“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#61 Mar 28, 2013
RACE wrote:
You're right we dont have the same definition.
To me, when you get sponsors to pay for advertising, then whatever it is, is being glorified (commercialized). When that happens then some people will try to emulate that behavior (yes, even hoarding). Its called being a copy cat, and it is done with every show, and the main reason sponsors pay to advertise
James Dean, looking cool with a smoke?
The Fonz
NASCAR
The only reason they pay is because people watch, and some of those watching want to emulate what they see, and if they dont see the full spectrum of what it means to be preggers, but only see the showers, shopping, cute clothes etc, then they are glorifying what pregnancy actually is. Do they show Morning sickness, peeing every 30 minutes, the hormonal changes, stretch marks, weight gain? Yanno all the crappy stuff that happens.
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Just admit you misused the word "glorified."

Toj

“Equality”

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#62 Mar 28, 2013
RACE wrote:
What did I say that was wrong
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I capitalized what I disagree with.

"IF THAT HAPPENED, WE WOULD NOT NEED FREE CONDOMS OR SEX ED TO BEGIN WITH. Gee, what a concept."

I don't disagree with the concept in thinking parents should thoroughly educate their children but they won't. Or can't. There's is so much wrong information out there -- for instance about STDs. I believe some parents would not be comfortable talking to their children about sex and the human body to the extent that schools are able to offer the information.

Can't you almost see some kids rolling their eyes at their parents, others would ignore them but there would be the ones with good relationships who would listen.

I really believe if both parents and the school could educate them, they would have better and more full knowledge of the subject.
Kuuipo

Monterey, CA

#63 Mar 28, 2013
Toj wrote:
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I agree. That's where maturity plays. I do not think a normal HS person would be ready for it.
What are you saying in response to my post? I agree that people need to learn to talk to their children and teens. I believe they listen and WATCH more than most parents realize.
I was agreeing with you that sex is not necessarily wrong but also stating that there are wrong reasons to have sex. I think teens are under a lot of peer pressure to do the deed before they are emotionally mature enough to handle the consequences.

Toj

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#64 Mar 28, 2013
Kuuipo wrote:
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I was agreeing with you that sex is not necessarily wrong but also stating that there are wrong reasons to have sex. I think teens are under a lot of peer pressure to do the deed before they are emotionally mature enough to handle the consequences.
Absolutely.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

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#65 Mar 28, 2013
Your amazed? really? Well simple pleasures for simple minds and all that. Tell us sam, what draws you to watch such a riveting documentary? does it broaden you view of the world.

Oh, and if you dont want me to post about a show I have never watched, then I kindly ask you to refrain from comments on gun control until you actually own a weapon!


Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Glorification? Really? I am amazed at your willingness to comment on something you know nothing about. If you'd ever actually watched the show, you'd know there is no "glorification" whatsoever.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

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#66 Mar 28, 2013
I dont care what you disagree with, tell me what I said was wrong! Do we really have to do this in baby steps for you?
Toj wrote:
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I capitalized what I disagree with.
"IF THAT HAPPENED, WE WOULD NOT NEED FREE CONDOMS OR SEX ED TO BEGIN WITH. Gee, what a concept."
I don't disagree with the concept in thinking parents should thoroughly educate their children but they won't. Or can't. There's is so much wrong information out there -- for instance about STDs. I believe some parents would not be comfortable talking to their children about sex and the human body to the extent that schools are able to offer the information.
Can't you almost see some kids rolling their eyes at their parents, others would ignore them but there would be the ones with good relationships who would listen.
I really believe if both parents and the school could educate them, they would have better and more full knowledge of the subject.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#67 Mar 28, 2013
Just admit that some words have different connotations for different people. thats why its ok for blacks to use a word that I am frowned upon for using.
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Just admit you misused the word "glorified."

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#68 Mar 28, 2013
RACE wrote:
Just admit that some words have different connotations for different people. thats why its ok for blacks to use a word that I am frowned upon for using.
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Then you should also look up the definition of "connotation." Glorification means what it means. It does not mean what you want it to mean because you misused it, then want to incorrectly hide behind "connotation."

Boy, and not being able to use the n-word is really sticking in your craw, isn't it? You had quite the episode about that a month or two ago as I recall. Funny what some people get stuck on.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#69 Mar 28, 2013
RACE wrote:
Your amazed? really? Well simple pleasures for simple minds and all that. Tell us sam, what draws you to watch such a riveting documentary? does it broaden you view of the world.
Oh, and if you dont want me to post about a show I have never watched, then I kindly ask you to refrain from comments on gun control until you actually own a weapon!
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I don't watch it regularly, but I did watch one episode and saw that it clearly did not "glorify" being a teen mother.

Yes clearly one has to own a gun to understand what they do, their impact, etc. So you in turn will never render an opinion on abortion, women's birth control, or pleasing a woman, all areas in which you have no personal experience?

“...,to wit”

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#70 Mar 28, 2013
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Then you should also look up the definition of "connotation." Glorification means what it means. It does not mean what you want it to mean because you misused it, then want to incorrectly hide behind "connotation."
Boy, and not being able to use the n-word is really sticking in your craw, isn't it? You had quite the episode about that a month or two ago as I recall. Funny what some people get stuck on.
Language, except possibly French, is fluid and changing. Words have connotations and direct meanings but those change easily.Things change more quickly now that communication is faster and more pervasive Case in point No 1 going viral. Case in pointNo 2: gay. There's a word that has developed connotations and now a direct meaning that did not exist in 1965 and was coming out of its chryssalis in the early 70's. Most slang falls into that category. There is no reason a word like glorify has to be kept to a strict dictionary definition.

