Jesus in China: Christianity's rapid rise

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Rev. Jin Mingri peered out from the pulpit and delivered an unusual appeal: "Please leave," the 39-year-old pastor commanded his followers, who were packed, standing-room-only on a Sunday afternoon, into a ...
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and by the way, i favor peace.
and i also respect christians teaching about love for other people's souls.
and about romantic love ( if that is what some people like ), then i also respect romantic love.
i personally do not know if there is a soul or not but i respect christians teaching about love for other people's souls.

and about romantic love ( if that is what some people like ), then i also respect romantic love.
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youtube.com/watch...
Jesus to who? China its not so rapid,,,by what I been reading,,christianity is just a small % percent of China religon
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Jesus to who? China its not so rapid,,,by what I been reading,,christianity is just a small % percent of China religon
http://youtube.com/watch...

Choose the one in Chinese title, posted 4 years ago with 929,688 viewers up to now.

Good luck.

Good viewing.

May God bless you.
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youtube.com/watch... I like China and its many wonders that it makes but there is no Jesus or God they are bones buried in ground and I dont worship old bones buried in the ground of Animals or People,no life living persons there.
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dognes wrote:
youtube.com/watch?v=gbFa91vDc2 4 I like China and its many wonders that it makes but there is no Jesus or God they are bones buried in ground and I dont worship old bones buried in the ground of Animals or People,no life living persons there.
The God we, Christians in the USA or the Christians in China, worship is the God of Abraham, the God of the Jews, the God of the Islam, the God whom we attribute as the one God who Created the whole Universe and the Earth we live in and which includes all mankind, all the creatures in the animal kingdom and all the plants on earth, our solar system, and all other stars and their systems, all the star in the Milky Way. the Black Hole, etc. etc. If a god who is not the Creator of the Unverse, then that god is not the god whom we worship. The God we worship has to be the Creator of the Universe.

No one on earth can ever be able to see God because He is greater than all that was created by Him. Our human eyes are only capable to see some of His creation and as our scientifical knowledge grows we will be able to see more of His creation.

God is the Creator of the Universe, He therefore is everywhere in the Universe.

Please do not worship old bones buried in the ground. Join all believers in the Creator of the Universe in the search for Him.

Call on someone who lives near you to help you in the search: in a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue or a Muslim mosque. There are lots of people who can help you.

Congratulation. You have taken the first step in the long journey for the search for the Creator of the Universe.
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Not long ago I had a lengthy conversation with a friend of mine who's a practicing Rabbi and Kabbalist.

The topic of conversation had to do with the Jewish perspective of Abrahamic based religions and their role in society...

Well...to my surprise, the Rabbi gave me new insight into the Jewish POV of the historical origins of Christianity and Islam and their purpose within the Jewish community at the time.

He explained to me that Jesus and Mohammed were actually highly trained operatives who were groomed by the Jewish Elders to generate a new movement for the purpose of global domination.

This plan was conceived sometime around 900 BCE, the Jews believed themselves to be the rightful caretakers of the world, and so they took the necessary steps to make certain that they would take control.

This was one of the Zionists hidden agendas.

Jesus acted in a capacity similar to what a "sleeper agent" does nowadays. His role was to bring the tenets of Judaism to all nations, but since only Jews recognize themselves as the chosen people of god...

Jesus introduced a "new" philosophy and eventually became the Messiah of the world for the sole purpose of implementing a new religion for the Goyim (Non-Jew) to follow, and as it turned out through his martyrdom.

As the Zionist's power was expanding, their influence was to spread towards foreign peoples and land. This is how Islam was "invented"...under the guidance of the Jewish Elders, Mohammed was to introduce during his time a new religion for the masses which had its roots in the Judeo-Christian faiths.

Today we find Christianity and Islam has spread throughout the globe.

If this information is correct... I am impressed at how brilliant this strategy of psychological warfare has successfully played out and affected society as a whole. To have the world follow your god, follow your history and culture, sing about your country...in this case, Israel, but never will the Goy be recognized as the chosen few.

It's a great way to control the masses through advanced international relations - lol

On a side note...apparently Moses played a similar role as an agent operating within the house of Pharaoh. Throughout history and to this day, Zionist Agents have been strategically placed in influential positions in countries around the globe.

THE JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF THE ONE TRUE GOD, THEY ARE OUR MASTERS, SHOW THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE AND YOU WILL BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY
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Human Intelligence or spycraft was not common knowledge among the average Jew, and yes ... the whole point of Jesus & Mohammed's role was to build them up into charismatic leaders who has brought forth the "Good News" & the "Light of Islam" Whatever! History speaks for itself.

