Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

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Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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Obambi’s red line, according to our “friends” at ABC News, was concocted by the media, of course, of which they are not part of. LOL
President Obama’s ‘Red Line’: What He Actually Said About Syria and Chemical Weapons
>The use of chemical weapons, itself, was not exactly Obama’s original “red line,” as he laid it out during a news conference at the White House on Aug. 20, 2012. For purposes of expediency and practicality, media outlets have simplified the “red line” as this: If Syria deployed chemical weapons against its own people, it would have crossed a threshold with the White House.
But what Obama said was a little less clear.
“We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized,” the president said a year ago last week.“That would change my calculus. That would change my equation.”
It was also unclear what the consequences of crossing that “red line” would be. Obama has cautioned that unilateral action, particularly without a U.N. mandate, may be unwise and could run afoul of international law. In keeping with the strategy he used in seeking international cooperation for airstrikes against Libya in 2011, Obama warned in a CNN interview last week that international cooperation is key to military intervention.
To many, Wednesday’s attack outside Damascus would likely qualify as “a whole bunch” of chemical weapons deployed.<
The answer to your question is “I doonnah no!” Maybe it was Netanyahu's warning to Iran. WOOF TICKETS FOR SALE. COME AND GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE HOT.
There's no cool way to do it.

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TRD, I wasted so many letters writing over and over.."if they are doing what they do to their populations, just imagine given a chance, what would they do to us .... they, being the dictators, the faux leaders and the faux Muslim Clergy..
Hitting civilian and infrastructure targets in Syria will produce no results. Assad is doing it every hour of the day..
Puuttaaiinn has to experience a gasing session over a large crowd in Moscow ...
A one year boycott on Chinese made products will deliver the message at Tiananmen Square..
Assad and his Officers have to hang in Downtown Damascus..
We take care of Nassrallah and the Hizballah...
... and the mullahs from Terhan .. for dessert..
No use either hitting civilian and infrastructure targets in Iran.. We don't have a conflict between both populations..
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Agreed. Now, work it out with the Arab League, our troops need a little time off.
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Sep 2, 2013
 
20% of CIA applicants tied to Hamas, Hizballah, al-Qaeda
Clearly, there have been serious attempts at infiltration. And did any of the infiltrators slip by and into the CIA? Given the fact that our government is committed to politically correct willful ignorance about the nature of Islam and jihad, and thus is unlikely to know how to screen applicants properly on these matters, that is not just a possibility; it's a certainty.

"CIA finds 1-in-5 job applicants hail from Hamas, Hezbollah, al Qaeda," by Cheryl K. Chumley for The Washington Times, September 2 ):

An estimated one-fifth of all applicants for Central Intelligence Agency positions had significant ties to the terror groups, Hamas, Hezbollah and al Qaeda, a newly released document from the Edward Snowden collection revealed on Monday.
The document — released by Mr. Snowden as part of his National Security Agency intelligence dump — said that the terrorist groups worked hard to infiltrate America’s top security agencies. CIA officials uncovered thousands of applicants, roughly 1-in-5, with “significant terrorist and/or hostile intelligence connections,” the document states, Ynet News reported.

The specifics of those ties were not revealed. But the groups most often cited as attempting to infiltrate the U.S. intelligence network were al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah.

The NSA, in response, launched investigations into 4,000 instances of suspected abnormal staff activity, Ynet News said. Those investigations included the tracking of employee keystrokes on agency computers and the recording of document downloads.

“Over the last several years, a small subset of CIA’s total job applicants were flagged due to various problems or issues,” one unnamed agency official said, Ynet News reported.“During this period, one in five of that small subset was found to have significant connections to hostile intelligence services and-or terrorist groups.”

So what?? one of their guy is sitting in the White house.
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Islamic teaching: Non-Muslims equal to dogs
[Via RaymondIbrahim.com ]

Among those familiar with the true teachings of Islam, it is well known that the life — or as articulated in Arabic, the “blood”— of an infidel, that is, a non-Muslim, is not equal to the life/blood of a Muslim. Few know, however, that among some of Islam’s respected hadith collections, the blood of a non-Muslim is no better than the blood of a dog.

(Dog-lovers should bear in mind that, in Islam, to be compared to a dog is about the worst and most degrading insult.)

Brother Rashid (a former Muslim turned Christian) recently discussed this during his Arabic-language show, Su’al Jari’(“Daring Question,” which I recently appeared on to discuss my book, Crucified Again).

