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Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

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Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#72146 Sep 20, 2013

Most people do not know that Spain was one of the early entrants
into The Renaissance. People from all over the world came to Spain in the
late medieval period. All were welcome -- Arabs, Jews, other Europeans. The
University of Salamanca was one of the great centers of learning in the
world -- scholars of all nations, all fields came to Salamanca to share
their knowledge and their ideas. But in 1492 Ferdinand and Isabella, having
driven the last of Moors from the Spanish Shield, were persuaded by the
righteous fundamentalists of the time to announce 'The Act of Purification'.


A series of steps were taken in
which all Jews and Arabs and other
non-Christians were expelled from the country, or would face the tools
and
the torches of The Inquisition. From this 'cleansing' come the Sephardic
Jews -- as opposed to the Ashkenazis of Eastern Europe. In Eastern Europe ,
the sporadic violence and brutality against Jews are common knowledge.


'Fiddler' without the music and folksy humor. At times of fury, no
accommodation by the Jew was good enough, no profile low enough, no village
poor enough or distant enough.

From these come the near-steady flow of Jews to the United States
. And despite the disdain of the Jews by most 'American' Americans, they
came to grab the American Dream with both hands, and contributed everything
from new ideas of enterprise in retail and entertainment to becoming some of
our finest physicians and lawyers. The modern United States , in spite of
itself, IS The United States in part because of its Jewish blood.

Then the Nazi Holocaust -- the corralling, sorting, orderly
eradication of millions of the people of Moses. Not something that other
realms in other times didn't try to do, by the way, the Germans were just
more organized and had better murder technology..

I stood in the center of Dachau
for an entire day, about 15 years
ago, trying to comprehend how this could have happened. I had gone there on
a side trip from Munich, vaguely curious about this Dachau. I soon became
engulfed in the enormity of what had occurred there nestled in this middle &
working class neighborhood.

How could human beings do this to other human beings, hear their
cries, their pleas, their terror, their pain, and continue without
apparently even wincing? I no longer wonder. At some times, some places, ANY
sect of the human
race is capable of horrors against their fellow man,
whether a member of the Waffen SS, a Serbian sniper,a Turkish policeman in
1920's Armenia, a Mississippi Klansman. Because even in the United States
not all was a Rose Garden. For a long time Jews had quotas in our
universities and graduate schools. Only so many Jews could be in a
medical
or law school at one time.


Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#72147 Sep 20, 2013
Part 3

Jews were disparaged widely. I remember as a kid Jewish jokes told
without a wince -'Why do Jews have such big noses?'

Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs.
And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times United States and
European powers try to
rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its
nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save
her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill,
that will astound us.

And many will die, mostly their attackers, I
believe. If there were
a macabre historical betting parlor, my money would be on the Israelis to be
standing at the end. As we killed the kamikazes and the Wehrmacht soldaten
of World War II, so will the Israelis kill their suicidal attackers, until
there are not enough to torment them.

The irony goes unnoticed -- while we are hammering away to punish
those who brought the horrors of last September here, we restrain the
Israelis from the same retaliation. Not the same thing, of course -- We are
We, They are They.
While we mourn and see the at September 11th, we don't
notice that Israel has a September 11th sometimes every day.

We may not notice, but it doesn't make any difference. And it
doesn't make any
difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think
Israel
is the bully of the Middle East . If it comes to where a new holocaust looms
-- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel
will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to
annihilate their country.

The Jews will not go quietly again.

Joe McCain


Bravo!!!!!!!
danetoo

London, UK

#72148 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
Part 3
Jews were disparaged widely. I remember as a kid Jewish jokes told
without a wince -'Why do Jews have such big noses?'
Well, now the Jews have a homeland again. A place that is theirs.
And that's the point. It doesn't matter how many times United States and
European powers try to
rein in Israel, if it comes down to survival of its
nation, its people, they will fight like no lioness has ever fought to save
her cubs. They will fight with a ferocity, a determination, and a skill,
that will astound us.
And many will die, mostly their attackers, I
believe. If there were
a macabre historical betting parlor, my money would be on the Israelis to be
standing at the end. As we killed the kamikazes and the Wehrmacht soldaten
of World War II, so will the Israelis kill their suicidal attackers, until
there are not enough to torment them.
The irony goes unnoticed -- while we are hammering away to punish
those who brought the horrors of last September here, we restrain the
Israelis from the same retaliation. Not the same thing, of course -- We are
We, They are They.
While we mourn and see the at September 11th, we don't
notice that Israel has a September 11th sometimes every day.
We may not notice, but it doesn't make any difference. And it
doesn't make any
difference whether you are pro-Israeli or you think
Israel
is the bully of the Middle East . If it comes to where a new holocaust looms
-- with or without the concurrence of the United States and Europe -- Israel
will lash out without pause or restraint at those who would try to
annihilate their country.
The Jews will not go quietly again.
Joe McCain
Bravo!!!!!!!
BRAVO indeed !!!!!!!!!!

