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Since: Jun 10

Israel

#72137 Sep 19, 2013
on our lot
danetoo

London, UK

#72138 Sep 20, 2013
Voice of Peace wrote:
.
Babe, I envy you..
I've done already that trail, without the Tunnel and Ferry part of it..
Thirty eight years ago.
Honey moon.
It was our Passover.
The American Company that I worked for and was loyal to, gave me a USD 600 gift/bonus. I've never had so much money in one pocket in my whole life.
It was both of us and Arthur ....
Arthur Frommer - "Europe on 10 dollars a day" (I wonder if you were born already, on those days that with ten dollars, Europe could be invaded, conquered, subjugated and enjoyed ..twenty four hours/day)
Arthur advertised the cheapest place in Europe (Belgium) where you could rent the cheapest car in Europe of those days .. FIAT 850..(young girl, d'you know what I'm writing about..?? Do you speak the language..??) I made a reservation... by Telex..!!
We got to the rental agency to claim 'our' car ... and one angel was waiting for us.'Je suis desolee. Nous n'est avons pas FIAT 850..!!'

.
I like driving.

Drove around Israel and the Sinai before the Yom Kippur and after the Yom Kippur - lived in Israel during the damn yum kippur and lost a few good friends - worked for Kopel Tours as it was called at the time as a guide of US (jewish) tourists out of Netanya and then later Tel Aviv .. what a pain the butt (arse) THEY were - "we sponsored THAT bench, so we OWN the country" lol ... Kopel generously sent me to the Ulpan to learn Ivrit - and then to guiding school to learn that. T'was fun times.

Spent time in Golan .. Kiriyat Shmona ... beautiful part of the world, and sorry .. so many.

Hitchhiked a lot on Saturdays I recall - once from Tel Aviv to the Dead Sea on my own. My friends were horrified - said I could've been driven to Jordan and sold into white slave trade and wouldn't even have known ... actually probably would've known once sold ...

Made many reservations by telex - could even "read" the telex strip .. the "dots" ...

So yes was born to know $10 a day in Europe - did my turn at that, inter railing - and then on my honeymoon around Europe, also in a car ... and tent ... with my Israeli husband - who died far too young - was in the IAF, and "they" (medical team) thought he might've had radiation in Yom Kippur as was rare cancer. Had good times - and had fantastic times. And now have the son and grandchild, so good legacy. Quarter greek, quarter polish, half danish .. my son - my grandson 1/8th I suppose.

I just don't believe in getting older particularly gracefully and do a 100 miles an hour - without turbo.

Congrats with yellow bettle ... had a red one until just a few years ago when she bowed out with a sigh after long and good service taking me around UK and occasionally also Europe. Now have a golf (sports model, 1.9 TDi but of course - those long trips require speed!!) so have stayed with the "family"

I hope you have a great trip with your friends ...:)
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72139 Sep 20, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
Now you're talking. ;>)
I see , now you love "spamming".
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72141 Sep 20, 2013



September 19, 2013

Obama waives ban on
arming terrorists

This is what we’ve been warning about for weeks.

See the Jihad Watch post below (highlights added), which quotes a Washington Examiner article.

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Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian jihadists

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/obama-waive...

And thereby admits that he knows they're jihad terrorists, contrary to all of Kerry's blather about "moderates," and wants to arm them anyway.

The U.S. is now officially on the side of al-Qaeda.

"Obama waives ban on arming terrorists to allow aid to Syrian opposition," by Joel Gehrke for the Washington Examiner, September 16 :

President Obama waived a provision of federal law designed to prevent the supply of arms to terrorist groups to clear the way for the U.S. to provide military assistance to "vetted" opposition groups fighting Syrian dictator Bashar Assad.

Some elements of the Syrian opposition are associated with radical Islamic terrorist groups, including al Qaeda, which was responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks in New York, Washington, D.C., and Shanksville, Pa., in 2001. Assad's regime is backed by Iran and Hezbollah.

The president, citing his authority under the Arms Export Control Act, announced today that he would "waive the prohibitions in sections 40 and 40A of the AECA related to such a transaction."

Those two sections prohibit sending weaponry to countries described in section 40(d): "The prohibitions contained in this section apply with respect to a country if the Secretary of State determines that the government of that country has repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism," Congress stated in the Arms Control Export Act.