I wonder what kind of world we would be living in today had the Bible or Qu'ran NOT had the influence it did?

By today's standards religious entities like Christian Churches, Muslim denominations, Buddhist temples or the "controversial" Zionist movement could be compared to a powerful influential corporation which develops a product or brand and then markets it successfully around the globe. I believe the same was done with the CHRISTIAN BRAND or the MUSLIM BRAND. Of course religion is a bit more personal than say Coca-Cola or McDonald's but essentially it's the same principle.
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The God we, Christians in the USA or the Christians in China, worship is the God of Abraham, the God of the Jews, the God of the Islam, the God whom we attribute as the one God who Created the whole Universe and the Earth we live in and which includes all mankind, all the creatures in the animal kingdom and all the plants on earth, our solar system, and all other stars and their systems, all the star in the Milky Way. the Black Hole, etc. etc. If a god who is not the Creator of the Unverse, then that god is not the god whom we worship. The God we worship has to be the Creator of the Universe.
No one on earth can ever be able to see God because He is greater than all that was created by Him. Our human eyes are only capable to see some of His creation and as our scientifical knowledge grows we will be able to see more of His creation.
God is the Creator of the Universe, He therefore is everywhere in the Universe.
Please do not worship old bones buried in the ground. Join all believers in the Creator of the Universe in the search for Him.
Call on someone who lives near you to help you in the search: in a Christian church or a Jewish synagogue or a Muslim mosque. There are lots of people who can help you.
Congratulation. You have taken the first step in the long journey for the search for the Creator of the Universe.
The god you worship raped an extremely frigid woman called Mary who despite being married for years, was somehow still a virgin.
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The god you worship raped an extremely frigid woman called Mary who despite being married for years, was somehow still a virgin.
The God, Christians, Jews and Muslim worship is the Creator of the Universe which includes the creation of your forefathers to the trillion generations ago. If the god you refer is NOT the creator of your forefathers to the trillions generations ago, he is NOT whom we worship.

Rape is not consensual.
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The God, Christians, Jews and Muslim worship is the Creator of the Universe which includes the creation of your forefathers to the trillion generations ago. If the god you refer is NOT the creator of your forefathers to the trillions generations ago, he is NOT whom we worship.
Rape is not consensual.
So Mary consented to having sex with your god despite her aleardy being married and never once having consented to having sex with her own husband?

So it's just extra marital incest then right? Your beliefs say god and jesus are the same guy. That means he's a product of having sex with his own mother.
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So Mary consented to having sex with your god despite her aleardy being married and never once having consented to having sex with her own husband?
So it's just extra marital incest then right? Your beliefs say god and jesus are the same guy. That means he's a product of having sex with his own mother.
I repeat that God is the Creator of the Universe which includes your forefathers to the trillion years ago. He is also the Creator of the forefathers of all the Dalai Lamas to the trillion years ago.

Yes, Jesus was conceived in the body of Mary. It was the decision of the Creator of your forefathers to the trillion years ago. The will of our creator is our will. In our daily prayer we repeatedly say,'Thy Will Be Done' since He is the Creator and we, including you, are His creatures.

We do not see the issue as when Lamas have sex with their younger monks. The Lamas are creatures like us. They should live by the law of God and not by the law of their own creation. When a Lama have forced sex with a young monk, it is called a peophile monk. When a Lama have sex with a female monk, it is called incest or rape.

The conception of Jesus in the body of Mary is not an extra marital incest, as many exiled Tibetan monks in the UK would like to twist the logic and defame Christian's the Holy Scriptures in order to re-invent a logical Lamaism.

God is in three persons - God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Holy Trinity has no relation with sex. It is simply the Will of God that He is in three persons.

If you are truly in search of the Truth, check with a theologian near you. There are many Anglican pastors in your area. They can explain to you the misteries of our faith. If you are an exiled Tibetan monk, taking shelter and living on the alms provided to you out of Christian charity, please do not bite the hands that feed you.

