Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as ...

Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

There are 71288 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 18, 2009, titled Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72686 Nov 13, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
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"Sworn to secrecy" and getting "permission" to testify and "dollars involved" stand in the way of getting anywhere with this. Kiss the yellow hand.
You can't sue China. I like the way they went "all in" helping their neighbors the Filipinos. The Chinese sent $100,000. Get that? Over a billion people and they send $0.0001 p/p. Touching.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72687 Nov 13, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>You can't sue China. I like the way they went "all in" helping their neighbors the Filipinos. The Chinese sent $100,000. Get that? Over a billion people and they send $0.0001 p/p. Touching.
Well, you have an Israeli Lawyer and a Israeli witness. No Christians. I guess it all comes down to dollars for the victims and greed on those in power to let that Jew boy loose to do his damage. But, there are DOLLARS involved for the future. Fcuk the past. Money trumps over honesty, once again. It's enough to make one puke. Makes you wonder what else is for sale behind those closed doors.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72688 Nov 13, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you have an Israeli Lawyer and a Israeli witness. No Christians. I guess it all comes down to dollars for the victims and greed on those in power to let that Jew boy loose to do his damage. But, there are DOLLARS involved for the future. Fcuk the past. Money trumps over honesty, once again. It's enough to make one puke. Makes you wonder what else is for sale behind those closed doors.
Unwinnable...is that a word? Where do you sue them, Israel? Good luck getting it on a Chinese docket. I'd love to set the precedent of holding promoters of terrorism accountable but who will be named as claimant? Who will be the defendant?

Laundry has a way of getting hung out in public...some day the Chinese will wear this shame.
Ratloder

Naugatuck, CT

#72689 Nov 13, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Unwinnable...is that a word? Where do you sue them, Israel? Good luck getting it on a Chinese docket. I'd love to set the precedent of holding promoters of terrorism accountable but who will be named as claimant? Who will be the defendant?
Laundry has a way of getting hung out in public...some day the Chinese will wear this shame.
Giving up to the yellow hand? First, you get the judgement. Second, you get the response. Third you go public with the response. For a country striving to get on the map as a super power, and newly appointed member to the UN Commission on Human Rights, laughable as it is, it's a start. Hey, Germany is paying reparations for the Holocaust victims. In spite of the latest scandal. They ain't whining. Who'd a thought? I'm more concerned with the lack of balls from the Israeli leader having a tough time to make up his mind to let the witness testify, because of the DOLLARS. Kind of re-enforces the stereotype of Jews. It's all about the DOLLARS.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72690 Nov 13, 2013
Ratloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Giving up to the yellow hand? First, you get the judgement. Second, you get the response. Third you go public with the response. For a country striving to get on the map as a super power, and newly appointed member to the UN Commission on Human Rights, laughable as it is, it's a start. Hey, Germany is paying reparations for the Holocaust victims. In spite of the latest scandal. They ain't whining. Who'd a thought? I'm more concerned with the lack of balls from the Israeli leader having a tough time to make up his mind to let the witness testify, because of the DOLLARS. Kind of re-enforces the stereotype of Jews. It's all about the DOLLARS.
Be gone from here, I say. Go back to those Jew hating threads. We love Israel here. But, I concur with your observation. Are you Jewish? Are you a new friend? Shalom.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72691 Nov 13, 2013
Ratloder wrote:
<quoted text>
Giving up to the yellow hand? First, you get the judgement. Second, you get the response. Third you go public with the response. For a country striving to get on the map as a super power, and newly appointed member to the UN Commission on Human Rights, laughable as it is, it's a start. Hey, Germany is paying reparations for the Holocaust victims. In spite of the latest scandal. They ain't whining. Who'd a thought? I'm more concerned with the lack of balls from the Israeli leader having a tough time to make up his mind to let the witness testify, because of the DOLLARS. Kind of re-enforces the stereotype of Jews. It's all about the DOLLARS.
So, your schizo other self thinks Israel needs to chase ambulances, huh? If I thought there was a case to be made I'd be all over it. I don't, therefore I'm not.

