Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as ...

Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire

There are 70149 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 18, 2009, titled Israeli troops begin Gaza pullout as Hamas declares cease-fire. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Israeli troops began withdrawing from the Gaza Strip on Sunday after Hamas declared a cease-fire, setting the stage for intensified international efforts to arrange a durable truce after a 22-day war against ...

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Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#66726 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on Nasrallah starting up some shit with Israel almost immediately.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/world/middl...
Now that he's up against the Sunni leprechaun division he needs a diversion in the worst way.
Dont bet.This time if Nazirallah sticks his head out of his shithole he is dead meat including his whole terror horde. Netanyahu is not going to pussyfoot around like Olmert especially when hitting them real hard works every time. Did you see any attacks from Gaza?? not me. Did you see any missiles from Lebanon? Not me. I think they got the message. Looks to me that if Assad of Syria falls the nazirallahs in Lebanon will be massacred by the Lebanese to the last one of them. This way they clear the way to each of the sects to kill each other in Lebanon as before and as the traditional muslim way goes, kill kill kill.
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66727 Dec 20, 2012
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, right on.
The Iron Dome wedding .
A wedding photographer in Beer Sheba , capital of southern Israel was doing his job while the missile alarm went on. All went to seek shelter , him too, but he left his camera rolling, the results are here. Beautiful. How that defense system works is just amazing!!! Go IDF go!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/8kAyqbKwd1o...
The "seek shelter" part is good; the retarded gawking at ID intercepts fireworks like a sporting event... is not.

For instance: if that family in Kiryat Malachi living in that old building had listened to IDF and had gone into the the stairwell area, they would have been unscathed. In the first days, ID battery wasn't re-calibrated to cover KM. But even if it would have been, Iron Dome is not 100% dealing with simulteneous barrages. That's why it's important to heed IDF instructions. Instead, KM folk decided to gawk at the windows ---> BOOM, a direct extended-range Chinese-Grad into their living room, 3 adults dead. They are lucky their children survived.

Another Israeli-Bedouin and IDF soldier near the border died at the end of fighting when they couldn't take cover. And that's about it for Israeli casualties, which is stunningly low considering that Hamas rate-of-fire was at times actually HIGHER than Hezbollah's in 2006! And Hamas & PIJ had fairly sophisticated Iranian under-ground launchers, with specialized tagetting & timing equipment ---> all intended to maximize Israeli civilian deaths.

If not for IAF taking out 95% of the Fajr-3, Fajr-3 and IIRC even a few Zelzal rockets, Pre-launch....If NOT for 5th Iron Dome battery rushed 3 months ahead of schedule to defend Tel Aviv.... If not for the other Iron Dome taking 450+ of heavier, extended range-Chinese grads projected to be heading for the THE heart of Israeli populaces in other towns.... Israeli casulties would have been in 100's, including wounded. That would have big blow to the morale & economy -- and would have left Israeli governmet NO choice but to under-take a VERY expensive, prolonged land operation in Gaza.... Wow, talk about life-saver, in the billions of dollar range!

So ID, as immature and incomplete as its lay-out still is, already paid for itself just during Amud Anan alone!

(nevermind that its cost were de-frayed by American Foreign Military Aid + addityional Congressional cash outlays...So even before export, Iron Dome is already breaking even, if not running a surplus of sorts, LOL But I digress)

their clueless

Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#66728 Dec 20, 2012
Tough footage to watch, be warned.
, Pals under the cruel Israeli Zionist occupation are forced to live in structures like those. All this is on the West Bank. Be warned , tough footage.

It's basically just saying "these are the homes the&#65279; Palestinians have to live in under cruel Zionist oppression."