"For purposes of this subsection, such acts shall include all activities that the Secretary determines willfully aid or abet the international proliferation of nuclear explosive devices to individuals or groups or willfully aid or abet an individual or groups in acquiring unsafeguarded special nuclear material," the law continues.

The law allows the president to waive those prohibitions if he "determines that the transaction is essential to the national security interests of the United States."...

In no conceivable way is arming al-Qaeda in Syria "essential to the national security interests of the United States."

No, of course the great fake one is not supporting muslim terror, no. Fuck the terror supportinf liar

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72142 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
I see , now you love "spamming".
No, I love snopes. They may have a liberal rep from those whose agenda gets debunked, but their fact checking in Internet BS is second to none. Who says you can't teach an old new tricks? You Old Dog You! ;>)
danetoo

London, UK

#72143 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonderful, islam sucks big time........
Agreed wholeheartedly

sadly ..

a woman I know, being a woman myself ... converted a few years back to islam, due to marriage ..

and the change is unfathomable ... I am sad for her - and for me

Something great disappears in people when islam enters the heart and mind ..
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72144 Sep 20, 2013
danetoo wrote:
<quoted text>
Agreed wholeheartedly
sadly ..
a woman I know, being a woman myself ... converted a few years back to islam, due to marriage ..
and the change is unfathomable ... I am sad for her - and for me
Something great disappears in people when islam enters the heart and mind ..
Looks like islam enters people at a "lower" level, like the back side.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72145 Sep 20, 2013
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Subject: Fwd: McCain's Brother........' On Jews '.........

McCain's brother on Jews PLEASE READ THIS-



Joe McCain, Senator McCain's brother, on Jews and Israel. We know little
about him, other than he is a retired reporter. This is what he wrote.
Definitely worth reading...
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Senator John McCain's brother on the Jews
&
Israel.

There is a lot of worry popping up in the media just now --'Can
Israel Survive?' Don't worry about it. It relates to something that
Palestinians, the Arabs, and perhaps most Americans don't realize -- the
Jews are NEVER going quietly again. NEVER. And if the world doesn't come to
understand that, then MILLIONS OF ARABS ARE GOING TO DIE. It's as simple as
that.


Throughout the history of the world, the most abused,
kicked-around race of people have been the Jews. Not just during the
holocaust of World War II, but for THOUSANDS of years. They have truly been
'The Chosen People' in a terrible and tragic sense.


The Bible story of Egypt 's enslavement of the Jews is not just a
story, IT IS HISTORY, if festooned with theological legend and heroic epics.
In 70 A.D. the Romans, which had for a long time tolerated the Jews - even
admired them as 'superior' to other vassals -- tired of their
truculent
demands for independence and decided on an early 'Solution' to the Jewish
problem Jerusalem was sacked and reduced to near rubble, Jewish resistance
was pursued and crushed by the implacable Roman War Machine -- see 'Masada'.



And thus began The Diaspora, the DISPERSAL OF JEWS throughout the
rest of the world..

Their homeland destroyed, their culture crushed, they looked
desperately for the few niches in a hostile world where they could be safe.
That safety was fragile, and often subject to the whims of moody hosts. The
words 'pogrom','ghetto', and 'anti-Semitism' come from this treatment of
the first mono-theistic people. Throughout Europe, changing times meant
sometimes tolerance,
sometimes even warmth for the Jews, but eventually it
meant hostility, then malevolence. There is not a country in Europe or
Western Asia that at one time or another has not decided to lash out against
the children of Moses, sometimes by whim, sometimes by manipulation.

Winston Churchill calls Edward I one of England 's very greatest
kings. It was under his rule in the late 1200's that Wales and Cornwall were
hammered into the British crown, and Scotland and Ireland were invaded and
occupied.


He was also the first European monarch to set up a really
effective administrative bureaucracy, surveyed and censused his kingdom,
established laws and political divisions. But he also embraced the Jews.

