Peddlers balk at move

Full story: Chicago Tribune

Sidewalk peddlers who hawk peanuts, T-shirts and novelty items outside Wrigley Field reacted angrily Friday to an alderman's proposal to move them two blocks from the ballpark, saying that they not only add to game-day excitement but also need to earn a living.
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Oscar

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#44
Jul 4, 2009
 
The shops and local tax paying vendors were losing money. Complaints to local politicians helped to make the final decision.
Stone cold

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#45
Jul 4, 2009
 
The vendors aren't the problem. License them, OK, and protect copyrights -- but beynd that, leave them alone.

The problem is the people -- not all of them kids -- who drum on those plastic buckets during the game and for an hour-plus afterward. The noise carries into the ballpark (as if that incessant organ weren't enough), adding nothing to the ambience; outside the park it makes conversation impossible; and I can only imagine the joy that drumming brings to residents.

If they can't be banished, at LEAST keep them silent until the games are over.

Awful.

lago

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#46
Jul 4, 2009
 
Buffalo Billy wrote:
Oh, and Piano Man bar, they have those foreign female bartenders, they tend to short change out of towners, close that place down too.
Nooo way. I celebrated my graduation from the SAIC. Stop pushing the classics of the hood out!

If you don't like it don't go there.
Chris W

Chicago, IL

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#47
Jul 4, 2009
 
If you had to watch the Cubs you'd be drunk too.
Not Stupid

Chicago, IL

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#48
Jul 4, 2009
 
Tunney- another crook alderman. Wasting time on BS laws and ignoring real problems.*EVERYONE* knows he is taking a payoff from some brick and mortar vendor for this.

Hey Tunney, are you reading these comments? Please note 43 of 44 essentially call you a scumbag, which as an alderman, you are by default.
Impeach n-O-b-a-m-a

Elgin, IL

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#49
Jul 4, 2009
 
While impeaching n-O-b-a-m-a, how about all 50 of A-Men in the city council and Dickie while we are at it?

All of them Chi-Town blank-heads.
Lone Ranger

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#50
Jul 4, 2009
 
Most of their inventory is illegal reproductions of copywriten MLB intellectual property. The city has the right to regulate commerce as they see fit. How many of these guys have ever files an ST-1 report with the state as required by law, or even declared a single cent on their fedewral income tax. All they do is obstruct the public ways and cut into the income of legitimate retailers in this area. enact and enforce a 1000 foot rule like the other stadiums in this town.
bubba

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#51
Jul 4, 2009
 
This is your classic example of big business using the govt. to squash competition. These ballpark owners pig at the public trough when they need funds for a stadium. Then turn around and try squash the little guy.
bubba

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#52
Jul 4, 2009
 
ps. I think Obama is doing a great job. Cleaning up the Republican mess !

Since: Oct 07

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#53
Jul 4, 2009
 
Lone Ranger wrote:
Most of their inventory is illegal reproductions of copywriten MLB intellectual property. The city has the right to regulate commerce as they see fit. How many of these guys have ever files an ST-1 report with the state as required by law, or even declared a single cent on their fedewral income tax. All they do is obstruct the public ways and cut into the income of legitimate retailers in this area. enact and enforce a 1000 foot rule like the other stadiums in this town.
Is this Tunney, a Tunney bag man, a Tunney support who has paid under the table money to get his or her way downtown in City Hall, or just someone who wants to pick on the little guy?

Most of their inventory is illegal reproductions of copywriten MLB intellectual property.
- That is MLBs problem and a law enforcement issue and has nothing to do with regulating a legal commercial channel.

The city has the right to regulate commerce as they see fit.
- The vendors are already required to get permits. The city does not have the right to interfere as it sees fit. I believe habeas corpus protect us from against arbitrary state action, which Daley and this thugs must hate.

How many of these guys have ever files an ST-1 report with the state as required by law, or even declared a single cent on their fedewral income tax.
- That is Internal Revenue Service problem on a individual by individual basis. The same could be said for most Alderman of this city.

All they do is obstruct the public ways and cut into the income of legitimate retailers in this area.
- The drunks that flock around the legitimate and licensed bars are the ones that obstruct the public way.

enact and enforce a 1000 foot rule like the other stadiums in this town.
- The vendors are already barred from the sidewalks on the ballpark's perimeter along Addison and Clark Streets and Waveland and Sheffield Avenues, all public right of ways, by the way.

Honestly, on this the day as we celebrate a revolution to free ourselves from oppressive government and the struggle for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, it is APPALLING that a small time in the pocket alderman would stoop to pick on citizens who try and make an extra buck a few days a year. And to couch that effort under the guise of safety is an insult.
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#54
Jul 4, 2009
 
Jack wrote:
They should ask Obama for welfare handouts. Everyone around Comiskey Park is doing it.
And the winner of the "It doesn't belong here" award goes to "Jack". Leave it to a scared conservative loser, to post his political rantings here. Face it your kind is out of date. Get a life.
martiniduck