(do you have a link to this, as there's someone I'd like to send this to ....- someone who keeps sending me articles about how terrible the Israelis are killing Palestinians "all the time" and beating up Palestinian children etc. etc. etc....)
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#72149 Sep 20, 2013
danetoo wrote:
<quoted text>
BRAVO indeed !!!!!!!!!!
(do you have a link to this, as there's someone I'd like to send this to ....- someone who keeps sending me articles about how terrible the Israelis are killing Palestinians "all the time" and beating up Palestinian children etc. etc. etc....)
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".

senator mccain's brother on jews and israel

Regards

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72150 Sep 20, 2013
I've been thinking about it and I think that now the time is right to join the jihad as a cameraman.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tunisian-wom...

You know....because jihad sells.
Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#72151 Sep 20, 2013
Subject: Fwd: Brand new leather jacket (This is a must to be viewed)



More British madness ~ we are such a 'soft touch' for any EU immigrants while our own citizens are homeless and our elderly are neglected ...... And why can't our politicians see that by encouraging (particularly Muslim) immigrants, we will end up by losing our own culture arrived at by many centuries of development ..........

I have listened on TV today to the UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) annual conference ~ at the next Europian/general elections, while they won't get a majority, they will become the party moving up to 2nd or 3rd choice ~ this will mean we have many more MPs who represent what the majority of British people want in our parliament.

What is your preferred email address ?

IF THIS WAS A JOKE I COULD LAUGH, UNFORTUNATELY IT IS NOT!!!!!!!!!!

Put your speakers on..........

Click on brand new leather jacket below. This requires sound.

Brand New Leather Jacket



Uzi

Herzliya, Israel

#72152 Sep 20, 2013

Since: Jul 10

Copenhagen ... denmark

#72153 Sep 20, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".
senator mccain's brother on jews and israel
Regards
thanks ... done :))

do like *the leather jacket*...

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72154 Sep 20, 2013
danetoo1 wrote:
<quoted text>
thanks ... done :))
do like *the leather jacket*...
That looks delicious!

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72155 Sep 20, 2013
Y'know, if the Basques were running this jihad we'd at least have programs and be able to tell who the players are.

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2013/9/...

This is one of those onions where every time you peel off a layer you get one crazy step closer to the insane center.

Know why there are no Arab Jai Alai players? Because there are baskets and balls and up to now, it's been 99.99% AK-47 free

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72156 Sep 21, 2013
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
With pleasure; just Google this and chose your "weapon".
senator mccain's brother on jews and israel
Regards
The Devil's Advocate says, besides a checkered past, inability to cut it in the Navy, there are always two sides to a coin.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/200...

>His claim that “Throughout the history of the world, the most abused, kicked-around race of people have been the Jews”, is hardly something of which to be proud, or the consciousness which should produce a commitment to continued Jewish existence. If the only reason we persist in existing is to prove that we can keep on existing, then it’s probably time to hang it up. Not to mention that Jews are hardly the only ones who would make this claim. I have heard it from Native American Indians, Koreans, and so many more. And in each case, such survivalist understanding of identity proves bad both for those who subscribe to it and for those around them.
It’s bad for those claiming it because they loose touch with any larger purpose to their existence as a community. They end up with no understanding of themselves beyond the winners of some agonizing endurance contest.<

