United Airlines' workforce to take flight in operations center'...

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United Airlines is expected to announce as early as Thursday that it is moving its giant operations center and 2,800 employees from the northwest suburbs to downtown Chicago, sources tell the Tribune.

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#145
Aug 5, 2009
 
I guess its payback time to Major Jognson and his anti OHare crusade!
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#146
Aug 5, 2009
 
WOW, SOMEONE (Phil A) ACTUALLY GETS IT!!!!!!!!!!
Phil A wrote:
How do you get rid of alot of employees without paying severance pay? Move downtown to Willis Tower.
Long and expensive commute will get
alot of people to quit.
Are there any professional reporters left in this country ?
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#147
Aug 5, 2009
 
Sorry, spelling correction ...

I guess that is payback time to Major Craig Johnson and his anti-O'Hare crusade!
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#149
Aug 5, 2009
 
United in the Big Willy- sweet!
Deal With The Devil

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#150
Aug 5, 2009
 
If they want to do business in Chicago - let 'em pay full freight.
They don't discount airline tickets for taxpayers, why should taxpayers discount their business operational costs? Let 'em move to Dallas, oh yeah - American. Let 'em move to Atlanta, oh yeah, Delta. Let 'em move to someplace at the people's expense there, but - not here.
This idea of public/taxpayer's monies for private businesses is simply out of control.
Let United pay extra to have thier employees bring a brief case onto the CTA. Let United pay extra to have their employees walking on city sidewalks and driving on city streets {depreciation}. Let United pay for what they consume. You know, no free sodas or soft-drinks. If you want a head-set - you'll have to pay. You want some leg-room for your employees - pay up!
To hell with United. Let 'em take their operations someplace else - like hell. I understand the Devil's trading office-space for souls these days.
And what happens when United re-enters bankruptcy? They'll just renegotiate the terms of their lease and / or go to some other sucker city where their taxpayers will get fleeced.
Deal with the Devil {airlines} and you're likely to get burned.
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#151
Aug 5, 2009
 
Mick wrote:
City of Chicago and United Airlines deserve each other. Incomptetent, deceptive, and downright crooked.
How dare you! Glenn Tilton, may he live 1000 years.
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#152
Aug 5, 2009
 
Good to hear from you again 'Mikea'. One of the few on this board who see this move for what it is. Cudos to you..........
mikea wrote:
United is the worst of all the airlines. they treat not only their employees like garbage, but customers too. The idea of moving a 24 hour operation dowtown when the majority of their workers live in the NW suburbs is horrible and inconsiderate of their employess. Then to get 25,000,000 in TIF money to move. They United just wants to have the longtime employees quit to hire lower priced workers. In response to those who say drive. Ok what about the high cost of parking 18.00 a day to go to work. I agree with the United employee who said what about having to work overtime and then commute on a train only to have to turn around a few hurs later and go back.. Also those living in the far burbs the express trains only run for those 7-6 workers not the split or graveyard shift workers. Find another job in this economy is not a option, the recession is not over just the Obama' administration sugarcoating the reality that things are not much better and their stimulus packages are not working. United needs to go under and let American, Delta and Southwest take over, United is like a cancer to its employees and customers.
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#153
Aug 5, 2009
 
Now the Sears/Willis Tower really will be a major target by terrorists. I'd hate to work there!
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#154
Aug 5, 2009
 
brett wrote:
Why would anyone want to work in the BLDG?
You said Brett

That building is one of the worst office spaces in the Chicagoland Area.
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Lookout here it comes wrote:
Good to hear from you again 'Mikea'. One of the few on this board who see this move for what it is. Cudos to you..........
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Well all the sad sacks who live in the NW Suburbs should start getting used to this. The NW Suburbs are a terrible place to both live and work.

You'll all die in your cars
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#156
Aug 5, 2009
 
brett wrote:
Why would anyone want to work in the BLDG?
Free access to the SkyDeck. It's like the worlds tallest control tower.
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#157
Aug 5, 2009
 
UAL OCC EMPLOYEE wrote:
Poll the employees?
IF we move to Sears tower as I will always call it, everyone needs to remember that after the move they will at least still have a job..
So set the alarm clock an extra 20-30 mins early and thank god on your way out that at the end of the week, you still get a paycheck..
hear hear!
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#158
Aug 5, 2009
 
Look, its the WILLIS TOWER now. Sears is done brutha.
Get over it chi-town!!!!!!
GO DODGERS!
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Aug 5, 2009
 
UAL OCC EMPLOYEE wrote:
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Very simple, Find another Job. You never heard people complaining when they had to commute all the way to HDQ from south Chicago or east Illinois..
We all know that this is not the best times to try and find another Job so like I said before, Set your alarm clock 20-30 mins earlier and thank god on the way out you still get a paycheck at the end of the week.
And as for no trains running after our shifts end at 2300? Drive to city, park, blue line the rest of the way and you still have a job!
Well said and you speak for quite a few of us who've commuted a long time. Adjust, or quit. Quite simple. My job with UA was once downtown and wa eliminated. I had to find another one and chose to stay with the company and commute. No one is being forced to do anything.
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#160
Aug 5, 2009
 
mikea wrote:
United just wants to have the longtime employees quit to hire lower priced workers.
Yep. In the '93 furlough, four out of five employees laid off in my division were at or above the max for their salary grade, and most were over forty.