According to a hadith recorded among other places in Sunan Ahmed (Hanbali jurisprudence) and Sunan al-Bayhaqi (Shafi’i jurisprudence), during the course of a discussion about non-Muslims, Caliph Omar al-Khattab — one of Sunni Islam’s “four righteous caliphs”— declared “They are heathens, and the blood of one of them is [like] the blood of a dog.”
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Sep 2, 2013
 
Really?????

Pope Tawadros says Christians continue to flee Egypt, urges against "foreign interference"
Pope Tawadros said: "The acts of violence against Christians in Iraq, Syria and other areas may be interconnected. There is a kind of pressure on Christians in the Middle East..."

The Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch Gregory III Laham said in 2006 that "after 11 September, there is a plot to eliminate all the Christian minorities from the Arabic world."

"Pope Tawadros II Says Christians Continue to Flee Egypt, Urges Against 'Foreign Interference,'" from MidEast Christian News, August 30:

H.H. Pope Tawadros II of Alexandria has said there is pressure on Christians in the Middle East that has led to the migration of large numbers of Christians from the region.
The pope added that Egypt is experiencing tough times that would be followed by a new birth. He pointed out that Copts are deeply rooted in the land of Egypt and they reject any foreign interference in the affairs of Egypt in form and substance.

"The acts of violence against Christians in Iraq, Syria and other areas may be interconnected. There is a kind of pressure on Christians in the Middle East, and a large proportion of Christians have already migrated from Iraq," Pope Tawadros said during an interview with Hadith el-Youm program.

He believed that wars in the Arab world aim at fragmenting the region.

The pope pointed out that Egypt is now experiencing painful times, but this would be followed by a new birth. He explained that the reasons for such a situation in the country are many and accumulated, and are not the result of the present moment.

"Poor or no competence in administering a state like Egypt has caused what we are witnessing today," the pope noted....

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TRD, I wasted so many letters writing over and over.."if they are doing what they do to their populations, just imagine given a chance, what would they do to us .... they, being the dictators, the faux leaders and the faux Muslim Clergy..
Hitting civilian and infrastructure targets in Syria will produce no results. Assad is doing it every hour of the day..
Puuttaaiinn has to experience a gasing session over a large crowd in Moscow ...
A one year boycott on Chinese made products will deliver the message at Tiananmen Square..
Assad and his Officers have to hang in Downtown Damascus..
We take care of Nassrallah and the Hizballah...
... and the mullahs from Terhan .. for dessert..
No use either hitting civilian and infrastructure targets in Iran.. We don't have a conflict between both populations..
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Let me get this in after uzi's spam. In case you forgot. TRD was incinerating villages and killing Charlie long before you put on that fake yellow school guard crossing jacket protecting what you might suspect are speeders through your school zone. I bust his stones because I've earned it. I never did what he did, but I was supporting, real time, what was going on at that time. He was a young man flying at Mach 1+ following orders. The death toll from those missions could never be confirmed. As we round the bend on that far turn in our lives, you and me also, the Commander looks at these hoped for missions with a an experienced eye, while us armchair quarterbacks can only second guess what it really entails. Don't lecture like you know what it like to kill people. Lots of them. I expect that he rolls over now and then wondering what was done and why. He talks tough, but I'm not fooled at all. Those sounds he hears are part of him. You know what? Fcuk you and him. Blah blah blah. I know .

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Let me get this in after uzi's spam. In case you forgot. TRD was incinerating villages and killing Charlie long before you put on that fake yellow school guard crossing jacket protecting what you might suspect are speeders through your school zone. I bust his stones because I've earned it. I never did what he did, but I was supporting, real time, what was going on at that time. He was a young man flying at Mach 1+ following orders. The death toll from those missions could never be confirmed. As we round the bend on that far turn in our lives, you and me also, the Commander looks at these hoped for missions with a an experienced eye, while us armchair quarterbacks can only second guess what it really entails. Don't lecture like you know what it like to kill people. Lots of them. I expect that he rolls over now and then wondering what was done and why. He talks tough, but I'm not fooled at all. Those sounds he hears are part of him. You know what? Fcuk you and him. Blah blah blah. I know .
"TRD was incinerating villages..."

Et tu, Brute? I painted with a pretty broad brush but that? How long have you and Jane Fonda been married?