&fe ature=youtu.
Uzi

Kfar Saba, Israel

#66729 Dec 20, 2012
Freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
The "seek shelter" part is good; the retarded gawking at ID intercepts fireworks like a sporting event... is not.
For instance: if that family in Kiryat Malachi living in that old building had listened to IDF and had gone into the the stairwell area, they would have been unscathed. In the first days, ID battery wasn't re-calibrated to cover KM. But even if it would have been, Iron Dome is not 100% dealing with simulteneous barrages. That's why it's important to heed IDF instructions. Instead, KM folk decided to gawk at the windows ---> BOOM, a direct extended-range Chinese-Grad into their living room, 3 adults dead. They are lucky their children survived.
Another Israeli-Bedouin and IDF soldier near the border died at the end of fighting when they couldn't take cover. And that's about it for Israeli casualties, which is stunningly low considering that Hamas rate-of-fire was at times actually HIGHER than Hezbollah's in 2006! And Hamas & PIJ had fairly sophisticated Iranian under-ground launchers, with specialized tagetting & timing equipment ---> all intended to maximize Israeli civilian deaths.
If not for IAF taking out 95% of the Fajr-3, Fajr-3 and IIRC even a few Zelzal rockets, Pre-launch....If NOT for 5th Iron Dome battery rushed 3 months ahead of schedule to defend Tel Aviv.... If not for the other Iron Dome taking 450+ of heavier, extended range-Chinese grads projected to be heading for the THE heart of Israeli populaces in other towns.... Israeli casulties would have been in 100's, including wounded. That would have big blow to the morale & economy -- and would have left Israeli governmet NO choice but to under-take a VERY expensive, prolonged land operation in Gaza.... Wow, talk about life-saver, in the billions of dollar range!
So ID, as immature and incomplete as its lay-out still is, already paid for itself just during Amud Anan alone!
(nevermind that its cost were de-frayed by American Foreign Military Aid + addityional Congressional cash outlays...So even before export, Iron Dome is already breaking even, if not running a surplus of sorts, LOL But I digress)
their clueless
Bravo, you read your books and papers. Left out a little detail, most of the cost the Iron Dome was paid (happily) by another foreign country with the promise that if it really works they will be allowed to by them first. That was the deal. Eurika!!! It works!!!
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66730 Dec 20, 2012
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Dont bet.This time if Nazirallah sticks his head out of his shithole he is dead meat including his whole terror horde. Netanyahu is not going to pussyfoot around like Olmert especially when hitting them real hard works every time. Did you see any attacks from Gaza?? not me. Did you see any missiles from Lebanon? Not me. I think they got the message. Looks to me that if Assad of Syria falls the nazirallahs in Lebanon will be massacred by the Lebanese to the last one of them. This way they clear the way to each of the sects to kill each other in Lebanon as before and as the traditional muslim way goes, kill kill kill.
Easy there, killa.

I am not saying that Nasrallah is a good guy, mind you -- and his last name DOES literally mean "she took a sh*t" in Russian....

But why would Israel want him dead at this point? Unlike Imad Mugniye, General Mohammad Suleiman, Yahya Hayash, Ahmed Ja'abari or even the Iranian weapons-running liaison Mahmoud al-Mahbouh ----- who actually had irreplaceable organizational & techinical talent.... Nasrallah is just a FIGURE-HEAD at this point.

In fact, much like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad... Nasrallah is a GIFT that keeps on giving ----> every time he opens his fat mouth and proceeds to deliver another braggadocio-laden fire-and-brimstone sermon against "Ebbyl Juices"..... not only does that strenghten Right-wing hawks in parties inside Israel, it also forces even other (Western) countries who don't even normally like or agree with Israel's policy, to suddenly remember that "hey, Israel really IS the good, sane party here!"

Plus, with Sunni Spring on the march across the greater region... I am not entirely certain that it would be a good idea for Hezbollah/Assad/Iran to take their balls and go home, so to speak. Yes, Iran's nuke should and ARE being addressed as we speak, but that aside, it wouldn't be altogether bad idea for Shiite's to put up a fight against Sunni rebels for the next, oh, shall we say 1 to 10 years...

