Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

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TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66742 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
Baby steps. Baby steps. The first step to living the life you want is leaving the life you donít want.
Taking the first step forward is always the hardest.
But then each step forward gets easier and easier.
And each step forward gets you closer and closer until eventually, what had once been invisible starts to be visible.
And what once felt impossible starts to feel possible.
Bless you
That's sarcasm, right?

Either way, my blessings are manifold...the love of a good woman, the sight of my children having their own children, enough to eat, a comfortable home, great friends, noble enemies...the dream.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66743 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to be OK when big one starts? There's a good chance his boys will be bringing back some B & C warfare swag from Syria. That's probably what's coming first and I wouldn't want to be down wind.
That would be interesting.
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66744 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>That's sarcasm, right?
Either way, my blessings are manifold...the love of a good woman, the sight of my children having their own children, enough to eat, a comfortable home, great friends, noble enemies...the dream.
I wanna be you. What's Ebbyl Juice?

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66746 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>That would be interesting.
There was an entire day of training dedicated to it in the Navy. Had to go in the gas chamber and take off the mask so we could demonstrate proficiency putting it back on under duress.

When was the last time you had your NBC warfare gear checked?
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66747 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
I wanna be you. What's Ebbyl Juice?
Moses.
Abraham.
Itzhak
Josef
Jesus
Apostles
Columbus
Marx
Lenin (ok, 1/4 to 1/2)
Trotsky
Einstein
Freud
Oppenheimer
Churchill (ok, honourary)
Jobs
Obama (debatable mother's side)
Putin-Medvedev (ok 1/2)

just to name a few of maaaaaaannyyyyyy

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66748 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>There was an entire day of training dedicated to it in the Navy. Had to go in the gas chamber and take off the mask so we could demonstrate proficiency putting it back on under duress.
When was the last time you had your NBC warfare gear checked?
No worries. We have our towels and water ready at all times.
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66749 Dec 20, 2012
Freedom Terrister wrote:
If not for IAF taking out 95% of the Fajr-3, Fajr-3 and IIRC even a few Zelzal rockets, Pre-launch....If NOT for 5th Iron Dome battery rushed 3 months ahead of schedule to defend Tel Aviv.... If not for the other Iron Dome taking 450+ of heavier, extended range-Chinese grads projected to be heading for the THE heart of Israeli populaces in other towns.... Israeli casulties would have been in 100's, including wounded. That would have big blow to the morale & economy -- and would have left Israeli governmet NO choice but to under-take a VERY expensive, prolonged land operation in Gaza.... Wow, talk about life-saver, in the billions of dollar range!
So ID, as immature and incomplete as its lay-out still is, already paid for itself just during Amud Anan alone!
(nevermind that its cost were de-frayed by American Foreign Military Aid + addityional Congressional cash outlays...So even before export, Iron Dome is already breaking even, if not running a surplus of sorts, LOL But I digress)
Correction: "If not for IAF taking out 95% of the Fajr-3, FAJR-5 and IIRC even a few Zelzal rockets..."

Fajr-3 is mean, but Fajr-5 and Zelzal that's some bad-ass rocketry -- in the context of a terror group targetting city centers, that is. Then again, I never liked the idea of dismissevely referring to Hezbollah or HAMAS as jihadi gangs; that kind of complacent disregard is what led to 2LW. In fact pound-for-pound they are better armed for urban/guerilla warfare than most regular armies! And unlike other conventional armies, these 'roided-up Islamic DON'T play by the rules, honour, Geneva Conventions or all the other fancy infidel trappings....They've turned the whole "human shield" phenomenon into an art-form -- and far from feeling ashamed of hiding behind their own women & children, they BOAST about it. Sick, sick, sick.

Anywho. Qassams filled with nails, ball-bearings dipped in AIDS patient bodily fluids... is one thing. Few 100's dollars. Some of the extended-range Chinese Grads can them into the 1,000s -- especially now that Sinai bedouin smugglers are feeling the heat from Obama/Clinton/Morsi guarantees and less tunnels-available for the next few months. And considering that because of Iron Dome, you need a lot of them for barrages; plus building new underground launchers, with fairly expensive timing/targetting equipment.... the whole cost equation is beginning to shift. Compared to the cheap Qassam days, anyway....

Then figure in the billion+ dollar costs of rebuilding Gaza, all kinds of infrastructure, terror or otherwise......and the overall cost per-fire shoots up dramatically.
And then there are the Fajr-3, Fajr-5 and Zelzal. Much harder to replenish, MUCH more expensive when you fihure in the "passage & re-assembly" costs.

Especially now that aformentioned tragic head-on car accident in Sudan that prematurely ended the lives of Factor and Storage Depot....

In short.... do NOT believe any jihadi-tard echo-chamber goofballs who tells you how Hamas is going to bankrupt Israel with rocket fire. They literally don't know what they are talking about!

