts said.
But the fact they are Russian ships is not in doubt. In addition to the ships radar arrays and hulls, which are dissimilar from U.S. warships, the photo features one more give-away: a large white flag with a blue X at the ships sterns.
Polmar, who authored The Naval Institute Guide to the Soviet Navy, recognized the blue X-mark:The X is the Cross of St. Andrews, which is a Russian Navy symbol, Polmar said.(An anchored U.S. warship, by contrast, flies the American flag on its stern.)
First they Vote "NO" to God 3 times , then use RUSSIAN warships as a backdrop during Kerry's speech of lies , guess they really fit the bill.
The Democratic party has really got their chit together.....NOT !
November soon !
“Change in 2012”
Since: Aug 12
#4 Sep 13, 2012
#5 Sep 17, 2012
Fighter jets in Democratic conventions military montage were Turkish, not American
The Democratic Partys national convention in Charlotte, N.C., may have doubled down on insulting the U.S. military community.
The Democratic National Committee has already apologized for using a photo of four Soviet-era Russian warships in a giant stage backdrop intended to illustrate the partys support for military personnel and veterans.
That huge image, visible in the Time Warner Cable Arena during speeches by Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and retired Admiral John B. Nathman, also depicted a synchronized formation of jet aircraft that convention-goers assumed were American fighter planes.
But the F-5 fighter planes in the photo are part of the air force of Turkey, a nation whose government is now jailing journalists and establishing Islam as a state religion.
Brad Woodhouse, a spokesman for the Democratic National Committee, did not respond when the The Daily Caller asked why the convention planners displayed Turkish-flown aircraft alongside Russian warships while seeking support from the American military community.
On Sept. 12, Democrats apologized for using the picture of Soviet-era, Russian-operated ships after the slip up was first reported by the Navy Times. The Navy Times also received a tip that the planes depicted may have been from the Turkish Air Force.(NAVAL EXPERT: Ships shown during Democratic convention tribute to veterans were Russian)
At least three of the ships in the image were designed and built by the Soviet totalitarian state that killed 20 million of its own citizens. Amid steady pressure from the U.S. military, the Soviet Union collapsed in 1989, marking its defeat in the four-decade Cold War. One of the warships may now be part of the Ukrainian Navy.
The image first appeared in the closing minutes of an address by Sen. Kerry.
Martin Rosenkranz, a military aircraft expert and editor-in-chief of a military aviation journal in Austria, revealed the fighter jets origin to The Daily Caller.
The aircraft in this image displayed are not U.S.[operated] aircraft, he told TheDC.
The jets are most likely from the Turkish air force [because] the formation and the type (F-5) flown is very typical of the seven-ship formation flown by the Turkish Air Force Display Team known as the Turkish Stars, said Rosenkranz.
There is no other display team worldwide that uses a similar seven-aircraft formation.
Rosenkranzs argument is bolstered by two other factors.
The aircraft shown at the Democrats convention are old F-5 aircraft. They were were designed in the United States and sold to many countries, including Turkey whose display team uses that same model.
Also, the planes depicted in the Democrats Sept. 6 photo montage display an unusual red and white striped pattern painted on the underside of their fuselages most visible on the lowest and best-lit of the F-5s in the image.
During a June 2012 airshow in Norway, seven of the Turkish Stars F-5s flew in formation above a cheering crowd. They all featured that same striped paint job, which can be seen 45 seconds into an amateur video available online.
The latest Charlotte faux pas comes as Obama has called for help from Turkeys prime minister, Recep Erdogan, to stem widespread Islamist riots against U.S. facilities and diplomatic personnel.
Obama and Islamist leaders agree the riots were spurred in part by an anti-Islamic video produced in California, although many regional experts say upsurge was caused by Islamist groups competing for support from anti-American voters.
After blaming the video, the White House asked YouTube on Sept. 14 to consider removing the footage from its Web servers. That same night, just after midnight Pacific time, California police drove the films producer to an interview with federal law enforcement authorities to discuss a possible parole violation.
We must remember whose convention this was .
DEMOCRAT - Boo x 3
#6 Sep 17, 2012
Already scrambling to steady a struggling campaign, Republican Mitt Romney confronted a new headache Monday after a video surfaced showing him telling wealthy donors that almost half of all Americans "believe they are victims" entitled to extensive government support. He added that as a candidate for the White House, "my job is not to worry about those people."
That means he is not worried about too many people in the Abingdon-Bristol area, about all that live here is sure not rich, so you want to support the rich and make them even richer?? Vote Republicunt.
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