Talk to a theologian near you in the UK, whoever you are.
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Yes, that's how you got brainwashed.
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Yes, that's how you got brainwashed.
Yes, good try to brainwash for your DaLai Lama. But it wouldn't work. At least be thankful for the alms you receive from Christian charity. Don't bite the hands that feed you.
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NWO wrote:
Not long ago I had a lengthy conversation with a friend of mine who's a practicing Rabbi and Kabbalist.
The topic of conversation had to do with the Jewish perspective of Abrahamic based religions and their role in society...
Well...to my surprise, the Rabbi gave me new insight into the Jewish POV of the historical origins of Christianity and Islam and their purpose within the Jewish community at the time.
He explained to me that Jesus and Mohammed were actually highly trained operatives who were groomed by the Jewish Elders to generate a new movement for the purpose of global domination.
This plan was conceived sometime around 900 BCE, the Jews believed themselves to be the rightful caretakers of the world, and so they took the necessary steps to make certain that they would take control.
This was one of the Zionists hidden agendas.
Jesus acted in a capacity similar to what a "sleeper agent" does nowadays. His role was to bring the tenets of Judaism to all nations, but since only Jews recognize themselves as the chosen people of god...
Jesus introduced a "new" philosophy and eventually became the Messiah of the world for the sole purpose of implementing a new religion for the Goyim (Non-Jew) to follow, and as it turned out through his martyrdom.
As the Zionist's power was expanding, their influence was to spread towards foreign peoples and land. This is how Islam was "invented"...under the guidance of the Jewish Elders, Mohammed was to introduce during his time a new religion for the masses which had its roots in the Judeo-Christian faiths.
Today we find Christianity and Islam has spread throughout the globe.
If this information is correct... I am impressed at how brilliant this strategy of psychological warfare has successfully played out and affected society as a whole. To have the world follow your god, follow your history and culture, sing about your country...in this case, Israel, but never will the Goy be recognized as the chosen few.
It's a great way to control the masses through advanced international relations - lol
On a side note...apparently Moses played a similar role as an agent operating within the house of Pharaoh. Throughout history and to this day, Zionist Agents have been strategically placed in influential positions in countries around the globe.
THE JEWS ARE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF THE ONE TRUE GOD, THEY ARE OUR MASTERS, SHOW THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE AND YOU WILL BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY
Isiah lived 800 years before Jesus was born.Read Isiah 53. Seems to describe Jesus coming way ahead of any plot
I beleive the Jews are the chosen people but after 3000 years god decided it was impossiable for man to follow laws and came up with the final sacrifice for sin and the continual breaking of laws by man.Bless the jews whose son david brought forth Jesus.

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Isiah lived 800 years before Jesus was born.Read Isiah 53. Seems to describe Jesus coming way ahead of any plot
I beleive the Jews are the chosen people but after 3000 years god decided it was impossiable for man to follow laws and came up with the final sacrifice for sin and the continual breaking of laws by man.Bless the jews whose son david brought forth Jesus.
Nope, I read Isaiah 53 and there's nothing in there that says Jesus is coming.

Sorry.

I guess quality prophecy was something the Bible lacked.
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Nope, I read Isaiah 53 and there's nothing in there that says Jesus is coming.
Sorry.
I guess quality prophecy was something the Bible lacked.
I suppose a guide book would be easier and your frustration is shared by many.The bible says seek and ye shall find.
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The letters "INRI" appear above the head of the crucified Jesus.
They stand for "I'm Not Returning Immediately"
I dont doubt you could not see anything in Isiah 53 as it seems youve made up your mind.Do you beleive in something other than Jesus?
actually the isiah 53 comment was directed at NWO.

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I suppose a guide book would be easier and your frustration is shared by many.The bible says seek and ye shall find.
I guess there are too many contradictions in the Bible for me.

I guess its safe to say that contradictions also abound in the other holy books that men claim were written/inspired by the creator of our universe.

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I dont doubt you could not see anything in Isiah 53 as it seems youve made up your mind.Do you beleive in something other than Jesus?
actually the isiah 53 comment was directed at NWO.
I guess there's a chance that Jesus existed in very much the same was as Mohammed and Buddha probably did as well.

But that's as far as it goes for me because I don't believe in any of the magic that's attributed to these people.

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Dec 4, 2012
 
There's a very well known shot taken by the Hubble Telescope. I'm sure you've heard of it; it's known as "The Ultra Deep Field" and it represents both our longest look out into the cosmos, as well as our furthest look back in time. This awesome shot of a small piece of the night sky (about the size of a postage stamp) reveals over 1500 galaxies at varying stages of evolution as they whirl and spin in the vastness of space.

Science, not religion, has revealed this wonder of our natural universe to us, and speaking for myself, when I look at this awesome sight, I feel very small and humble indeed. I need no god to inspire such wonder.

Was it all created by a supreme being? I very much doubt it.

However, I can accept the possibility that I could be wrong and maybe there is an omnipotent being who created everything.

If there is such a being then I very much doubt he/she/it will be defined by any man-made religion that purports to claim sole ownership of said cosmic mega-being supreme being for their religion alone.

Any supreme being is going to be far beyond the limits and petty jealousies and uneasy vanities that men of faith will often claim he possesses.

Perhaps the supreme being (if there is one) will favour the atheists and agnostics for not labelling him as theirs or for carrying out all sorts of deeds in his name.

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