Berwyn alderman in court over inciden...

Berwyn alderman in court over incident with Wal-Mart guard

There are 121 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Oct 7, 2008, titled Berwyn alderman in court over incident with Wal-Mart guard. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

A Berwyn alderman who had a run-in with the Berwyn city collector this summer is accused of disorderly conduct under a village ordinance in neighboring Forest Park .

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#1 Oct 7, 2008
If he's too important to hand over his receipt, why is he shopping at Walmart? Sounds like he needs an attitude adjustment....having a hissy fit at Walmart! Too funny....

United States

#2 Oct 7, 2008
everyone leaving walmart has to show their receipt . this jerk is better than the rest of us so he thinks .i guess elected officials think they have a lot of power that is why this country is in the shape that it is. this jerk needs a 2x4 across the head

Chicago, IL

#3 Oct 7, 2008
I'm sure this will help his re-election campaign!

Wow, this guy sounds like a really classy guy, especially since these incidents have happened before. I feel sorry for his family. Sounds like the whole being an Alderman in Berwyn thing is really, really boosting his ego!
hot head

Elmhurst, IL

#4 Oct 7, 2008
somebody needs to take a chill pill and resign.

Chicago, IL

#5 Oct 7, 2008
Phelan, what are you? Some punk who tried to go good and get elected but is really still just a punk?

Chicago, IL

#6 Oct 7, 2008
Wal-Mart CANNOT make you show your receipt. They can simply REQUEST it. I hope Mr Phelan sues the crap out of the security guard for assault and the store for false arrest.


#7 Oct 7, 2008
The State Police should have been called to put the Wal-Mart guard under arrest for assault, illegal detention, and kidnapping, and to take over the Forest Park police department for failure to enforce the law.

Round Lake, IL

#8 Oct 7, 2008
Walmart, Home Depot, wherever. If you've purchased the item, it is now your property as is the receipt they handed you. And how on earth does drawing a line on a receipt with a magic marker cut down on stealing?
Will M

United States

#10 Oct 7, 2008
Sounds like a pattern here: threaten an employee, get angry at the security guard, etc., etc. Sounds like someone has some anger management issues. Don't tailgate/cut this guy off in traffic. He'll be starring in another YouTube video soon!

Chicago, IL

#12 Oct 7, 2008
See the following article from the Washington Post re this:

Know your rights and assert yourselves folks.

Thornton, IL

#13 Oct 7, 2008
I always refuse politely - From somewhere else the following;

I politely say no. Sometimes they get a little upset but the trick is to stay calm.

The folks asking to search the bags are just doing their jobs as defined by their management so please be polite to the folks at the door.

If they escalate the issue by calling in the management you can escalate also. Ask for the police to be summoned with a search warrant. I have had to do this twice and they always backed down.

This reminds me of being asked for my home phone number and address for "their records". I always say no thank you for that too.

Chicago, IL

#14 Oct 7, 2008
And now this punk will be entitled to a payout of the Ghetto Lottery, courtesy of Wal-Mart (shoppers).
Mark Winshel

Milpitas, CA

#15 Oct 7, 2008
If I had been the security guard and Phelan had then merely showed me some proof that he was a Cook County politician, I would have immediately stopped challenging him in any way, AND IN FACT THEN ASSUMED THAT I MYSELF MUST HAVE BEEN IN THE WRONG TO ASK HIM FOR THE RECEIPT, since I am well aware that no Cook County politician would ever do anything sleazy, illegal, or unethical.

“This won't hurt a bit!”

Since: Aug 08


#16 Oct 7, 2008
This B.S. of searching people and "requesting" to see receipts is unconstitutional. Unless they see you stealing something, they have no right to search you, or look in your bags. Because they can't keep criminals in jail, we are ALL treated like criminals. Everything Wal-mart sells is made in China, so why would anyone who is halfway intelligent want to steal anything from there in the first place?

“This won't hurt a bit!”

Since: Aug 08


#17 Oct 7, 2008
Chicagoan wrote:
See the following article from the Washington Post re this:
Know your rights and assert yourselves folks.
Thank you for the link. Very informative, and as I suspected. They do NOT have the right to search your bag or to see your receipt.
Mr Miyagi

La Grange, IL

#18 Oct 7, 2008
Tough issue, to ask to show receipt. Easy issue, to not act like ass when asked, especially when in position of public trust.
Rufus McDonald

Chicago, IL

#19 Oct 7, 2008
If it's a young punk guard, I kick him in the balls and continue on.

If it's pops or granny, I simply ignore them.
Jack Sparow

El Dorado Hills, CA

#20 Oct 7, 2008
What is in the water in Berwyn?

These aldermen and mayor cannot agree on anything and are highly dysfunctional. They all have ethical lapses and their judgment is non-existent.

The citizens of Berwyn deserve better.

Throw out this bunch and start again. Don't be like Cicero where they have become the poster child for corrupt, inept, nepotism-filled, taxing and borrowing sick joke.

Chicago, IL

#21 Oct 7, 2008
That show the receipt thing at the door is a waste of time. The Noble Prize winner at the door has no clue what you just purchased or even how many items are in your bag.

Chicago, IL

#22 Oct 7, 2008
I know the Forest Park Wal-Mart. It's one of the easiest stores to shoplift. That reminds me, I need a few things.

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