(As long as the implicit understanding exists that one wrong move toward Israel -----> and the party is OVAH!)

In other words, with EU still hesitating to put Hezbollah political-wing on terrorist List .... go Fattie McTourette's, go! I mean, go Nasrallah go, get your ya-yas against 'March 15' out! More fire rhetoric, more passion, more foaming I say! Woot-woot!
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66731 Dec 20, 2012
Uzi wrote:
<quoted text>
Bravo, you read your books and papers. Left out a little detail, most of the cost the Iron Dome was paid (happily) by another foreign country with the promise that if it really works they will be allowed to by them first. That was the deal. Eurika!!! It works!!!
Please learn to read. I clearly mentioned even WITHOUT accounting for ID's export potential (whether US, India, South Korea, Singapore, Colombia, etc). That a whole another subject.

My post was aimed at the many tards & nay-sayers who were all "ooh, Iron Dome is unproven, it's not possible, Tamir costs too much...laser is the way to go, mmkay!!!!"

LOL, when all counted.... ID has aleady saved billion(s) during, what, the 6-7 flare-ups with Gaza since March 2011.

Everything else is gravy at this point. And the system is not even 1/3 deployed and still quite operationally immature. Which means we haven't even seen it at its best! I mean, the legendary Russian S-300 and American Patriot family, they were developed on massive budgets since 1960's and by late 1970's they were already operational, undergoing several upgrades & modificatins in the ensuing decades..... Whereas Iron Dome was a toally unproven concept, then after only 2 years of development --> and it's baptism by fire in 2011! Wow.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66733 Dec 20, 2012
Uzi wrote:
Tough footage to watch, be warned.
, Pals under the cruel Israeli Zionist occupation are forced to live in structures like those. All this is on the West Bank. Be warned , tough footage.
It's basically just saying "these are the homes the&#65279; Palestinians have to live in under cruel Zionist oppression."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =gdmz3n884aYXX&feature=you tu.
You heartless basterds! LET THEM LIVE!

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66735 Dec 20, 2012
Rambone wrote:
<quoted text>
You're a FU*K*NG JACKASS you mo-fo blood sucking Parasite!
It's OK, he forgot to take his pills today.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66736 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
If I were a betting man, I'd put my money on Nasrallah starting up some shit with Israel almost immediately.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/world/middl...
Now that he's up against the Sunni leprechaun division he needs a diversion in the worst way.
Funny. I made a leprechaun joke in my head before I read the rest of your post. Heh.

Here's hoping Nassrallah starts a new war. God knows the Middle East needs one.
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66737 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>
It's OK, he forgot to take his pills today.
You know he ain't paying for the band width. It was very nice of you to acknowledge an old acquaintance's presence in a civil manner. My how you have grown. 8<)
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66738 Dec 20, 2012
voice of peace wrote:
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zwanzig..
.
Had this old ditty lying around in my library and it still holds true today:

What happens when a fly falls into a coffee cup?

The Italian - throws the cup and walks away in a fit of rage.

The Frenchman - takes out the fly, and drinks the coffee.

The Turk - eats the fly and throws away the coffee.

The Greek - drinks the coffee with the fly, since it was extra with no charge.

The Israeli - sells the coffee to the Frenchman, the fly to the Turk, buys himself a new cup of coffee and uses the extra money to invent a device that prevents flies from falling into coffee.

The Palestinian - blames the Israeli for the fly falling in his coffee, protests the act of aggression to the UN, takes a loan from the European Union to buy a new cup of coffee, uses the money to purchase explosives And then blows up the coffee house where the Italian, the Frenchman, The Turk, and the Greek are all trying to explain to the Israeli that he should give away his cup of coffee to the Palestinian.

Did you like it? Do you remember it? What's up the road, a piece? Would you rather walk to school or carry your lunch? Do dogs bark?
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66739 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>You heartless basterds! LET THEM LIVE!
Baby steps. Baby steps. The first step to living the life you want is leaving the life you donít want.