United was smart, and tossed just enough younger workers under the bus in '93 to avoid an EEOC age discrimination charge.
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For those of you who want to blame Glenn Tilton, look again. This is Joseph Kolshaks' doing. After coming to UAL from Delta he decided that ALL operations should be centrally located (like Delta) and started moving employees from San Francisco, Indianapolis, and Denver (thus the need for more office space). This is his way of getting the EXPERIENCED employees (and the ones with a plethora of company knowledge) to leave UAL and he can hire younger workers at a lower salary and less benefits. Also, according to an article in the Sun Times, it said that the UAL employee will spend an average of $6,700 a year at downtown businesses. Does the city not realize how little a UAL employee makes? Unless you are an executive of course. For some employees who choose to relocate from a city where the cost of living is more affordable and property taxes are reasonable, they will not get a salary increase and will be moving to a city that has a higher cost of living. Where would they get $6,700 extra dollars? Moving downtown would most certainly not be an option. Again, a decision is being made that does not take into consideration the employee. UAL does not care about the employee.
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#162
Aug 6, 2009
 
What I'm hearing now is that it is only the true Operations Center roles (flight controllers, dispatchers, meteorologists, etc.) that are going to Sears Tower. The rest of what is now OPC (formerly World Headquarters; Finance, HR, IT, Marketing, etc.) is going to the United Bldg at 77 W. Wacker. Microsoft is vacating the premises, and that's going to give space to the remaining HQ roles that didn't move to W. Wacker in 2006.
New subject: What is with you myopic people who think that "the best talent" can only be found in the city? You think that the burbs don't have great schools, associations, cultural opportunities? Give me a break. It used to be that the city had an edge in cultural diversity, but even this isn't true anymore. It's just that in the city, "culture" is mostly segregated into identifiable neighborhoods (Greek Town, Chinatown, etc.) which makes it easier for city yuppies to find.
BTW, you think United wants to hire for cultural diversity? I worked there for 8 years, and I can tell you that United's headquarters operations are about as lily-white as can be. The only brown people United actively recruits (apart from Housekeeping staff) are Indians, mostly for IT, and that in itself is a stereotype. As far as young people go? United tries to hire them, but everything about the company's business systems and processes is so old and/or undocumented that they tend not to stay.
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#163
Aug 6, 2009
 
Right on 'Not a Bears Fan'!!!! At least you and 'Mikea' actually see the true meaning of all these (this) move.
Not a Bears Fan wrote:
For those of you who want to blame Glenn Tilton, look again. This is Joseph Kolshaks' doing. After coming to UAL from Delta he decided that ALL operations should be centrally located (like Delta) and started moving employees from San Francisco, Indianapolis, and Denver (thus the need for more office space). This is his way of getting the EXPERIENCED employees (and the ones with a plethora of company knowledge) to leave UAL and he can hire younger workers at a lower salary and less benefits. Also, according to an article in the Sun Times, it said that the UAL employee will spend an average of $6,700 a year at downtown businesses. Does the city not realize how little a UAL employee makes? Unless you are an executive of course. For some employees who choose to relocate from a city where the cost of living is more affordable and property taxes are reasonable, they will not get a salary increase and will be moving to a city that has a higher cost of living. Where would they get $6,700 extra dollars? Moving downtown would most certainly not be an option. Again, a decision is being made that does not take into consideration the employee. UAL does not care about the employee.

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Stephen M wrote:
New subject: What is with you myopic people who think that "the best talent" can only be found in the city? You think that the burbs don't have great schools, associations, cultural opportunities? Give me a break. It used to be that the city had an edge in cultural diversity, but even this isn't true anymore. It's just that in the city, "culture" is mostly segregated into identifiable neighborhoods (Greek Town, Chinatown, etc.) which makes it easier for city yuppies to find.
BTW, you think United wants to hire for cultural diversity? I worked there for 8 years, and I can tell you that United's headquarters operations are about as lily-white as can be. The only brown people United actively recruits (apart from Housekeeping staff) are Indians, mostly for IT, and that in itself is a stereotype. As far as young people go? United tries to hire them, but everything about the company's business systems and processes is so old and/or undocumented that they tend not to stay.
It has nothing to do with diversity or city/suburb schooling, it has to do with being located where the greatest number of talented people who would think working for a certain company like United makes senses.

No one in the South Loop, Homewood or Frankfort is going to be in a rush to work at United when it is so far away and inaccessible. It makes absolutely no sense in working there when it takes two hours to get there.

However if the company is centrally located in the Loop business district it is now accessible by mass transit and all major roads. That plays a major factor in many peoples decisions on where they want to work, especially for young people.
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#165
Aug 6, 2009
 
Its the WILLIS TOWER. Live with it brutha

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