Don't look now but they had more wars in the ME than we did after WW2. For all we know VOP has a whole string of Arab ears hanging on his ego wall. Besides, nobody pays any attention to a bunch of old farts plotting to un-fcuk the world.

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Y and TRD .. my two brotha from anotha motha..

Feerst, I'm not lecturing ..
Seconddd.. I have never used my rusty, all bent and in need of a replacement, measuring fckkn tape ... to size anything that the USA might be doing or has done anytime in the axis of time.

All I'm doing is..
..I'm looking at my hood, where the 'kids'.. arabs and jewish .. will have to take the shit that we will leave them and with some type of alchemy (that at this moment we don't posses), convert that shit into a place where they can exist and subsist, create, work hard and progress, feed and generate substance and abundance for both of them ... and have some left to trade off for stupid things that the 'kids' on that side of the Mississipi created and let ours feel that if you don't own one ... you are an ape.

Y, because of work, I went to Khmer... many years later, out of curiosity we went to Nam...
I slept on their undersize beds, ate their food, tasted their beer, shat on their shit holes.. experienced from short range how they live, treat each other, treat others .. and as I do everywhere I go ..I also tried to understand from themselves ... what is it that they want from life.

On those latitudes yours and my measuring tapes render useless.

I can figure the Thais, I can say I'm on the process of begining to digest the Chinese that I have visited so far (haven't been yet to Tibet and the West..just to name two)... but I still have to figure the Vietnamese and the Cambodians.... and before I say that the 'Final Solution' should have been a re-run of the movie the little boy and the fat man .. in order to ascertain that they both 'liberate' themselves from their local chapter of Satan ... I will go to the kitchen and fix me the second and last cup of Made In Korea Taster's Choice coffee of the day..understanding that we haven't talked yet about 'this' shithole either.

...but you'll never catch me doing in bed the position of judging anything on that side of the Mississipi, since the Mayflower anchored at Plymouth..

Let me change the subject..
..fckk you, Y .. You don't insult VOP and hide behind the anonimity and intrinsic impunity of this media .. pretending you are flying this Boeing 747 on farstammandmant class..!!

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Let me get this in after uzi's spam. In case you forgot. TRD was incinerating villages and killing Charlie long before you put on that fake yellow school guard crossing jacket protecting what you might suspect are speeders through your school zone. I bust his stones because I've earned it. I never did what he did, but I was supporting, real time, what was going on at that time. He was a young man flying at Mach 1+ following orders. The death toll from those missions could never be confirmed. As we round the bend on that far turn in our lives, you and me also, the Commander looks at these hoped for missions with a an experienced eye, while us armchair quarterbacks can only second guess what it really entails. Don't lecture like you know what it like to kill people. Lots of them. I expect that he rolls over now and then wondering what was done and why. He talks tough, but I'm not fooled at all. Those sounds he hears are part of him. You know what? Fcuk you and him. Blah blah blah. I know .
Sorry high priest, Uzi DOES NOT post spam , its all important news and info. By the way killing commies in Nam is a privilage that TRD got a chance to do and my younger brother too. I salute them.
Too bad they did not finish the job and North Nam stayed a hell hole of a commie dictatorship.

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Now you've done it, Y..

Brother Uzi got pissed off..
..and I can understand him ..
You don't insult the eldest brother(VOP).. less than 48 hours before Uzi has the big gathering with his tribe..

Uzi, you can still tell the family that you just got your period .. and won't be able to make it this time.

We do the thing in Rehovot, leave the two ladies at home ... and drive to that joint by the US Embassy, across the beach, where all the bored and neglected French Female Tourists gather to have some low quality Israeli wine ... and forget about everything.
If we hit two of them.. I'll let you have the youngest..

Deal..??

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TRD wrote:
<quoted text>"TRD was incinerating villages..."
Et tu, Brute? I painted with a pretty broad brush but that? How long have you and Jane Fonda been married?
Don't look now but they had more wars in the ME than we did after WW2. For all we know VOP has a whole string of Arab ears hanging on his ego wall. Besides, nobody pays any attention to a bunch of old farts plotting to un-fcuk the world.
Your broad brush was actually a 24" paint roller. Too late now.