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66750 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>No worries. We have our towels and water ready at all times.
Attaboy! Keep it simple...I'm sure everything will turn out all right.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66751 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Attaboy! Keep it simple...I'm sure everything will turn out all right.
Like we always say in Palestine, safety comes first.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66752 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> Like we always say in Palestine, safety comes first.
None of that rubberized crap lasts very long anyway. Ahmad bin MacGyver to the rescue.
Ize Lost

Naugatuck, CT

#66753 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>There was an entire day of training dedicated to it in the Navy. Had to go in the gas chamber and take off the mask so we could demonstrate proficiency putting it back on under duress.
When was the last time you had your NBC warfare gear checked?
Us taking off our masks to ingest teargas hardly compares to what these fcukers have at their disposal. And, if used, Ahmad's water and towels won't matter. The reprisal will be in hard shrapnel and a little flame. See ya!
Ize Lost

Naugatuck, CT

#66754 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> Like we always say in Palestine, safety comes first.
Really? They dispense condoms? Eeewwww. The visual of latex meeting redundant skin folds is unimaginable.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66755 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
Us taking off our masks to ingest teargas hardly compares to what these fcukers have at their disposal. And, if used, Ahmad's water and towels won't matter. The reprisal will be in hard shrapnel and a little flame. See ya!
Shhhhhhh! I didn't want to unnecessarily distress the boy. I didn't have the heart to tell him that the reason the stuff doesn't last too long is because after one use it's disposed of during decontamination. Besides, his wet towels will be helpful when they're trying to locate the victim's bodies.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66756 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Shhhhhhh! I didn't want to unnecessarily distress the boy. I didn't have the heart to tell him that the reason the stuff doesn't last too long is because after one use it's disposed of during decontamination. Besides, his wet towels will be helpful when they're trying to locate the victim's bodies.
We don't need masks when we have the biggest Baby Jesus in the world on our side.
http://www.maannews.net/arb/ViewDetails.aspx...
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66757 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>That's sarcasm, right?
Either way, my blessings are manifold...the love of a good woman, the sight of my children having their own children, enough to eat, a comfortable home, great friends, noble enemies...the dream.
TRD,

Lest you get offended and think that I call you "Rinnisons Man" with tongue firmly planted in cheek --- nevermind, pejoratively...

Let me explain. Granted, when I started to post here during Castlead, I probably already had a spark of an inkling, if not iron-clad certitude that my life was gonna go in a DIFFERENT direction than conventional wisdom or wishes of my family would dictate... And, just so we're clear, I certainly DON'T lack for role model(s) in "real" life.

But I would be remiss if I didn't mention the constructive role that you played in my formative years. For one, you are proving F. Scott Fitzgerald wrong --- there is in fact, 2nd act in American Life.

The "Rinnisons Man" part more specifically refers to the fact that seemingly you have your toe dipped into so many different bodies of water... and somehow manage to pull if off rather gracefully without drowing --- at least judging by the anonymity-based impression/composite that's emerged over the years. Correct me if I am wrong.

(Now, of course you could be some psycho, fraud, or whatever, but whatevet, I just don't think so -- and besides, I do NOT want to live in a world where I can't trust peolple or take them for their word.)

Now I've already made one 180-degrees leap of faith, to mix a few metaphors, once -- I mean, who knew that most of my grow-up friends would be Liberals and Libertarians, that Fine/Performance Arts is where the sausage will get made .... but your Rinnisons Man example, among others, has probably eased the transition.

For instance: it works the other way too -- just because I'm in a dynamic "humanities" mode now, does NOT mean that I can't keep up with some of my old "hard-ass" intersts like sports, politics, military affairs. Maybe even business/finance sometime down the line, reallllly down the line, LOL...

I think "Rinnisons Man/Woman" is something that's increasingly rare in modern world, and it's definately something to strive for (if not quite attain -- or, else, "what's Heaven for?" :)

I hope it made sense. Sorry for a poor Englishing.

PS. Now, before you get too full of yourself, Commander...for the record, LWScienceJunkie also taught me some things by example. Heck, look at Ize -- the guy is much smarter and more rounded than he pretends/gives himself credit for. And I hate to admit it, but NaNa has had a positive effect in way I'd rather not share now, too. Credit where due.

So thanks all.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66758 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> We don't need masks when we have the biggest Baby Jesus in the world on our side.
http://www.maannews.net/arb/ViewDetails.aspx...
Allegedly.

That's a monumental baby Jesus all right. Please forgive my snickering at the double irony of:

A. A giant baby.

B. A bunch of Christians and Muslims fixating on a Jew.

And the bonus irony of Arabs believing that Guinness records will somehow legitimize a state. For example "...Look honey, there's the National Kanafeh of Palestine! Those Palestinians sure know their desserts!". What's next, World's largest Hummus bowl?
Ize Lost