Know why Germany has paid reparations? Because they owed it! The damages accumulated in WW2 were actual, incontrovertible. To this day they are finding secret stashes of masters artworks stolen by the Nazis from families who may or may not be around to claim them. The punitive damages should so far exceed the actual, a hundred times...a thousand...it should be enough that they should wish for capital punishment instead. Maybe that will dissuade any future Hitler wannabe, knowing his ancestors will be held accountable for his crimes.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#72692 Nov 13, 2013
Wow so many insane people on this thread

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72693 Nov 14, 2013
dreadman82 wrote:
Wow so many insane people on this thread
Which room are you in? There's green jello on Thursdays. There's "One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest" shown on Fridays and "The Shining" is the Saturday matinee. Cool Whip or Non-Fat Cream with that Jello?

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72694 Nov 14, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>So, your schizo other self thinks Israel needs to chase ambulances, huh? If I thought there was a case to be made I'd be all over it. I don't, therefore I'm not.
Know why Germany has paid reparations? Because they owed it! The damages accumulated in WW2 were actual, incontrovertible. To this day they are finding secret stashes of masters artworks stolen by the Nazis from families who may or may not be around to claim them. The punitive damages should so far exceed the actual, a hundred times...a thousand...it should be enough that they should wish for capital punishment instead. Maybe that will dissuade any future Hitler wannabe, knowing his ancestors will be held accountable for his crimes.
The money trail from the Chinese to those Terrorist groups which funded attacks that killed members of 22 families is "ambulance chasing"? Do you have Chinese stocks in your portfolio?

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72695 Nov 14, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
The money trail from the Chinese to those Terrorist groups which funded attacks that killed members of 22 families is "ambulance chasing"? Do you have Chinese stocks in your portfolio?
It's a bug hunt...like declaring war on an "ism". This wouldn't be a criminal case where they seek punishment of the perpetrators, it would be a civil case where they seek financial damages. If tried in the People's court, we might find another entity that considers them heroes of a revolution rather than the cold blooded killers they are. I don't need any of that validation so you go ahead, knock yourself out. I'd prefer a little undercover justice where the actual signer of the check ends up whisked away to Israel to answer to the Mossad for their investment in murder. That way, when China asks them about the whereabouts of their guy they can say "What guy?".

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72696 Nov 14, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>It's a bug hunt...like declaring war on an "ism". This wouldn't be a criminal case where they seek punishment of the perpetrators, it would be a civil case where they seek financial damages. If tried in the People's court, we might find another entity that considers them heroes of a revolution rather than the cold blooded killers they are. I don't need any of that validation so you go ahead, knock yourself out. I'd prefer a little undercover justice where the actual signer of the check ends up whisked away to Israel to answer to the Mossad for their investment in murder. That way, when China asks them about the whereabouts of their guy they can say "What guy?".
Financial damage is good! But, judging by the way the Israel powers to be are acting regarding the testimony of their "secret" witness, future financial damage from the yellow hand trumps any grievances those families have. I'm not naive to the fact that it is a very important decision to make. To make a deal with the devil seems all too easy for some. If this witness was less than credible, why all the hand wringing? Appears that assets could be frozen and compensation rendered. But, at what cost? Blah Blah Blah

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72697 Nov 14, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Financial damage is good! But, judging by the way the Israel powers to be are acting regarding the testimony of their "secret" witness, future financial damage from the yellow hand trumps any grievances those families have. I'm not naive to the fact that it is a very important decision to make. To make a deal with the devil seems all too easy for some. If this witness was less than credible, why all the hand wringing? Appears that assets could be frozen and compensation rendered. But, at what cost? Blah Blah Blah
Go ahead...the Bank of China is a state institution so garnishee China's wages. You only need to win in court first and I'm not sure you can get China to play the game, let alone single them out when we can't be sure any and all banks are any more secure from fund transfers to terrorists.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72698 Nov 14, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Go ahead...the Bank of China is a state institution so garnishee China's wages. You only need to win in court first and I'm not sure you can get China to play the game, let alone single them out when we can't be sure any and all banks are any more secure from fund transfers to terrorists.
Then they have no reason to not let the witness testify. What would he/she sworn to secrecy know? Funds transfer info? He knows something. There are no other banks involved. They're afraid of something incriminating. China don't have to play no game. If they have assets in Israel, you take the award. You're such a wuss.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72699 Nov 14, 2013
Looks like found another witness without "secret" clearance restrictions. They are guilty as sh!t.