If he had used a word that was totally inapt you'd have a point. That show heimlich's teen pregnancy would be a misuse of the word.

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#71 Mar 28, 2013
sam wants to be stuck on semantics, its all she has to bash me with.
Pathetic really.

PEllen wrote:
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Language, except possibly French, is fluid and changing. Words have connotations and direct meanings but those change easily.Things change more quickly now that communication is faster and more pervasive Case in point No 1 going viral. Case in pointNo 2: gay. There's a word that has developed connotations and now a direct meaning that did not exist in 1965 and was coming out of its chryssalis in the early 70's. Most slang falls into that category. There is no reason a word like glorify has to be kept to a strict dictionary definition.
If he had used a word that was totally inapt you'd have a point. That show heimlich's teen pregnancy would be a misuse of the word.

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#72 Mar 28, 2013
Nice try for deflection, but the fact is I gave a perfectly valid example of what I meant. Just because you cant admit when you have been bested does not mean that it did not happen.

Next?
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Then you should also look up the definition of "connotation." Glorification means what it means. It does not mean what you want it to mean because you misused it, then want to incorrectly hide behind "connotation."
Boy, and not being able to use the n-word is really sticking in your craw, isn't it? You had quite the episode about that a month or two ago as I recall. Funny what some people get stuck on.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#73 Mar 28, 2013
Well sam, were both in that boat, so you keep your yap shut and I will also.


deal?

Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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So you in turn will never render an opinion on abortion, women's birth control, or pleasing a woman, all areas in which you have no personal experience?

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#74 Mar 28, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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Language, except possibly French, is fluid and changing. Words have connotations and direct meanings but those change easily.Things change more quickly now that communication is faster and more pervasive Case in point No 1 going viral. Case in pointNo 2: gay. There's a word that has developed connotations and now a direct meaning that did not exist in 1965 and was coming out of its chryssalis in the early 70's. Most slang falls into that category. There is no reason a word like glorify has to be kept to a strict dictionary definition.
If he had used a word that was totally inapt you'd have a point. That show heimlich's teen pregnancy would be a misuse of the word.
I am sorry, but that doesn't hold water. "Glorification" is not slang. It has a standard, recogized meaning, and Race's "connotation interpretation" was not close. There are 50 better words to describe what he was trying to say. There is a difference between something having multiple meanings, different connotations, contextual usage, etc. and the use of a word simply being incorrect.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#75 Mar 28, 2013
RACE wrote:
Nice try for deflection, but the fact is I gave a perfectly valid example of what I meant. Just because you cant admit when you have been bested does not mean that it did not happen.
Next?
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Perfectly invalid, you mean. The appropriateness of a word based on one's ethnicity has no relevance to the correctness of a word's usage as pertains to its definition.

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#76 Mar 28, 2013
Stupid, there is no correctness of a word based upon ones ethnicity. A word is a word as you have just spent the last half day of your life trying to point out.]
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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Perfectly invalid, you mean. The appropriateness of a word based on one's ethnicity has no relevance to the correctness of a word's usage as pertains to its definition.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

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Neda, stay with me!

#77 Mar 28, 2013
So,,, there were 50 better words that i could have chosen, but you are hung up about the one I did choose....
Hmmmm, kinda sounds to me like you knew what I meant, and since you could not refute that, you chose to focus upon one single word... Not the intent or spirit of my post, just upon one word...

Petty really. You so totally stink at debating sam, maybe you should quit. Maybe bring back thoren
Sam I Am GEAM wrote:
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I am sorry, but that doesn't hold water. "Glorification" is not slang. It has a standard, recogized meaning, and Race's "connotation interpretation" was not close. There are 50 better words to describe what he was trying to say. There is a difference between something having multiple meanings, different connotations, contextual usage, etc. and the use of a word simply being incorrect.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#78 Mar 29, 2013
RACE wrote:
Stupid, there is no correctness of a word based upon ones ethnicity. A word is a word as you have just spent the last half day of your life trying to point out.]
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Really? Reconcile that with this:

"Just admit that some words have different connotations for different people. thats why its ok for blacks to use a word that I am frowned upon for using."

And by all means, don't let trying to be consistent get in your way.

“FD&S is no way to be.”

Since: Feb 13

Chicago, IL

#79 Mar 29, 2013
RACE wrote:
So,,, there were 50 better words that i could have chosen, but you are hung up about the one I did choose....
Hmmmm, kinda sounds to me like you knew what I meant, and since you could not refute that, you chose to focus upon one single word... Not the intent or spirit of my post, just upon one word...
Petty really. You so totally stink at debating sam, maybe you should quit. Maybe bring back thoren
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Soooo, kind of like your "your/you're" retardedness, you're wrong but you don't care so it doesn't matter?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

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#80 Mar 29, 2013
Sam, you're an ass. One of the largest on the inet, in fact you're probably the largest. You're also very stupid, and you're not pleasant to talk to.

I cant compete with your stupidity, so I will stop trying to. I really don't enjoy debating you, I don't enjoy you at all.

Have a nice day.

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