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72157 Sep 21, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
The Devil's Advocate says, besides a checkered past, inability to cut it in the Navy, there are always two sides to a coin.
http://blog.beliefnet.com/windowsanddoors/200...
>His claim that “Throughout the history of the world, the most abused, kicked-around race of people have been the Jews”, is hardly something of which to be proud, or the consciousness which should produce a commitment to continued Jewish existence. If the only reason we persist in existing is to prove that we can keep on existing, then it’s probably time to hang it up. Not to mention that Jews are hardly the only ones who would make this claim. I have heard it from Native American Indians, Koreans, and so many more. And in each case, such survivalist understanding of identity proves bad both for those who subscribe to it and for those around them.
It’s bad for those claiming it because they loose touch with any larger purpose to their existence as a community. They end up with no understanding of themselves beyond the winners of some agonizing endurance contest.<
So? If the coin were an NIS, the sides might look different but the message would be the same...go mess with the native Americans or Koreans or Syrians or you'll die. Your perspective changes when you are one descendant away from extinction.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72158 Sep 21, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>So? If the coin were an NIS, the sides might look different but the message would be the same...go mess with the native Americans or Koreans or Syrians or you'll die. Your perspective changes when you are one descendant away from extinction.
I'm not a Rabbi presenting an alternative view of a Military non-hacker sh!t head's "supposedly",(no first hand confirmation from HIM that he said any of it) e-mail frenzy resurrected from 2002 and posted here resulting in a drooling applause from those, including you, that your boner is justified. This Rabbi is more Jew than you or ugzi and his response is clearly justified. But, like political opinions, it falls on selective deaf ears. It's spam colored as an appetizer. I did my research, before I responded, Commander. I suggest you do the same.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72159 Sep 21, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a Rabbi presenting an alternative view of a Military non-hacker sh!t head's "supposedly",(no first hand confirmation from HIM that he said any of it) e-mail frenzy resurrected from 2002 and posted here resulting in a drooling applause from those, including you, that your boner is justified. This Rabbi is more Jew than you or ugzi and his response is clearly justified. But, like political opinions, it falls on selective deaf ears. It's spam colored as an appetizer. I did my research, before I responded, Commander. I suggest you do the same.
He's more Jew than me? I'll let you in on a little secret...I became his absolute equal the day they trimmed my pecker. That's why you can take that holier than thou sht someplace else. I don't need anyone to validate my relationship with God, haven't you ever had a rotten teacher? They're everywhere.

Get outta here with .

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72160 Sep 21, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>He's more Jew than me? I'll let you in on a little secret...I became his absolute equal the day they trimmed my pecker. That's why you can take that holier than thou sht someplace else. I don't need anyone to validate my relationship with God, haven't you ever had a rotten teacher? They're everywhere.
Get outta here with .
Pretty much what I expected. That's why that shit hole they're in gets deeper and deeper. You fccking guys think that might is right. I only hope you're right. Personally, I don't give a fcck. You guys are, what the Rabbi said, of the survivalists mentality and pay no attention to any other opinions. Have you stocked your cave in anticipation of the end of the world, Tough Guy? Look out. They're everywhere. Your anger proceeds your better judgement for sensible discussion. May I remind you that you are in Fla and nowhere the front lines? Armchair warrior?

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72161 Sep 21, 2013
Anybody crediting Joe McC with anything should take a look at Clinton's crazy fcck relative. Joe didn't piss on a wall. He pissed on his entire credibility as reliable source for anything but the weather for 2015. Jurkoffs.

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72162 Sep 21, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>He's more Jew than me? I'll let you in on a little secret...I became his absolute equal the day they trimmed my pecker. That's why you can take that holier than thou sht someplace else. I don't need anyone to validate my relationship with God, haven't you ever had a rotten teacher? They're everywhere.
Get outta here with .
So, you are his absolute equal because you got your pecker trimmed? I got trimmed by the USN at the age of 22. Does that entitle me to be a newer Jew than you? Take your head out of your lap and make a reasonable rebuttal to the man other than "religion". He ain't lying and he IS more Jew than you. You aren't on the Miami Football team, as much as you think you are. Oh, and it's Saturday. Shove the lame meanness schtick where the sun always shine, down there.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72163 Sep 21, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
So, you are his absolute equal because you got your pecker trimmed? I got trimmed by the USN at the age of 22. Does that entitle me to be a newer Jew than you? Take your head out of your lap and make a reasonable rebuttal to the man other than "religion". He ain't lying and he IS more Jew than you. You aren't on the Miami Football team, as much as you think you are. Oh, and it's Saturday. Shove the lame meanness schtick where the sun always shine, down there.
What part of never again don't you get?

Yumpin Yimminy

“Yee vizz”

Since: Dec 12

Central Connecticut

#72164 Sep 21, 2013
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>What part of never again don't you get?
I get it. Blah Blah Blah. Talk is cheap. When the sh!t comes down, you keep twiddling those thumbs. There are other avenues that need to be explored. You know, Warrior, you don't even come close to realizing the hordes that are massing on Israel's borders.(aka Syria) This ain't 1967 and you ain't tucked into your Vietnam era aircraft killing machine. Actually, you are starting to bore me.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#72165 Sep 21, 2013
Yumpin Yimminy wrote:
<quoted text>
I get it. Blah Blah Blah. Talk is cheap. When the sh!t comes down, you keep twiddling those thumbs. There are other avenues that need to be explored. You know, Warrior, you don't even come close to realizing the hordes that are massing on Israel's borders.(aka Syria) This ain't 1967 and you ain't tucked into your Vietnam era aircraft killing machine. Actually, you are starting to bore me.
Then my work here is done.

Good day.

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