Taking the first step forward is always the hardest.

But then each step forward gets easier and easier.

And each step forward gets you closer and closer until eventually, what had once been invisible starts to be visible.

And what once felt impossible starts to feel possible.

Bless you

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66740 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text> Funny. I made a leprechaun joke in my head before I read the rest of your post. Heh.
Here's hoping Nassrallah starts a new war. God knows the Middle East needs one.
Are you going to be OK when big one starts? There's a good chance his boys will be bringing back some B & C warfare swag from Syria. That's probably what's coming first and I wouldn't want to be down wind.
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66741 Dec 20, 2012
Freedom Terrister wrote:
<quoted text>
Please learn to read. I clearly mentioned even WITHOUT accounting for ID's export potential (whether US, India, South Korea, Singapore, Colombia, etc). That a whole another subject.
My post was aimed at the many tards & nay-sayers who were all "ooh, Iron Dome is unproven, it's not possible, Tamir costs too much...laser is the way to go, mmkay!!!!"
LOL, when all counted.... ID has aleady saved billion(s) during, what, the 6-7 flare-ups with Gaza since March 2011.
Everything else is gravy at this point. And the system is not even 1/3 deployed and still quite operationally immature. Which means we haven't even seen it at its best! I mean, the legendary Russian S-300 and American Patriot family, they were developed on massive budgets since 1960's and by late 1970's they were already operational, undergoing several upgrades & modificatins in the ensuing decades..... Whereas Iron Dome was a toally unproven concept, then after only 2 years of development --> and it's baptism by fire in 2011! Wow.
What is "Ebbyl"? Google's no help. I don't want to over analyze.

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66742 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
Baby steps. Baby steps. The first step to living the life you want is leaving the life you donít want.
Taking the first step forward is always the hardest.
But then each step forward gets easier and easier.
And each step forward gets you closer and closer until eventually, what had once been invisible starts to be visible.
And what once felt impossible starts to feel possible.
Bless you
That's sarcasm, right?

Either way, my blessings are manifold...the love of a good woman, the sight of my children having their own children, enough to eat, a comfortable home, great friends, noble enemies...the dream.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66743 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>Are you going to be OK when big one starts? There's a good chance his boys will be bringing back some B & C warfare swag from Syria. That's probably what's coming first and I wouldn't want to be down wind.
That would be interesting.
Ize Lost

Wallingford, CT

#66744 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>That's sarcasm, right?
Either way, my blessings are manifold...the love of a good woman, the sight of my children having their own children, enough to eat, a comfortable home, great friends, noble enemies...the dream.
I wanna be you. What's Ebbyl Juice?

TRD

“The Real Deal”

Since: Apr 09

Central Florida

#66746 Dec 20, 2012
Soy de Palestina wrote:
<quoted text>That would be interesting.
There was an entire day of training dedicated to it in the Navy. Had to go in the gas chamber and take off the mask so we could demonstrate proficiency putting it back on under duress.

When was the last time you had your NBC warfare gear checked?
Freedom Terrister

Chicago, IL

#66747 Dec 20, 2012
Ize Lost wrote:
<quoted text>
I wanna be you. What's Ebbyl Juice?
Moses.
Abraham.
Itzhak
Josef
Jesus
Apostles
Columbus
Marx
Lenin (ok, 1/4 to 1/2)
Trotsky
Einstein
Freud
Oppenheimer
Churchill (ok, honourary)
Jobs
Obama (debatable mother's side)
Putin-Medvedev (ok 1/2)

just to name a few of maaaaaaannyyyyyy

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#66748 Dec 20, 2012
TRD wrote:
<quoted text>There was an entire day of training dedicated to it in the Navy. Had to go in the gas chamber and take off the mask so we could demonstrate proficiency putting it back on under duress.
When was the last time you had your NBC warfare gear checked?
No worries. We have our towels and water ready at all times.

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