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Y and TRD .. my two brotha from anotha motha..
Feerst, I'm not lecturing ..
Seconddd.. I have never used my rusty, all bent and in need of a replacement, measuring fckkn tape ... to size anything that the USA might be doing or has done anytime in the axis of time.
All I'm doing is..
..I'm looking at my hood, where the 'kids'.. arabs and jewish .. will have to take the shit that we will leave them and with some type of alchemy (that at this moment we don't posses), convert that shit into a place where they can exist and subsist, create, work hard and progress, feed and generate substance and abundance for both of them ... and have some left to trade off for stupid things that the 'kids' on that side of the Mississipi created and let ours feel that if you don't own one ... you are an ape.
Y, because of work, I went to Khmer... many years later, out of curiosity we went to Nam...
I slept on their undersize beds, ate their food, tasted their beer, shat on their shit holes.. experienced from short range how they live, treat each other, treat others .. and as I do everywhere I go ..I also tried to understand from themselves ... what is it that they want from life.
On those latitudes yours and my measuring tapes render useless.
I can figure the Thais, I can say I'm on the process of begining to digest the Chinese that I have visited so far (haven't been yet to Tibet and the West..just to name two)... but I still have to figure the Vietnamese and the Cambodians.... and before I say that the 'Final Solution' should have been a re-run of the movie the little boy and the fat man .. in order to ascertain that they both 'liberate' themselves from their local chapter of Satan ... I will go to the kitchen and fix me the second and last cup of Made In Korea Taster's Choice coffee of the day..understanding that we haven't talked yet about 'this' shithole either.
...but you'll never catch me doing in bed the position of judging anything on that side of the Mississipi, since the Mayflower anchored at Plymouth..
Let me change the subject..
..fckk you, Y .. You don't insult VOP and hide behind the anonimity and intrinsic impunity of this media .. pretending you are flying this Boeing 747 on farstammandmant class..!!
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And I visited the Old Newgate Prison. So what? Your point is? Everybody is hiding behind "this media", arrogant prik. That's why you're here. Look behind you. See that? Your tail touching the ground? It's longer than mine.

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Sorry high priest, Uzi DOES NOT post spam , its all important news and info. By the way killing commies in Nam is a privilage that TRD got a chance to do and my younger brother too. I salute them.
Too bad they did not finish the job and North Nam stayed a hell hole of a commie dictatorship.
If your stuff is important news and info, then so is Gray's. Cut and paste tripe mostly garnered from e-mails and posted here as "news". Just smells different. LOL

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Your broad brush was actually a 24" paint roller. Too late now.
I hit my share of suspected truck parks during the first cruise but if I ever even got close to a village it was because I had Marines in contact there. I did very little close air after that deployment, instead shooting up the guys trying to shoot us down.(it was more than fair)

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Sorry high priest, Uzi DOES NOT post spam , its all important news and info. By the way killing commies in Nam is a privilage that TRD got a chance to do and my younger brother too. I salute them.
Too bad they did not finish the job and North Nam stayed a hell hole of a commie dictatorship.
Not my fault. I'd have stayed but my ride was leaving.

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<quoted text>I hit my share of suspected truck parks during the first cruise but if I ever even got close to a village it was because I had Marines in contact there. I did very little close air after that deployment, instead shooting up the guys trying to shoot us down.(it was more than fair)
I guess the word "village" may be too argumentative. I should have said Vietcong occupied village. Those would contain those trying to shoot you down. Like Bat 21. Ya know?

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I guess the word "village" may be too argumentative. I should have said Vietcong occupied village. Those would contain those trying to shoot you down. Like Bat 21. Ya know?
Argumentative?

You?

I'm not saying it could never happen, I'm just saying it's one of the situations we tried to avoid. Why do you think I got so excited reading about narrow diameter bombs? There will be variants that allow us to glide a bomb through a window, taking out the target inside without harming the people in the next apartment.

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You?
I'm not saying it could never happen, I'm just saying it's one of the situations we tried to avoid. Why do you think I got so excited reading about narrow diameter bombs? There will be variants that allow us to glide a bomb through a window, taking out the target inside without harming the people in the next apartment.
Saw something about the stocks in Europe on the rise as fear of a U.S. attack on Syria subsides. Reminds me of the days when they were ferrying chemical weapons out of Iraq into Syria before we could a coalition together to take action. History now says there were no WMD's. BS. Argumentative. Me?

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Saw something about the stocks in Europe on the rise as fear of a U.S. attack on Syria subsides. Reminds me of the days when they were ferrying chemical weapons out of Iraq into Syria before we could a coalition together to take action. History now says there were no WMD's. BS. Argumentative. Me?
The Mother of all Bamboozles. Saddam gassed the Syrians posthumously.

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