Actually Edward didn't embrace Jews so much as he embraced their
money. For the English Jews had acquired wealth -- understandable, because
these people that could not own land or office, could not join most of
trades and
professions, soon found that money was a very good thing to
accumulate. Much harder to take away than land or a store, was a hidden sock
of gold and silver coins. Ever resourceful, Edward found a way -- he
borrowed money from the Jews to finance imperial ambitions in Europe,
specially France. Loans were almost certainly not made gladly,
but how do
you refuse your King? Especially when he is 'Edward the Hammer'. Then,
rather than pay back the debt, Edward simply expelled the Jews. Edward was
especially inventive -- he did this twice. After a time, he invited the Jews
back to their English homeland, borrowed more money, then expelled them
again.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72146 Sep 20, 2013

Most people do not know that Spain was one of the early entrants
into The Renaissance. People from all over the world came to Spain in the
late medieval period. All were welcome -- Arabs, Jews, other Europeans. The
University of Salamanca was one of the great centers of learning in the
world -- scholars of all nations, all fields came to Salamanca to share
their knowledge and their ideas. But in 1492 Ferdinand and Isabella, having
driven the last of Moors from the Spanish Shield, were persuaded by the
righteous fundamentalists of the time to announce 'The Act of Purification'.


A series of steps were taken in
which all Jews and Arabs and other
non-Christians were expelled from the country, or would face the tools
and
the torches of The Inquisition. From this 'cleansing' come the Sephardic
Jews -- as opposed to the Ashkenazis of Eastern Europe. In Eastern Europe ,
the sporadic violence and brutality against Jews are common knowledge.


'Fiddler' without the music and folksy humor. At times of fury, no
accommodation by the Jew was good enough, no profile low enough, no village
poor enough or distant enough.

From these come the near-steady flow of Jews to the United States
. And despite the disdain of the Jews by most 'American' Americans, they
came to grab the American Dream with both hands, and contributed everything
from new ideas of enterprise in retail and entertainment to becoming some of
our finest physicians and lawyers. The modern United States , in spite of
itself, IS The United States in part because of its Jewish blood.

Then the Nazi Holocaust -- the corralling, sorting, orderly
eradication of millions of the people of Moses. Not something that other
realms in other times didn't try to do, by the way, the Germans were just
more organized and had better murder technology..

I stood in the center of Dachau
for an entire day, about 15 years
ago, trying to comprehend how this could have happened. I had gone there on
a side trip from Munich, vaguely curious about this Dachau. I soon became
engulfed in the enormity of what had occurred there nestled in this middle &
working class neighborhood.

How could human beings do this to other human beings, hear their
cries, their pleas, their terror, their pain, and continue without
apparently even wincing? I no longer wonder. At some times, some places, ANY
sect of the human
race is capable of horrors against their fellow man,
whether a member of the Waffen SS, a Serbian sniper,a Turkish policeman in
1920's Armenia, a Mississippi Klansman. Because even in the United States
not all was a Rose Garden. For a long time Jews had quotas in our
universities and graduate schools. Only so many Jews could be in a
medical
or law school at one time.


Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72147 Sep 20, 2013
Part 3

Jews were disparaged widely. I remember as a kid Jewish jokes told
without a wince -'Why do Jews have such big noses?'

Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs.
And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times United States and
European powers try to
rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its
nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save
her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill,
that will astound us.

And many will die, mostly their attackers, I
believe. If there were
a macabre historical betting parlor, my money would be on the Israelis to be
standing at the end. As we killed the kamikazes and the Wehrmacht soldaten
of World War II, so will the Israelis kill their suicidal attackers, until
there are not enough to torment them.

The irony goes unnoticed -- while we are hammering away to punish
those who brought the horrors of last September here, we restrain the
Israelis from the same retaliation. Not the same thing, of course -- We are
We, They are They.
While we mourn and see the at September 11th, we don't
notice that Israel has a September 11th sometimes every day.

We may not notice, but it doesn't make any difference. And it
doesn't make any
difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think
Israel
is the bully of the Middle East . If it comes to where a new holocaust looms
-- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel
will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to
annihilate their country.

The Jews will not go quietly again.

Joe McCain


Bravo!!!!!!!
danetoo

London, UK

#72148 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
Part 3
Jews were disparaged widely. I remember as a kid Jewish jokes told
without a wince -'Why do Jews have such big noses?'
Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs.
And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times United States and
European powers try to
rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its
nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save
her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill,
that will astound us.
And many will die, mostly their attackers, I
believe. If there were
a macabre historical betting parlor, my money would be on the Israelis to be
standing at the end. As we killed the kamikazes and the Wehrmacht soldaten
of World War II, so will the Israelis kill their suicidal attackers, until
there are not enough to torment them.
The irony goes unnoticed -- while we are hammering away to punish
those who brought the horrors of last September here, we restrain the
Israelis from the same retaliation. Not the same thing, of course -- We are
We, They are They.
While we mourn and see the at September 11th, we don't
notice that Israel has a September 11th sometimes every day.
We may not notice, but it doesn't make any difference. And it
doesn't make any
difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think
Israel
is the bully of the Middle East . If it comes to where a new holocaust looms
-- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel
will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to
annihilate their country.
The Jews will not go quietly again.
Joe McCain
Bravo!!!!!!!
BRAVO indeed !!!!!!!!!!