Naugatuck, CT

#66759 Dec 20, 2012
Freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
TRD,
Lest you get offended and think that I call you "Rinnisons Man" with tongue firmly planted in cheek --- nevermind, pejoratively...
Let me explain. Granted, when I started to post here during Castlead, I probably already had a spark of an inkling, if not iron-clad certitude that my life was gonna go in a DIFFERENT direction than conventional wisdom or wishes of my family would dictate... And, just so we're clear, I certainly DON'T lack for role model(s) in "real" life.
But I would be remiss if I didn't mention the constructive role that you played in my formative years. For one, you are proving F. Scott Fitzgerald wrong --- there is in fact, 2nd act in American Life.
The "Rinnisons Man" part more specifically refers to the fact that seemingly you have your toe dipped into so many different bodies of water... and somehow manage to pull if off rather gracefully without drowing --- at least judging by the anonymity-based impression/composite that's emerged over the years. Correct me if I am wrong.
(Now, of course you could be some psycho, fraud, or whatever, but whatevet, I just don't think so -- and besides, I do NOT want to live in a world where I can't trust peolple or take them for their word.)
Now I've already made one 180-degrees leap of faith, to mix a few metaphors, once -- I mean, who knew that most of my grow-up friends would be Liberals and Libertarians, that Fine/Performance Arts is where the sausage will get made .... but your Rinnisons Man example, among others, has probably eased the transition.
For instance: it works the other way too -- just because I'm in a dynamic "humanities" mode now, does NOT mean that I can't keep up with some of my old "hard-ass" intersts like sports, politics, military affairs. Maybe even business/finance sometime down the line, reallllly down the line, LOL...
I think "Rinnisons Man/Woman" is something that's increasingly rare in modern world, and it's definately something to strive for (if not quite attain -- or, else, "what's Heaven for?" :)
I hope it made sense. Sorry for a poor Englishing.
PS. Now, before you get too full of yourself, Commander...for the record, LWScienceJunkie also taught me some things by example. Heck, look at Ize -- the guy is much smarter and more rounded than he pretends/gives himself credit for. And I hate to admit it, but NaNa has had a positive effect in way I'd rather not share now, too. Credit where due.
So thanks all.
He is a classy guy, no doubt. But, money will do that to you. My draw is his combat experience and the education required to get there. Other than that, he suks. ;>)

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66760 Dec 20, 2012
Freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
TRD,
Lest you get offended and think that I call you "Rinnisons Man" with tongue firmly planted in cheek --- nevermind, pejoratively...
Let me explain. Granted, when I started to post here during Castlead, I probably already had a spark of an inkling, if not iron-clad certitude that my life was gonna go in a DIFFERENT direction than conventional wisdom or wishes of my family would dictate... And, just so we're clear, I certainly DON'T lack for role model(s) in "real" life.
But I would be remiss if I didn't mention the constructive role that you played in my formative years. For one, you are proving F. Scott Fitzgerald wrong --- there is in fact, 2nd act in American Life.
The "Rinnisons Man" part more specifically refers to the fact that seemingly you have your toe dipped into so many different bodies of water... and somehow manage to pull if off rather gracefully without drowing --- at least judging by the anonymity-based impression/composite that's emerged over the years. Correct me if I am wrong.
(Now, of course you could be some psycho, fraud, or whatever, but whatevet, I just don't think so -- and besides, I do NOT want to live in a world where I can't trust peolple or take them for their word.)
Now I've already made one 180-degrees leap of faith, to mix a few metaphors, once -- I mean, who knew that most of my grow-up friends would be Liberals and Libertarians, that Fine/Performance Arts is where the sausage will get made .... but your Rinnisons Man example, among others, has probably eased the transition.
For instance: it works the other way too -- just because I'm in a dynamic "humanities" mode now, does NOT mean that I can't keep up with some of my old "hard-ass" intersts like sports, politics, military affairs. Maybe even business/finance sometime down the line, reallllly down the line, LOL...
I think "Rinnisons Man/Woman" is something that's increasingly rare in modern world, and it's definately something to strive for (if not quite attain -- or, else, "what's Heaven for?" :)
I hope it made sense. Sorry for a poor Englishing.
PS. Now, before you get too full of yourself, Commander...for the record, LWScienceJunkie also taught me some things by example. Heck, look at Ize -- the guy is much smarter and more rounded than he pretends/gives himself credit for. And I hate to admit it, but NaNa has had a positive effect in way I'd rather not share now, too. Credit where due.
So thanks all.
Before it gets lost...you're welcome. And please accept my thanks for all the time you've spent educating and entertaining us. I know you and Ahmad still lead hectic lives while those of us on the back nine are able to do more relaxing. Trust me, you'll have plenty of time for that later (as long as we make it through the Mayan night intact) but there's never enough time for learning.

Aside from some good-natured ribbing where truth temporarily took a back seat, I've tried to walk it like I talk it. If I have ever stretched the truth in fun, I hope I subsequently made it clear that I was joking. You seem to know where you're going and I admire that in a person. I'm sure that wherever you end up you'll excel.

One thing though, liberal should never be confused with libertarian.

Ever.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66761 Dec 20, 2012
And for the record: LW is my favorite science teacher.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66762 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
He is a classy guy, no doubt. But, money will do that to you. My draw is his combat experience and the education required to get there. Other than that, he suks. ;>)
I wub you too <sniff>.

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