Aurora, IL

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#55
Jul 4, 2009
 
Pelon wrote:
Wrigley Field is a dump! It should be torn down and a new ballpark made!
The Cubs NEVER won a championship there and NEVER will!
If the Yankees can tear down their old dump after 26 World Series victories and put up a new place! Then the Cubs have no excuse!
Maybe that will end the World Series curse! Until then, enjoy the cellar!
Jealous White Sox fans always have to post on Cubs articles. It is so sad. You never see Cubs fans doing that. I almost feel sorry for them.
martiniduck

Aurora, IL

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#56
Jul 4, 2009
 
Man wrote:
****.... Stupid mobile routing IP has me coming up as being in New Jersey. Whatever... I'm a life long south sider from 55th and Lawndale! Go Sox!
Too bad you would be better of in NJ.
Keith

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#57
Jul 4, 2009
 
I will be moving in a few months. I own a house in the city and considered moving back to save money. Crap like this keeps me in the burbs.
Tom Polston

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#58
Jul 4, 2009
 
How about going after the revenue from all of the people that have people pay to park in their garages?
Tom Polston

Springfield, IL

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#59
Jul 4, 2009
 
Sorry, should have been more clear, I mean the citizens in the area that park people in their home garages...
Jack

Chicago, IL

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#60
Jul 4, 2009
 
The peddlers should have worked harder in life to go into a career that doesn't cater on hawking garbage to tourists. Seriously, what choices did you make in life that led you to that line of work? It's like asking a black man on the southside to pay child support, stupid request I know.

Since: Jan 09

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#61
Jul 5, 2009
 
Rick wrote:
Unbelievable,
A white sox fan that can only make a living off of the Cub Fans. What happened, White Sox Fans don't buy anything? Oh, I forgot, they don't show up for the game because they are smarter then Cub Fans..
"If they do this, we will all be out of work," said Joe Sienkiewicz, 46, a self-described White Sox fan and T-shirt purveyor. "We have families. We have children."
If you'd actually read the article, you'd know that they've already banned vendors from anywhere near the Sox park. The place is like a military zone. Wrigley is in the middle of a neighborhood, full of public space, and as you can see, even the neighbors don't have a problem with the vendors.

As for nearby stores losing business to vendors, that's a load. None of those stores carry the short-run tshirts or cheap peanuts that most of these vendors are selling.

Does anyone know if this ban would include the vans that set up across the street? Or that giant rack that goes up just north of Waveland?

Since: Jan 09

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#62
Jul 5, 2009
 
Jack wrote:
The peddlers should have worked harder in life to go into a career that doesn't cater on hawking garbage to tourists. Seriously, what choices did you make in life that led you to that line of work? It's like asking a black man on the southside to pay child support, stupid request I know.
You know nothing about vendors. Did you ever think that there's more to it than "hawking garbage to tourists?"

Some of the guys are selling original Tshirt designs; rather than try to get a small percentage from a giant shirt company, they print their own art and sell directly to the public. That's pretty darn creative and entrepreneurial.

Peanut vendors have a decent markup on wholesale prices, but they still give a better price than inside the park. Practically a public service. They work very hard, and some have arrangements to work on private property near the field.

Personally, I'm a face painter. My license is for street performing since I don't have an inventory...but I'm just as banned...first from the immediate sidewalk and now from the whole area. I'm not competing with any local businesses...no one offers anything like it. I'm mobile and I don't block pedestrian traffic.

I've worked very hard in life to be a self-employed artist, and this is what I do for a living. Not all my income is from tips at games (street performers can't have set prices according to the license rules)...I also paint at parties and events, and I'm a professional graphic designer. Who the heck are you to criticize my "choices in life" that lead me to paint kids at ballgames?

I love my work. I didn't "end up" doing it. I don't think many other vendors "ended up" doing it either. We just choose to make a living in a non-traditional way.

Until now, being an independent vendor has been a wonderful example of the entrepreneurial freedom we have in America. I've always been proud that I could work at what I love, and make money by making my own opportunities.

We are not begging. We are not demanding something for nothing. We are not breaking any laws...in fact we have bent over backwards to *follow* the laws regarding our licensing and our restricted areas. But as that restricted area gets expanded outward, our freedom to earn a living gets pushed out.

It's downright un-American.
CrosstownteesDOT com

Chicago, IL

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#63
Jul 5, 2009
 
chicagofish wrote:
Agreed! This is ridiculous. Bad enough to be kicked off the public sidewalk next to the field...an area that belongs to the city and therefore is supposed to allow vendors and street performers, but two blocks? We might as well be a mile away, because nobody stops to buy anything two blocks before Wrigley...they're in too much of a hurry to get to the park because they had to leave their car eight miles away rather than pay $40 or $50 near the field?
How about a crackdown on people who *don't* have city licenses? Like homeless beggars and ticket scalpers (often the same people?) While were at it, those guys who "sell" the Onion and play on people who are used to buying from Streetwise vendors?
You want revenue? Start fining drunks for jaywalking all over Clark after games...treating it like it's their own personal carnival midway instead of the busy street that it is.
But no, Tunney wants to shut down the people who played by the rules and bought city licenses...in the middle of the season no less.
Thanks a pantload.
You definitely know whats going on. I am curioud to knoe how much Sports World on Clark n Addison contributes to Tunneys Campaign.?? anyone know? Freedom of information act!

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