Nitsana Darshan-Leitner, an Israeli attorney representing 22 families of terror victims said that the claimants’ lawyers planned to subpoena Stuart Levey, a former US Treasury official they believe warned the Bank of China in 2007 about accounts linked to Islamic Jihad and Hamas.

"Stuart Levey comes with direct information – firsthand knowledge regarding the Bank of China itself," said Ms Darshan-Leitner, director of the Israeli civil rights organisation Shurat HaDin, which has obtained more than $120m for claimants in similar cases brought in the US against Iran, the Palestinian Authority, North Korea, and others.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/053be8bc-4aae-11e3-...

Lawyers bringing the litigation in federal and state court in New York allege that Bank of China accounts in Guangzhou, southern China, were used by Hamas to wire money from the militant group’s headquarters in Syria and Jordan to Beijing. There, they claim, money was taken out of the account and sent to Hamas’s stronghold in the Gaza Strip either in a wire transfer or merchandise that was later sold to help the group's operations.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/053be8bc-4aae-...

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72700 Nov 14, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Then they have no reason to not let the witness testify. What would he/she sworn to secrecy know? Funds transfer info? He knows something. There are no other banks involved. They're afraid of something incriminating. China don't have to play no game. If they have assets in Israel, you take the award. You're such a wuss.
It wouldn't be very smart trade craft to put someone sworn to secrecy on the witness stand where they swear to tell the truth, he'd automatically provide the defense his own impeachment. IF Stuart Levey will testify he'll at least not start with a foot in the grave.

So now we have Israel and the US getting ready to pull the dragon's tail over financial consideration for contributing to crimes which may in the future be recognized as acts of war...nice.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72701 Nov 14, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>It wouldn't be very smart trade craft to put someone sworn to secrecy on the witness stand where they swear to tell the truth, he'd automatically provide the defense his own impeachment. IF Stuart Levey will testify he'll at least not start with a foot in the grave.
So now we have Israel and the US getting ready to pull the dragon's tail over financial consideration for contributing to crimes which may in the future be recognized as acts of war...nice.
Do you really think that throwing a grenade into a crowded cafe or bombing a bus full of civilians will eventually be considered an act of war? Really? Huh? By who? The Yellow Hand?.....not so nice

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72702 Nov 14, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really think that throwing a grenade into a crowded cafe or bombing a bus full of civilians will eventually be considered an act of war? Really? Huh? By who? The Yellow Hand?.....not so nice
Remember, one man's terrorist is another man's hero. There are an awful lot of people in the world for whom that sentiment resonates. Three quarters of the world's population resides in the 3rd world and subsist on around $2.50 a day. Even if Israel allowed it, Palestinians couldn't afford to equip an air force so they use what they have.

We will probably lose our foothold in Afghanistan at the end of 2014 because the parties can't come to an agreement that includes us operating outside the law of the land. They already state categorically that drone strikes impacting the civilian population are illegal yet we continue to plink away. Pakistan too, they condone our taking out their Taliban trash but all hell breaks loose when the civilians nearby get reduced to a pink cloud.
nutjobs here

Israel

#72703 Nov 14, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really think that throwing a grenade into a crowded cafe or bombing a bus full of civilians will eventually be considered an act of war? Really? Huh? By who? The Yellow Hand?.....not so nice
Didn't America claim the Boston Bombing as a WMD attack??
They also imposed martial law.

Is this a sign of things to come?
Ratloder

Naugatuck, CT

#72704 Nov 14, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Remember, one man's terrorist is another man's hero. There are an awful lot of people in the world for whom that sentiment resonates. Three quarters of the world's population resides in the 3rd world and subsist on around $2.50 a day. Even if Israel allowed it, Palestinians couldn't afford to equip an air force so they use what they have.
We will probably lose our foothold in Afghanistan at the end of 2014 because the parties can't come to an agreement that includes us operating outside the law of the land. They already state categorically that drone strikes impacting the civilian population are illegal yet we continue to plink away. Pakistan too, they condone our taking out their Taliban trash but all hell breaks loose when the civilians nearby get reduced to a pink cloud.
We have said over and over, that we will track down those that attempt to or kill our troops and that no "border" will shield them. So, fcuk them and you..

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72705 Nov 14, 2013
nutjobs here wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't America claim the Boston Bombing as a WMD attack??
They also imposed martial law.
Is this a sign of things to come?
When was that? I must have missed it.

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