(do you have a link to this, as there's someone I'd like to send this to ....- someone who keeps sending me articles about how terrible the Israelis are killing Palestinians "all the time" and beating up Palestinian children etc. etc. etc....)
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72149 Sep 20, 2013
danetoo wrote:
<quoted text>
BRAVO indeed !!!!!!!!!!
(do you have a link to this, as there's someone I'd like to send this to ....- someone who keeps sending me articles about how terrible the Israelis are killing Palestinians "all the time" and beating up Palestinian children etc. etc. etc....)
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".

senator mccain's brother on jews and israel

Regards

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72150 Sep 20, 2013
I've been thinking about it and I think that now the time is right to join the jihad as a cameraman.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tunisian-wom...

You know....because jihad sells.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72151 Sep 20, 2013
Subject: Fwd: Brand new leather jacket (This is a must to be viewed)



More British madness ~ we are such a 'soft touch' for any EU immigrants while our own citizens are homeless and our elderly are neglected ...... And why can't our politicians see that by encouraging (particularly Muslim) immigrants, we will end up by losing our own culture arrived at by many centuries of development ..........

I have listened on TV today to the UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) annual conference ~ at the next Europian/general elections, while they won't get a majority, they will become the party moving up to 2nd or 3rd choice ~ this will mean we have many more MPs who represent what the majority of British people want in our parliament.

What is your preferred email address ?

IF THIS WAS A JOKE I COULD LAUGH, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!

Put your speakers on..........

Click on brand new leather jacket below. This requires sound.

Brand New Leather Jacket



Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#72152 Sep 20, 2013

Since: Jul 10

Copenhagen ... denmark

#72153 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".
senator mccain's brother on jews and israel
Regards
thanks ... done :))

do like *the leather jacket*...

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72154 Sep 20, 2013
danetoo1 wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks ... done :))
do like *the leather jacket*...
That looks delicious!

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72155 Sep 20, 2013
Y'know, if the Basques were running this jihad we'd at least have programs and be able to tell who the players are.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/...

This is one of those onions where every time you peel off a layer you get one crazy step closer to the insane center.

Know why there are no Arab Jai Alai players? Because there are baskets and balls and up to now, it's been 99.99% AK-47 free

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72156 Sep 21, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".
senator mccain's brother on jews and israel
Regards
The Devil's Advocate says, besides a checkered past, inability to cut it in the Navy, there are always two sides to a coin.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/200...

>His claim that “Throughout the history of the world, the most abused, kicked-around race of people have been the Jews”, is hardly something of which to be proud, or the consciousness which should produce a commitment to continued Jewish existence. If the only reason we persist in existing is to prove that we can keep on existing, then it’s probably time to hang it up. Not to mention that Jews are hardly the only ones who would make this claim. I have heard it from Native American Indians, Koreans, and so many more. And in each case, such survivalist understanding of identity proves bad both for those who subscribe to it and for those around them.
It’s bad for those claiming it because they loose touch with any larger purpose to their existence as a community. They end up with no understanding of themselves beyond the winners of some agonizing endurance contest.<

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72157 Sep 21, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
The Devil's Advocate says, besides a checkered past, inability to cut it in the Navy, there are always two sides to a coin.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/200...
>His claim that “Throughout the history of the world, the most abused, kicked-around race of people have been the Jews”, is hardly something of which to be proud, or the consciousness which should produce a commitment to continued Jewish existence. If the only reason we persist in existing is to prove that we can keep on existing, then it’s probably time to hang it up. Not to mention that Jews are hardly the only ones who would make this claim. I have heard it from Native American Indians, Koreans, and so many more. And in each case, such survivalist understanding of identity proves bad both for those who subscribe to it and for those around them.
It’s bad for those claiming it because they loose touch with any larger purpose to their existence as a community. They end up with no understanding of themselves beyond the winners of some agonizing endurance contest.<
So? If the coin were an NIS, the sides might look different but the message would be the same...go mess with the native Americans or Koreans or Syrians or you'll die. Your perspective changes when you are one descendant away from extinction.

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